Letter: Weigh in on Chico's alcohol p...

Letter: Weigh in on Chico's alcohol problem

There are 7 comments on the Chico Enterprise-Record story from Jan 29, 2013, titled Letter: Weigh in on Chico's alcohol problem. In it, Chico Enterprise-Record reports that:

In the Jan. 13 Enterprise-Record, 25 people representing the university and the community signed an open letter titled "A Call for Community Action." "... Chico is a great place to live," they wrote.

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Adam Ghiorso

Paradise, CA

#1 Jan 30, 2013
Cheap alcohol prices and Chico's reputation as the destination to spend your college days binge drinking are major factors in this problem. Chico, and the University community need to take a hard line stance against the utterly ridiculous culture that has been created here. Squash the river float, do away with the Greeks, make admission standards higher, and make it clear the party is over. Many locals are not only annoyed but disgusted that our police and firefighters have become the default baby sitters for a party culture run amok. We are tired of diverting our resources to cleaning up their mess and trying to control a bunch of over privalidged alcoholics.
The cheap alcohol that is always available in our bars is a major problem. Go into any bar and the cheapest beers on tap are always Sierra Nevada and domestics. And guess what most of these students suck down the most of? Yep, good old Sierra Nevada. Let us not over look our local alcohol industry and what they have "really" contributed to our town. Sierra Nevada put us on the map for being a place where we not only drink too much but we get it right down the street. Sierra Nevada has been pouring cheap beer down people's throats for decades in Chico. I don't care how many jobs they provide or how great people think they are, they still made their fortune by getting people drunk. But all that doesn't matter because they are pretty "green" right? I hope that this time around we are ready to tackle this issue and effect real change, too many lives have been lost already to Chico's animal house.
TSQ

Pearl City, HI

#2 Jan 30, 2013
Adam Ghiorso wrote:
Cheap alcohol prices and Chico's reputation as the destination to spend your college days binge drinking are major factors in this problem. Chico, and the University community need to take a hard line stance against the utterly ridiculous culture that has been created here. Squash the river float, do away with the Greeks, make admission standards higher, and make it clear the party is over. Many locals are not only annoyed but disgusted that our police and firefighters have become the default baby sitters for a party culture run amok. We are tired of diverting our resources to cleaning up their mess and trying to control a bunch of over privalidged alcoholics.
The cheap alcohol that is always available in our bars is a major problem. Go into any bar and the cheapest beers on tap are always Sierra Nevada and domestics. And guess what most of these students suck down the most of? Yep, good old Sierra Nevada. Let us not over look our local alcohol industry and what they have "really" contributed to our town. Sierra Nevada put us on the map for being a place where we not only drink too much but we get it right down the street. Sierra Nevada has been pouring cheap beer down people's throats for decades in Chico. I don't care how many jobs they provide or how great people think they are, they still made their fortune by getting people drunk. But all that doesn't matter because they are pretty "green" right? I hope that this time around we are ready to tackle this issue and effect real change, too many lives have been lost already to Chico's animal house.
I think you make a lot of good points here and I thank you for starting this conversation, but I think you place too much blame on Sierra Nevada. Excessive drinking in Chico is a problem that predates Sierra Nevada (the brewery and the beer) and it would continue to be a problem if the Sierra Nevada Brewery closed down tomorrow- plenty of suppliers (national and other) would rush in to fill the void and there are plenty of cheap national brands that would "work" just as well as Sierra Nevada for those who want to drink excessively. I think it relates more to the culture of drinking in Chico- which you address above- than to any particular source of alcohol. Thanks again for starting this thread. I hope you get a lot of productive comments on it. Be well.
Adam Ghiorso

