Hostess tells the unions to take a hike.
GRANDPA NICOLAI

Chico, CA

#81 Nov 19, 2012
Here Is One wrote:
<quoted text>
Wrong again my little troll
I was on a airplane headed south long before the election was called
And if you were not so stupid you would have remembered all of the times I told you leading up to the election that we here in Mexico are rooting for oslama
But a moron like you would have forgotten that..........LOL
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I know you were rooting for OBAMA all along, that is why you were posting all kind of stupid nonsense to make conservatives look dumber than hell....ROTFLMAO
Tea Party Solution

United States

#82 Nov 19, 2012
The Hostess story is complicated. The management wants to blame everything on the workers, of course. And righties, who hate unions with a passion, lap up this lie.

Did you know that Hostess has been in economic trouble for years? They first filed for BK in 2004. Sales of their fat and calorie laden confections have been declining for years. Many people have chaned their diets to more healthy products.

Did you know that hedge funds now own Hostess, a la Bain Capital?

"But while headlines have been quick to blame unions for the downfall of the company there’s actually more to the story: While the company was filing for bankruptcy, for the second time, earlier this year, it actually tripled its CEO’s pay, and increased other executives’ compensation by as much as 80 percent."

http://www.nationofchange.org/hostess-blames-...

The management at Hostess would love to pay their workers $15 an hour, slash their health care and pensions, while they triple their own pay. Typical vulture capitalism.

"It also follows a trend of rising CEO pay in times of economic difficulty. At the manufacturing company Caterpillar, for example, they froze workers’ pay while boosting their CEO’s pay to $17 million. And at Citigroup, CEO Vikram Pandit received $6.7 million for crashing his company, walking off with $260 million after the business lost 88 percent of its value."

And you righties cheer these plutocrats on and on. When Hostess goes BK, or is sold to another corporation, the workers will lose their jobs and their legally contracted pensions. And the fat cats will just get fatter, which you guys love.

I don't get it. You don't care if the fat cats get huge pay increases as the company goes bankrupt. You're just ectstatic that those greedy workers lose their jobs and pensions.

Yo want everyone to finally make what workers make in China-- everyone, of course, BUT YOURSELF.
TWP

Cisco, IL

#83 Nov 19, 2012
Tea Party Solution wrote:
Typical vulture capitalism...

I don't get it...
everyone, of course, BUT YOURSELF...
Hey "Tea Party Solution"...

You claim to be worth over $20 MILLION DOLLARS...

Right...?

Wow...

That is LOT OF $MONEY$...!!!

Isn't it "Tea Party Solution"...?

So tell us "Tea Party Solution"...

How does someone become as $FILTHY STINKING RICH$ as you claim to be and avoid using the "EVIL, INHUMAN CAPITALIST AMERICAN SYSTEM" that you obviously hate so much...?

You are without question the most self-righteous, sanctimonious, egotistical, holier-than-thou Obama Democrat who blesses the Chico TOPIX forum with your glorious pearls of wisdom...

So tell us "Tea Party Solution"...

How did you get so $RICH$ and still claim not to be a Capitalist...?

Please...

Grace us with your self-righteous, sanctimonious, egotistical, holier-than-thou Obama Democrat wisdom "Tea Party Solution"...!

“Facts”

Since: May 08

Location hidden

#84 Nov 19, 2012
Name Calling One wrote:
<quoted text>Troll, stupid, moron, this is the vocabulary of One.
Poor fat squaw is still angry........LOL

“Facts”

Since: May 08

Location hidden

#85 Nov 19, 2012
GRANDPA NICOLAI wrote:
<quoted text>>
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Thanks for confirming for the thousandth time that you do not understand what you read...

But what can we expect from a moron who said people would rather vote for charles manson than vote for President OBAMA....LMAO
Really

You claimed oslama only went after raw dairy shipped across state lines but the facts prove you wrong again.....

Oslama went after raw dairy produced and even gave away in California
Never crossed a state line nor was it even sold

40 percent of democrats in one primary voted for a incarcerated felon.......

Remember???

I proved you a liar on that subject also

“Facts”

Since: May 08

Location hidden

#86 Nov 19, 2012
GRANDPA NICOLAI wrote:
<quoted text>>
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Whatever you say...

