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GRANDPA NICOLAI

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#22
Nov 19, 2012
 
Here Is One wrote:
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Poor grumpy was proven wrong about the hostess workers
The fool says a 100k per year is peanuts
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Show us were I said 100K per year was peanuts, lying moron...LMAO

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Nov 19, 2012
 
GRANDPA NICOLAI wrote:
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Show us were I said 100K per year was peanuts, lying moron...LMAO
You claimed that the poor employees were being cheated and they were paid peanuts

As normal for you it was a lie

You opened your mouth before you checked your facts like you do in 90 percent of your post
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#24
Nov 20, 2012
 
Here's a link that gives a good historical perspective of the Hostess/Union agreements.

http://pulse.me/s/fwUnz

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#25
Nov 20, 2012
 
Annoyed wrote:
Here's a link that gives a good historical perspective of the Hostess/Union agreements.
http://pulse.me/s/fwUnz
Yes a janitor complained about making 38k per year plus benefits that add up to over 50k per year..........

For a flunky like you sweeping the floor.....
GRANDPA NICOLAI

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Nov 20, 2012
 
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Yes a janitor complained about making 38k per year plus benefits that add up to over 50k per year..........
For a flunky like you sweeping the floor.....
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You are a miserable liar, but what else is new...?

The Hostess sanitation salaries range from 23K-28K

Production workers earn 25K to 31K

Salespeople earn 22K - 26K

clerks weigh in at 22K - 26K

The one's commanding salaries of 70K plus are mostly non union managers and engineers.....

http://www.careerbliss.com/salary/hostess-bra...
Tea Party Solution

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Nov 20, 2012
 
GRANDPA NICOLAI wrote:
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You are a miserable liar, but what else is new...?
The Hostess sanitation salaries range from 23K-28K
Production workers earn 25K to 31K
Salespeople earn 22K - 26K
clerks weigh in at 22K - 26K
The one's commanding salaries of 70K plus are mostly non union managers and engineers.....
http://www.careerbliss.com/salary/hostess-bra...
I went to your link, GRANDPA, and as you've shown, everyday Hostess workers are making very little.

I don't get why righties demand low wages for the workers, while ignoring-- or cheering-- the huge earnings of those at the higher levels. Hostess management has given themselves huge wage INCREASES while at the same time they blame the company's problems on workers making 25K a year.

Why do these guys continually complain about some worker trying to get a livable wage? They want all of our workers to make less and less, and then they'll complain that these workers aren't paying enough taxes.

It's just idiotic.

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Nov 20, 2012
 
GRANDPA NICOLAI wrote:
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You are a miserable liar, but what else is new...?
The Hostess sanitation salaries range from 23K-28K
Production workers earn 25K to 31K
Salespeople earn 22K - 26K
clerks weigh in at 22K - 26K
The one's commanding salaries of 70K plus are mostly non union managers and engineers.....
http://www.careerbliss.com/salary/hostess-bra...
Your link shows the average worker make 50k per year

Plus bennies that can amount to more than 25k per year......

Thanks for proving yourself wrong..........LOL
GRANDPA NICOLAI

Chico, CA

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Nov 20, 2012
 
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Your link shows the average worker make 50k per year
Plus bennies that can amount to more than 25k per year......
Thanks for proving yourself wrong..........LOL
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Listen moron,

Don't you even know what an average salary is...?

Briefly, average is the middle of the road, half make more and the other half makes less, higher numbers tend to move the averages figures higher and lower numbers drag it downwards...

Take a trucking company with the CEO pulling 10 million and an XO raking in 5 million plus 10 truckers each earning 75K per year if you average those wages you come up with an average pay of $1,312,500 so then a moron like you would say that the janitor or a grease monkey in that company makes an average wage of $1,312, 500....LMAO
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Nov 20, 2012
 

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GRANDPA NICOLAI wrote:
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moron...
middle of the road
Hey Road Toa d...

You misspelled "roa d"...

You know...

How you used to spell your screen name:

Middle of the roa d...

You always used to give that little "tell" by the space after the last letter...

You did it on a couple of other of your screen names also like:

Wonder z... and Ponder z... and several others...

Wow...!

Those were the days...!

Huh Road Toa d...?

You really do have some fun here on these Internet chat forums...

Don't you Road Toa d...?
La Migra

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Nov 20, 2012
 
GRANDPA NICOLAI

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I went to your link, GRANDPA, and as you've shown, everyday Hostess workers are making very little.
I don't get why righties demand low wages for the workers, while ignoring-- or cheering-- the huge earnings of those at the higher levels. Hostess management has given themselves huge wage INCREASES while at the same time they blame the company's problems on workers making 25K a year.
Why do these guys continually complain about some worker trying to get a livable wage? They want all of our workers to make less and less, and then they'll complain that these workers aren't paying enough taxes.
It's just idiotic.
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I agree with you SOLUTION, it is quite nebulous to me as to why the righties insist on lower wages for themselves and cheer while the fat cats exploit them.

Could it be that they bought into this "trickle-down theory" line, hook and sinker and think that eventually they will partake of some of that wealth...???

I don't know about you but I have not seen too much trickling down from the Waltons nor the Koch brothers, but I sure see a lot of liberal and conservative wealth flowing up their way....

