xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#16112 Dec 20, 2012
Che Reagan Christ wrote:
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Ok. Right after you show me the article about the last guy that killed 20 school kids with his bike.
The most students killed in a school happened in the 1930's. The guy used dynamite.
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#16113 Dec 20, 2012
Cousin DuPrees Cousin wrote:
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You know what happens when weapons are fired inside an aircraft at 30,000 Ft., right?
I don't, but if you do, you better tell the pilots since some of them are armed today.
xxxrayted

Cleveland, OH

#16114 Dec 20, 2012
Che Reagan Christ wrote:
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You aren't paying attention. XXX said it was irresonsible for a parent to teach a kid with mental illness how to use a gun. My point is, since you teach your kids how to shoot at 12, you don't know whether you are teaching a kid with mental illness how to shoot or not. Dig it?
Since you like isolated stories:

http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/nation/st...
Che Reagan Christ

Lodi, OH

#16115 Dec 20, 2012
xxxrayted wrote:
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The most students killed in a school happened in the 1930's. The guy used dynamite.
So?
Che Reagan Christ

Lodi, OH

#16116 Dec 20, 2012
xxxrayted wrote:
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Since you like isolated stories:
http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/nation/st...
That may be the funniest post ever. All of a sudden, XXX, the King of the Anecdote, accuses someone else of "liking isolated stories." Oh my!

I guess I made my point, even if you missed it. Remember yesterday when I wrote,
Che Reagan Christ wrote:
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And my contribution to the discussion is that anecdote and Google searches are a completely unscientific approach at trying to answer that question and are essentially worthless. She is the only person who has offered an answer based on scientific method.
?

Since: Feb 12

Location hidden

#16117 Dec 20, 2012
Hugh Victor Thompson III wrote:
<quoted text>Yes, and as long as a window isn't shot all the way out, there won't be explosive decompression. A bullet hole in the metal of the fuselage or in a window is too small to produce it.
And if Semi Automatics are used by several or a bunch of dumbasses at the same time George?
I wouldn't want to be in that plane. Pressurizes cabin, lots of holes, or worse one big one sucking people out.
Duke for Mayor

Akron, OH

#16118 Dec 20, 2012
xxxrayted wrote:
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The most students killed in a school happened in the 1930's. The guy used dynamite.
Might wanna look into the fire in Collinwood.

woof

Since: Feb 12

Location hidden

#16119 Dec 20, 2012
xxxrayted wrote:
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I don't, but if you do, you better tell the pilots since some of them are armed today.
Pressurized cabin. Gunshots equal holes, weakening of the fuselage. Loss of Cabin Pressure. Not sure if Pilots are armed but Sky Marshalls are. They are really well trained.

Since: Feb 12

Location hidden

#16120 Dec 20, 2012
xxxrayted wrote:
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The most students killed in a school happened in the 1930's. The guy used dynamite.
How many? Where and why?

“Larchmont's Leading Citizen”

Since: Dec 12

Hilliard, OH

#16121 Dec 20, 2012
Cousin DuPrees Cousin wrote:
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And if Semi Automatics are used by several or a bunch of dumbasses at the same time George?
I wouldn't want to be in that plane. Pressurizes cabin, lots of holes, or worse one big one sucking people out.
Or crashing into the Mall of America, Ohio Stadium or Disney World. Deliberately. On a Saturday.
BTW, "lots of holes" the size of bullets will not explosively decompress an aircraft. The pressurization system can compensate in that case. If an entire window goes, that's another story
You don't think the FAA and the aircraft manufacturers thought this through before allowing flight deck crews to carry?

Since: Feb 12

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#16122 Dec 20, 2012
Che Reagan Christ wrote:
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It was your guys' line of thinking. You guys were saying that a parent should never teach a child with mental health issues how to use a gun. I simply pointed out that you idiots, when you teach your 12 year olds how to shoot, don't know whether you are doing that or not.
I agree. 12 Year olds, whether Schizophrenic or not do not have the maturity and emotion control to handle free access to firearms.
I also will add that Males are not fully emotionally mature until much later than females. Males are more suceptible to peer pressure than females.
Gun training is like divorce. The person who goes through gun safety/training is not the same person who later in a fit of anger, grabs that weapon and kills someone, just as the person we divorce from is not the person we married or there would be no divorce.

“Larchmont's Leading Citizen”

Since: Dec 12

Hilliard, OH

#16123 Dec 20, 2012
Cousin DuPrees Cousin wrote:
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How many? Where and why?
Bath, Michigan, 1927:

The Bath School disaster is the name given to three bombings in Bath Township, Michigan, on May 18, 1927, which killed 38 elementary school children, two teachers, and four other adults; at least 58 people were injured.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bath_School_disa...

“Larchmont's Leading Citizen”

Since: Dec 12

Hilliard, OH

#16124 Dec 20, 2012
Duke for Mayor wrote:
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Might wanna look into the fire in Collinwood.
woof
That wasn't deliberate.