President OBAMA got reelected for another four years and according to the US Constitution he will not be eligible to run for President again, so you can stop lying now.....LMAO
Why don't you just come out and say that oslama never made a deal with the insurance companies to prevent you from buying insurance from companies like IMG??????

How about his deal he made with the pharmaceutical companies allowing them to charge you double for drugs???

Or do you know I will post the facts that prove you are a liar again???

“Facts”

Since: May 08

Location hidden

#87 Nov 19, 2012
GRANDPA NICOLAI wrote:
<quoted text>>
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I know you were rooting for OBAMA all along, that is why you were posting all kind of stupid nonsense to make conservatives look dumber than hell....ROTFLMAO
Too bad you are too stupid to read........

Or you would have seen that I did say oslama will be great for Mexico........LOL

“Facts”

Since: May 08

Location hidden

#88 Nov 19, 2012
Tea Party Solution wrote:
The Hostess story is complicated. The management wants to blame everything on the workers, of course. And righties, who hate unions with a passion, lap up this lie.

Did you know that Hostess has been in economic trouble for years? They first filed for BK in 2004. Sales of their fat and calorie laden confections have been declining for years. Many people have chaned their diets to more healthy products.

Did you know that hedge funds now own Hostess, a la Bain Capital?

"But while headlines have been quick to blame unions for the downfall of the company thereÂ’s actually more to the story: While the company was filing for bankruptcy, for the second time, earlier this year, it actually tripled its CEOÂ’s pay, and increased other executivesÂ’ compensation by as much as 80 percent."

http://www.nationofchange.org/hostess-blames-...

The management at Hostess would love to pay their workers $15 an hour, slash their health care and pensions, while they triple their own pay. Typical vulture capitalism.

"It also follows a trend of rising CEO pay in times of economic difficulty. At the manufacturing company Caterpillar, for example, they froze workersÂ’ pay while boosting their CEOÂ’s pay to $17 million. And at Citigroup, CEO Vikram Pandit received $6.7 million for crashing his company, walking off with $260 million after the business lost 88 percent of its value."

And you righties cheer these plutocrats on and on. When Hostess goes BK, or is sold to another corporation, the workers will lose their jobs and their legally contracted pensions. And the fat cats will just get fatter, which you guys love.

I don't get it. You don't care if the fat cats get huge pay increases as the company goes bankrupt. You're just ectstatic that those greedy workers lose their jobs and pensions.

Yo want everyone to finally make what workers make in China-- everyone, of course, BUT YOURSELF.
Yes the unions have been strangling them for a long time
GRANDPA NICOLAI

Chico, CA

#89 Nov 19, 2012
Here Is One wrote:
<quoted text>
Really
You claimed oslama only went after raw dairy shipped across state lines but the facts prove you wrong again.....
Oslama went after raw dairy produced and even gave away in California
Never crossed a state line nor was it even sold
40 percent of democrats in one primary voted for a incarcerated felon.......
Remember???
I proved you a liar on that subject also
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Facts are you are a liar because I can go to any natural food store in California and by raw dairy today just as I could when you were posting your stupid links...

No One except a moron like you gives a damn about how many ignorant fools like you voted for an incarcerated felon...

The fact is that the REAL voters did not vote for charlie manson nor your incarcerated felon but they voted to re-elect President OBAMA, but you are too stupid to realize that....

Thanks for letting me prove you are a fool for the umpteenth time....LMAO
GRANDPA NICOLAI