At any rate, if you ever figure it out, please share....

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#33
Nov 21, 2012
 
GRANDPA NICOLAI wrote:
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Listen moron,

Don't you even know what an average salary is...?

Briefly, average is the middle of the road, half make more and the other half makes less, higher numbers tend to move the averages figures higher and lower numbers drag it downwards...

Take a trucking company with the CEO pulling 10 million and an XO raking in 5 million plus 10 truckers each earning 75K per year if you average those wages you come up with an average pay of $1,312,500 so then a moron like you would say that the janitor or a grease monkey in that company makes an average wage of $1,312, 500....LMAO
I posted links that showed their wages

Salary plus benefits and the lowest starting pay is more than 50k

Learn to read ya fool
GRANDPA NICOLAI

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Nov 21, 2012
 

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I posted links that showed their wages
Salary plus benefits and the lowest starting pay is more than 50k
Learn to read ya fool
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All you proved is that you do not understand a simple chart, Hostess wages range from $18K on upwards...

Your ridiculous claim that the starting pay at Hostess is $50K is a flat out lie, just like everything else you ever posted on TOPIX...

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#35
Nov 21, 2012
 
GRANDPA NICOLAI wrote:
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All you proved is that you do not understand a simple chart, Hostess wages range from $18K on upwards...
Your ridiculous claim that the starting pay at Hostess is $50K is a flat out lie, just like everything else you ever posted on TOPIX...
Add healthcare for a family of four
BlueCross is over 15k per year
Two weeks vacation paid
Sick pay
Retirement.........LOL
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#36
Nov 21, 2012
 
GRANDPA NICOLAI wrote:
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All you proved is that you do not understand a simple chart, Hostess wages range from $18K on upwards...
Your ridiculous claim that the starting pay at Hostess is $50K is a flat out lie, just like everything else you ever posted on TOPIX...
Hey stupid.
Don't you realize that your point is moot?
Hostess can no longer afford to be in business. Thanks in part to obamacare.
20,000 folks have lost their jobs....it is over.
Argue with that.....You friggen moron.

btw, I know one of the workers personally(high school diploma only). He was making 80k plus bennies.....he also wanted to take a pay cut to keep his job.......but the union said "no way".

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Nov 21, 2012
 
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Hey stupid.
Don't you realize that your point is moot?
Hostess can no longer afford to be in business. Thanks in part to obamacare.
20,000 folks have lost their jobs....it is over.
Argue with that.....You friggen moron.
btw, I know one of the workers personally(high school diploma only). He was making 80k plus bennies.....he also wanted to take a pay cut to keep his job.......but the union said "no way".
Liberals dont care about 20k people that lost a job........

All they care about is if you make more money than they do.....
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#38
Nov 21, 2012
 
Here Is One wrote:
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Add healthcare for a family of four
BlueCross is over 15k per year
Two weeks vacation paid
Sick pay
Retirement.........LOL
In the fairy tale world of public employees, you simply raise prices(taxes) to cover additional expenses.
In the real world, private businesses have to compete fo customers and income.
If they cannot compete due to high labor/operating costs, they must raise prices, hence more competitive products will inevitably beat them out.
Hostess has thrown in the towel because there is simply no way for them to compete. It is more profitable to sell the company off in pieces.........and the downward economic spiral continues.
When will these dummy progressives understand a free market economy?
If business cannot make a profit, they will simply cease to exist.....i.e. Hostess brands.

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Nov 21, 2012
 

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Local wrote:
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In the fairy tale world of public employees, you simply raise prices(taxes) to cover additional expenses.
In the real world, private businesses have to compete fo customers and income.
If they cannot compete due to high labor/operating costs, they must raise prices, hence more competitive products will inevitably beat them out.
Hostess has thrown in the towel because there is simply no way for them to compete. It is more profitable to sell the company off in pieces.........and the downward economic spiral continues.
When will these dummy progressives understand a free market economy?
If business cannot make a profit, they will simply cease to exist.....i.e. Hostess brands.
That is what these moron liberals dont understand........

If a business is not making money the business will close......

If you raise the expenses to a business they will raise prices if the market will bare it and if not they close down....

oslamacare will take a lot of companies that were just making ends meet and close them down
GRANDPA NICOLAI

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Nov 21, 2012
 
Local wrote:
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In the fairy tale world of public employees, you simply raise prices(taxes) to cover additional expenses.
In the real world, private businesses have to compete fo customers and income.
If they cannot compete due to high labor/operating costs, they must raise prices, hence more competitive products will inevitably beat them out.
Hostess has thrown in the towel because there is simply no way for them to compete. It is more profitable to sell the company off in pieces.........and the downward economic spiral continues.
When will these dummy progressives understand a free market economy?
If business cannot make a profit, they will simply cease to exist.....i.e. Hostess brands.
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Sure moron...

What about the obscene 300% pay raise the CEO and all the other Hostess execs got ...?

https://eslkevin.wordpress.com/2012/11/19/hos...

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Nov 21, 2012
 
GRANDPA NICOLAI wrote:
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Sure moron...
What about the obscene 300% pay raise the CEO and all the other Hostess execs got ...?
https://eslkevin.wordpress.com/2012/11/19/hos...
Too bad and so sad..........It is a private company and they can pay anyone any amount they like.....

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