“Larchmont's Leading Citizen”

Since: Dec 12

Hilliard, OH

#16125 Dec 20, 2012
Cousin DuPrees Cousin wrote:
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I agree. 12 Year olds, whether Schizophrenic or not do not have the maturity and emotion control to handle free access to firearms.
I also will add that Males are not fully emotionally mature until much later than females. Males are more suceptible to peer pressure than females.
Gun training is like divorce. The person who goes through gun safety/training is not the same person who later in a fit of anger, grabs that weapon and kills someone, just as the person we divorce from is not the person we married or there would be no divorce.
Where did I say "free access"? I started taking him to the range at 12. He's 16 1/2 now and has access to two firearms for emergency home defense.
Che Reagan Christ

Lodi, OH

#16126 Dec 20, 2012
Hugh Victor Thompson III wrote:
<quoted text>Where did I say "free access"? I started taking him to the range at 12. He's 16 1/2 now and has access to two firearms for emergency home defense.
Or if he gets really, really angry.
Duke for Mayor

Akron, OH

#16127 Dec 20, 2012
Hugh Victor Thompson III wrote:
<quoted text>That wasn't deliberate.
I didn't say it was.

woof

“Larchmont's Leading Citizen”

Since: Dec 12

Hilliard, OH

#16128 Dec 20, 2012
Che Reagan Christ wrote:
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Or if he gets really, really angry.
We have knives, too.
Sorry, Che...much to your chagrin, my kid is well adjusted and normal.

“Larchmont's Leading Citizen”

Since: Dec 12

Hilliard, OH

#16129 Dec 20, 2012
Duke for Mayor wrote:
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I didn't say it was.
woof
The discussion involved mass murder in schools, did it not?
Pops

Cincinnati, OH

#16130 Dec 20, 2012
Che Reagan Christ wrote:
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I didn't think you were capable of doing it, Pops. I will do it for you. Fred was blaming Australia's lack of similar mass assaults with firearms on what he called Australia's homogeneous society. When others pointed out to him that he was wrong, he changed his definition to say that it was because Australia didn't have the same number of "poor, uneducated,third worlders" as the US has. Based on that, I suggested to him he check to see how many "poor, uneducated, third worlders" had recently shot up a mall or a school. You then, until that time not a part of the dialogue, come with this,
<quoted text>
which is totally non-responsive to the discussion about the comparison of mass violence with guns between Australia and the US. If you think that your post somehow does further that conversation, I welcome your explanation. Frankly, I think you wrote it in your neverending quest to somehow get the better of me and didn't understand a word of the ongoing conversation.
So there is your explanation. Now call me a bunch of names and do exactly what you accuse me of doing. Classic wingnut.
You have proven once again that you don't understand. Thanx for the endorsement. There would be no pride in getting the better of a non-comprehending putz.
1st You didn't recognize a response when printed because of comprehension issues. 2nd, I am not trying to compete so there is No 'better or worse' score keeping on my part. 3rd, I would be wasting my time trying to explain to someone that twists & changes the wording/meaning of what others have said so that there is no longer any relevance. 4th. I don't remember accusing anyone by name of calling others a 'bunch of names' as you put it. Especially 'colorful' names. However, IF I had, I'm sure it applied. Lastly, you can be entertaining at times.

Since: Feb 12

Location hidden

#16131 Dec 20, 2012
xxxrayted wrote:
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I read he shot the locks out. Who knows this early in the game? In any event, when you can show me some kind of evidence that smaller clips will stop school shootings or even interrupt the shooter, then I'll say fine. What I see now are baby steps towards more control over our guns while at the same time solving nothing, and ignoring more important issues in school shootings like armed security guards or personnel, police siren on the roof of the building, how to improve our communications and treatment of the mentally ill. Easy access for parents with troubled children or even adults.
The Colorado shooter had body armor--armor not legal to own in America. If he could get his hands on that, what makes you think larger clips would not be readily available to those who want them?
Hark!! I agree with all you said except the High Capacity Clips not stopping the shooter. The shooter in AZ shooting of Gabrielle Giffords was attempting to insert a new clip when he was tackled and restrained, probably saving some lives. No, it was not a school shooting, but same logic applies in school shootings. Arming school personnel is not the answer, but all the other options you mentioned are a start and would likely save some lives and cut down on number of casualties.
I agree that persons intent on obtaining High Capacity clips will still get them, but we can make it more difficult and raise the penalties. The Assault Weapons ban that was allowed to expire under Bush had a 'Grandfather Clause' which stated that if a Gun Owner was given an assault weapon by a relative, had been in the family for some time etc., owner could legally keep the weapon. This Caviat was abused of course, since no proof was required.
Do you know that 40% of guns are not required to be registered. Some of Lanzas' mothers guns were purchased in New Jersey and were legal there but not in Connecticut, which tells us we need National Registration and a more thorough Database for tracking.
We need Federal all state Registration.

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