Messianic Jews say they are persecuted in Israel

[Frijoles]

SeasideSoon wrote:

<quoted text>Actually Reverend Wright's group is more suitable - no Republicans there.
"GD America"

But there is no irony in that.

[Frijoles]

Besides, I dont think Hughbe knows that he is black.

[Frijoles]

Move over, Big Bird, we got a better scapegoat..
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Republicans to Cities: "Drop Dead"
How the G.O.P. Became the Anti-Urban Party

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/07/opinion/sun...

[SeasideSoon]

Frijoles wrote:

Move over, Big Bird, we got a better scapegoat..
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Republicans to Cities: "Drop Dead"
How the G.O.P. Became the Anti-Urban Party
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/07/opinion/sun...

I got through her rambling, but wonder why someone who claims to be a conservative doesn't understand that history has shown that cities have always had a excessive amount of control of how state tax (and federal)dollars are spent. Of course, it's because of their numbers (votes), that's a given. But with that lopsided power, the rest of the state gets the shaft becaue the voters inside the loop have their own agenda and priorities. Screw everybody else is the general sentiment. So Ms. Peggy is now outraged that those outside the loop have finally found a voice? Her comments are a waste of newsprint and bandwidth.

[Frijoles]

SeasideSoon wrote:

<quoted text>I got through her rambling, but wonder why someone who claims to be a conservative doesn't understand that history has shown that cities have always had a excessive amount of control of how state tax (and federal)dollars are spent. Of course, it's because of their numbers (votes), that's a given. But with that lopsided power, the rest of the state gets the shaft becaue the voters inside the loop have their own agenda and priorities. Screw everybody else is the general sentiment. So Ms. Peggy is now outraged that those outside the loop have finally found a voice? Her comments are a waste of newsprint and bandwidth.

Its a little than finding a voice. Many of the anti-city comments are nothing more than a screen for racist codewords. Which is amusing to the rest of us who understand that the cities are more than that.

[Frijoles]

SeasideSoon wrote:

<quoted text>I got through her rambling, but wonder why someone who claims to be a conservative ...

So, speaking of rambling, what do you make of the new Mitt? Who is the real Mitt?

And why are the Repubs circling the wagons around him now that he is no longer severely Conservative? To me, that shows what the real issue is. This election to them is not about ideology but a hatefest against Obama (the Urban One).

[Cult of Reason]

Frijoles wrote:

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Its all ok though.
The homophobic Jamaican known as Hughbe finds confort knowing that people sensible people like him exist.

I can sleep better know that ;-)

[Cult of Reason]

former res wrote:

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That makes it even scarier.
He sounds like a "cafeteria Christian."
Might as well put Huggybear in charge of science!

Let's not get carried away now.

[Frijoles]

Cult of Reason wrote:

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Let's not get carried away now.

Who knows, maybe in the Alice in Wonderland culture of a future Romney Administration, he will appoint a nuclear physicist as poet laureate.

[Frijoles]

BTW my wife wants to vote for Mitt because according to him there is no global warming (She knows there IS such a warming but she likes the better idea of creating a new reality)

[SeasideSoon]

Frijoles wrote:

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Its a little than finding a voice. Many of the anti-city comments are nothing more than a screen for racist codewords. Which is amusing to the rest of us who understand that the cities are more than that.

My voice isn't racist, has never been racist. I'm an equal opportunity basher of thugs regardless of race. I just don't like my tax dollars used to fund boondoggles in the city.

[SeasideSoon]

Frijoles wrote:

<quoted text>
So, speaking of rambling, what do you make of the new Mitt? Who is the real Mitt?
And why are the Repubs circling the wagons around him now that he is no longer severely Conservative? To me, that shows what the real issue is. This election to them is not about ideology but a hatefest against Obama (the Urban One).

Question. Has anyone who watches NBC, ABC, CBS, and especially MSNBC ever seen the reality of any conservative? Chris Matthews tingles which pretty much answers the question.

[Frijoles]

SeasideSoon wrote:

<quoted text>Question. Has anyone who watches NBC, ABC, CBS, and especially MSNBC ever seen the reality of any conservative? Chris Matthews tingles which pretty much answers the question.

Are you talking conservatives, or severe conservatives?

[Frijoles]

SeasideSoon wrote:

<quoted text>My voice isn't racist, has never been racist. I'm an equal opportunity basher of thugs regardless of race. I just don't like my tax dollars used to fund boondoggles in the city.

But you have no problem funding boondoggles in the country. Whats one persons boondoggle is anothers persons treasure. Its a question of values and labels. Dont for a moment think that your boondoggles are less boondogglish than others.

I dont for a moment think you are racist. But I think there are many people with political views that are.

[Frijoles]

SeasideSoon wrote:

<quoted text>Question. Has anyone who watches NBC, ABC, CBS, and especially MSNBC ever seen the reality of any conservative? Chris Matthews tingles which pretty much answers the question.