Chico, CA

#90 Nov 19, 2012
Tea Party Solution wrote:
The Hostess story is complicated. The management wants to blame everything on the workers, of course. And righties, who hate unions with a passion, lap up this lie.
Did you know that Hostess has been in economic trouble for years? They first filed for BK in 2004. Sales of their fat and calorie laden confections have been declining for years. Many people have chaned their diets to more healthy products.
Did you know that hedge funds now own Hostess, a la Bain Capital?
"But while headlines have been quick to blame unions for the downfall of the company there’s actually more to the story: While the company was filing for bankruptcy, for the second time, earlier this year, it actually tripled its CEO’s pay, and increased other executives’ compensation by as much as 80 percent."
http://www.nationofchange.org/hostess-blames-...
The management at Hostess would love to pay their workers $15 an hour, slash their health care and pensions, while they triple their own pay. Typical vulture capitalism.
"It also follows a trend of rising CEO pay in times of economic difficulty. At the manufacturing company Caterpillar, for example, they froze workers’ pay while boosting their CEO’s pay to $17 million. And at Citigroup, CEO Vikram Pandit received $6.7 million for crashing his company, walking off with $260 million after the business lost 88 percent of its value."
And you righties cheer these plutocrats on and on. When Hostess goes BK, or is sold to another corporation, the workers will lose their jobs and their legally contracted pensions. And the fat cats will just get fatter, which you guys love.
I don't get it. You don't care if the fat cats get huge pay increases as the company goes bankrupt. You're just ectstatic that those greedy workers lose their jobs and pensions.
Yo want everyone to finally make what workers make in China-- everyone, of course, BUT YOURSELF.
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It is also noteworthy that the CEO of Hostess got his pay raised recently from $ 750,000 to $2.25 million....

Also, earlier today, bankruptcy judge Robert Drain sent both parties back to the bargaining table, on e of the reasons given is that Hostess is planing improper bonuses to all the companies insiders...
GRANDPA NICOLAI

Chico, CA

#91 Nov 19, 2012
Here Is One wrote:
<quoted text>
Why don't you just come out and say that oslama never made a deal with the insurance companies to prevent you from buying insurance from companies like IMG??????
How about his deal he made with the pharmaceutical companies allowing them to charge you double for drugs???
Or do you know I will post the facts that prove you are a liar again???
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>
>
Listen moron, you posted tens of thousand of lies but you have yet to post a single fact...

I don't even know why I even waste my time replying to your nonsense other than it allows you to make a total fool of yourself making other conservatives appear foolish in the process...LMAO

“Facts”

Since: May 08

Location hidden

#92 Nov 19, 2012
GRANDPA NICOLAI wrote:
<quoted text>>
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Facts are you are a liar because I can go to any natural food store in California and by raw dairy today just as I could when you were posting your stupid links...

No One except a moron like you gives a damn about how many ignorant fools like you voted for an incarcerated felon...

The fact is that the REAL voters did not vote for charlie manson nor your incarcerated felon but they voted to re-elect President OBAMA, but you are too stupid to realize that....

Thanks for letting me prove you are a fool for the umpteenth time....LMAO
I showed you video footage from ABC of the jack booted Gestapo oslama sent to more than one place in California
One was even a private coop that was raided three times
After the third time they could not cover the cost of damaged goods and they closed
Whole Foods had over a 100k in damages from one raid

But to a moron like you it is no big deal and claim it hurt nothing as you can still buy raw dairy

“Facts”

Since: May 08

Location hidden

#93 Nov 19, 2012
GRANDPA NICOLAI wrote:
<quoted text>>
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It is also noteworthy that the CEO of Hostess got his pay raised recently from $ 750,000 to $2.25 million....

Also, earlier today, bankruptcy judge Robert Drain sent both parties back to the bargaining table, on e of the reasons given is that Hostess is planing improper bonuses to all the companies insiders...
I have paid a CEO or director of a company ten times more each year than I made and did it for years

But they took the company to IPO and after the two year wait I sold my shares and made a thousand times what he made

But you don't care about share holders.

Only the poor workers that were making a 100k per year and bankrupted the company
If the 18k employees got a extra 20 bucks per month that would far exceed the raise of the CEO

But according to you a janitor should be CEO
GRANDPA NICOLAI

Chico, CA

#94 Nov 20, 2012
Here Is One wrote:
<quoted text>
I showed you video footage from ABC of the jack booted Gestapo oslama sent to more than one place in California
One was even a private coop that was raided three times
After the third time they could not cover the cost of damaged goods and they closed
Whole Foods had over a 100k in damages from one raid
But to a moron like you it is no big deal and claim it hurt nothing as you can still buy raw dairy
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Listen moron,

First off, President OBAMA has got more pressing things to do than send "jack booted Gestapo" storm troopers to raid chicken coops...LMAO