People hide behind labels like conservative or liberal. They have no real meaning beyond tribal affiliation. A lot of people dont feel real unless they are part of a tribe, of which its basis is not being the other tribe.

[SeasideSoon]

Frijoles wrote:

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But you have no problem funding boondoggles in the country. Whats one persons boondoggle is anothers persons treasure. Its a question of values and labels. Dont for a moment think that your boondoggles are less boondogglish than others.
I dont for a moment think you are racist. But I think there are many people with political views that are.

Which boondoogles would you guess I treasure? I'm particularly fond of interstate highways and yes, national parks.

But..
http://endoftheamericandream.com/archives/30-...

The Pork King, Robert G.Byrd got 3.3 billion into West Virginia.

[SeasideSoon]

Frijoles wrote:

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People hide behind labels like conservative or liberal. They have no real meaning beyond tribal affiliation. A lot of people dont feel real unless they are part of a tribe, of which its basis is not being the other tribe.

Funny, in the past, I didn't feel part of either tribe. I generally voted Republican the last twenty years, and Democrat before that What I started hearing since Obama was elected, is that people (meaning me) didn't vote for him because he was black and that people (meaning me) don't care about the less fortunate. I think that type of shallow reasoning solidified my tribal affiliation more than anything else.

[MUQ]

Why Companions of Prophet Did not Write Down Hadith?

The Companion (May Allah bless them) did not think it proper to put the traditions in the written form for three reasons.

1) Initially, the holy Prophet (Peace be upon him) had forbidden them to put anything into writing except the holy Quran while it was being revealed by Allah.

He had said,“Do not write anything that you hear from me except the holy Quran.” The idea was to save the common people from mixing up the word of
Allah with the sayings of the Prophet (Peace he upon him).

Later, when the holy Quran had been fully preserved among the Muslims, the Prophet himself permitted his Companions to write down his sayings. Even then certain Companions avoided the written form out of extreme caution.

2) The Companions (May Allah bless them) were afraid that if the details of the Prophet’s life and his sayings were put in the written form, the coming generations will not pay due attention and importance to learning by heart and
preserving the traditions...

3) The third reason was that Arabs were proud of their exceptionally strong memory and it was still considered a sign of weakness to resort to writing for preserving a historical event...

When the Written Records were First made (Some Misconceptions):

Today let me reveal to you, and it is being established for the first time here in this meeting with you, that it is absolutely baseless to claim that for a period of 90 or 100 years the job of preserving the holy Prophets biographical details and his sayings was limited to oral traditions alone.

The real reason behind this misconception is that chronologically the first written collection of the holy Prophet’s sayings is considered to be Imam Malik’s Muatta, and the first of his biographies is said to be Ibn Ishaq’s Al-Maghazi, The two scholars were contemporary and died in the Hijrah years 179 and 151 respectively.

That is why the first written collection of the holy Prophet’s traditions is deemed to have started in the beginning of the second century of the Hijrah calendar. However, there is sound historical evidence to prove that this work had started a lot earlier than that.

Umar bin Abdul Aziz died in 101 AU. He was himself an eminent scholar and had been the governor of Madinah. He became caliph in 99 AH. During his tenure as the caliph he wrote to Abu Bakr bin Muhammad bin Amr bim Hazm,(the Qadi of Madinah and a great scholar and authority on the holy Prophet’s traditions) and ordered him to begin the work on compiling the sayings and traditions of the holy Prophet.... This executive order was carried out. An account of the holy Prophet’s life, his sayings and deeds was written and compiled. It was brought to the capital and submitted to Caliph Umar bin Abdul Aziz...

[Frijoles]

SeasideSoon wrote:

<quoted text>Funny, in the past, I didn't feel part of either tribe. I generally voted Republican the last twenty years, and Democrat before that What I started hearing since Obama was elected, is that people (meaning me) didn't vote for him because he was black and that people (meaning me) don't care about the less fortunate. I think that type of shallow reasoning solidified my tribal affiliation more than anything else.

You may not think that way, but it has been clear since the first day of Obamas presidency that there were a lot of people were pissed off at the idea of a black man as president. What do you think all the birtherism /closet muslim thing is all about?Where else does that irrational hatred come from? I was never a fan of Bush, but you didnt see me exuding that degree of emotion against him.

Regarding the less fortunate, Romney didnt win you any favors in arguing that repubs care. And neither did any of the zanies during the primaries.

[Frijoles]

SeasideSoon wrote:

<quoted text>Which boondoogles would you guess I treasure? I'm particularly fond of interstate highways and yes, national parks.
But..
http://endoftheamericandream.com/archives/30-...
The Pork King, Robert G.Byrd got 3.3 billion into West Virginia.

You missed the point. Nothing is a boondoggle. Everything is a boondoggle. Equate boondoggle with pork. People just have different priorities.