Second, if I remember right, those outfits were operating illegally and deserved to be raided, they are no different then your Mexican buddies who grow marijuana in our National Forests...
GRANDPA NICOLAI

Chico, CA

#95 Nov 20, 2012
Here Is One wrote:
<quoted text>
I have paid a CEO or director of a company ten times more each year than I made and did it for years
But they took the company to IPO and after the two year wait I sold my shares and made a thousand times what he made
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And then you woke up....
GRANDPA NICOLAI

Chico, CA

#96 Nov 20, 2012
Here Is One wrote:
<quoted text>

But you don't care about share holders.
Only the poor workers that were making a 100k per year and bankrupted the company
If the 18k employees got a extra 20 bucks per month that would far exceed the raise of the CEO
But according to you a janitor should be CEO
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Stop lying, only a small fraction of the Hostess employees were making 100K....

The 18K employees are the ones doing all the work therefore they are more deserving of the extra $20 bucks per month than the CEO who is already raking in $750K...

I have known janitors who have more common sense than some CEOs have...
sociopathic Liberals

Orland, CA

#97 Nov 20, 2012
GRANDPA NICOLAI wrote:
<quoted text>
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Listen moron,
First off, President OBAMA has got more pressing things to do than send "jack booted Gestapo" storm troopers to raid chicken coops
Like what? Golf???

You are such an uninformed idiot!!!

What you see from this is a pattern of government-sponsored terrorism against innocent Americans and small business people; all done in the name of "protecting" the public from milk, walnuts, vitamins, plants or fruit extracts. The real reason behind all this, of course, is that the FDA has long waged a campaign of fear and intimidation against natural product providers for the sole purpose of destroying the natural products industry and thereby handing Big Pharma a monopoly over health treatment medicines.
Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/033280_FDA_raids_t...

Rawesome Raid: Federal Agents Arrest Owner, Dump Food.
Rawesome foods, a private market in Venice California, has been raided a second time by federal agents. Initial reports from NaturalNews.com reveal that the owner, James Stewart, has been arrested and is being held on $123,000 bail.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/08/03/raws...

Police raid raw dairy producers in L.A., destroy inventory
Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2011/08/04/who-cut-the...

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You are such an idiot nicoliar!!!
sociopathic Liberals

Orland, CA

#98 Nov 20, 2012
GRANDPA NICOLAI wrote:
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Stop lying, only a small fraction of the Hostess employees were making 100K....
The 18K employees are the ones doing all the work therefore they are more deserving of the extra $20 bucks per month than the CEO who is already raking in $750K...
I have known janitors who have more common sense than some CEOs have...
And your proof for this lie???
You dumbphuqing moron! It has been posted on here several times now how much the STARTING wages of hostess employees!$60,000 And that does not include the paid days off and other benefits!

I can not believe how you constantly lie and make a complete jennyass of your idiotic and pathetic self!
You nicoliar? You are the epitome of total ignorance!!!
sociopathic Liberals

Orland, CA

#99 Nov 20, 2012
GRANDPA NICOLAI wrote:
<quoted text>

The 18K employees are the ones doing all the work therefore they are more deserving of the extra $20 bucks per month than the CEO who is already raking in $750K...
And I also see that you are one of those dumbpuqs who believe that because someone (CEO) does not do the actual physical labor, that they've got it real easy!
You once again have shown us all that you have absolutely NO idea of what it is to own, operate or manage a business! Especially one that size of Hostess!

You nicoliar? You are the epitome of complete ignorance!!!
GRANDPA NICOLAI

Chico, CA

#100 Nov 20, 2012
sociopathic Liberals wrote:
<quoted text>
And your proof for this lie???
You dumbphuqing moron! It has been posted on here several times now how much the STARTING wages of hostess employees!$60,000 And that does not include the paid days off and other benefits!
I can not believe how you constantly lie and make a complete jennyass of your idiotic and pathetic self!
You nicoliar? You are the epitome of total ignorance!!!
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Yo know...?

I would have never believed that even a complete fool like you would have bought into the ridiculous lie that starting wages at Hostess are in the order of $60K, but you proved me wrong...

You are dumber than even I could have imagined you to be...!!!!!!!

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