Paradise, CA

#4 Feb 1, 2013
TSQ wrote:
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I think you make a lot of good points here and I thank you for starting this conversation, but I think you place too much blame on Sierra Nevada. Excessive drinking in Chico is a problem that predates Sierra Nevada (the brewery and the beer) and it would continue to be a problem if the Sierra Nevada Brewery closed down tomorrow- plenty of suppliers (national and other) would rush in to fill the void and there are plenty of cheap national brands that would "work" just as well as Sierra Nevada for those who want to drink excessively. I think it relates more to the culture of drinking in Chico- which you address above- than to any particular source of alcohol. Thanks again for starting this thread. I hope you get a lot of productive comments on it. Be well.
Thank you for the feedback, I certainly honor and respect your opinion. I understand the party culture in Chico predates Sierra Nevada, in fact it may have directly influenced its startup success. However it still adds to the "reputation" simply by being here and being popular. I understand other brands could easily fill Sierra Nevada's tap space but the fact is it doesn't. In addition to that they usually outnumber the other cheap choices as they have several to many beers to chose from and domestics usually only include Bud and Coors or perhaps only one of the two. So you see cheap alcohol, bars, profit, and Sierra Nevada are all closely linked. People are scared to bring up this fact for fear they will be ostracized because Sierra Nevad is so revered in Chico. The blame is definitely not entirely theirs, but they certainly have not helped Chico when it comes to the very serious alcohol problem here. My point is they are not simply benevolent, to solve this problem of culture and excessive student deaths we must be realistic and honest and seek out solutions that will work. Time to get tough because I am tired of the deaths, the litter on the river, the diversion of city resources and dodging the puke puddles on a Saturday morning if I want to go downtown for some breakfast.
annoyed

United States

#5 Feb 1, 2013
Adam Ghiorso wrote:
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Thank you for the feedback, I certainly honor and respect your opinion. I understand the party culture in Chico predates Sierra Nevada, in fact it may have directly influenced its startup success. However it still adds to the "reputation" simply by being here and being popular. I understand other brands could easily fill Sierra Nevada's tap space but the fact is it doesn't. In addition to that they usually outnumber the other cheap choices as they have several to many beers to chose from and domestics usually only include Bud and Coors or perhaps only one of the two. So you see cheap alcohol, bars, profit, and Sierra Nevada are all closely linked. People are scared to bring up this fact for fear they will be ostracized because Sierra Nevad is so revered in Chico. The blame is definitely not entirely theirs, but they certainly have not helped Chico when it comes to the very serious alcohol problem here. My point is they are not simply benevolent, to solve this problem of culture and excessive student deaths we must be realistic and honest and seek out solutions that will work. Time to get tough because I am tired of the deaths, the litter on the river, the diversion of city resources and dodging the puke puddles on a Saturday morning if I want to go downtown for some breakfast.
And then you have the morons who feel the alcohol culture in Chico is a GOOD thing, because they got drunk when they were students and it was GREAT. In fact so great they moved back to Chico to do it more. A legacy of alcoholism..isn't it great?

As far as any brewry...tax the hell out of 'em. They are a huge detriment to our society and should be treated like tobacco. Hike the six-pack price by another $12.00 (booze another $10-20.00) in tax and make our other state financial problems fade while keeping people alive and healthy by supporting anti-drinking programs and policies.(It will help with those puke piles as well).
Adam Ghiorso

Paradise, CA

#6 Feb 1, 2013
Sorry, chose in my reply should have been choose, I hate typos.
Joe

Paradise, CA

#7 Feb 1, 2013
Get rid of the Greeks, make admission standards higher, put a stop to the river floats, and pass effective ordinances to kill the parties and crowds. Put everyone's name who has died here from drugs and alcohol on a plaque in front of the University with a pledge to prevent more names from being added. It would be nice to return Chico to a place where it's citizens get to enjoy this town as well. Chico should not be bending over to accommodate a bunch of spoiled drunken brats that feel entitled to vomit and litter all over our town and river.
TSQ

Pearl City, HI

#8 Feb 1, 2013
Adam Ghiorso wrote:
<quoted text>
Thank you for the feedback, I certainly honor and respect your opinion. I understand the party culture in Chico predates Sierra Nevada, in fact it may have directly influenced its startup success. However it still adds to the "reputation" simply by being here and being popular. I understand other brands could easily fill Sierra Nevada's tap space but the fact is it doesn't. In addition to that they usually outnumber the other cheap choices as they have several to many beers to chose from and domestics usually only include Bud and Coors or perhaps only one of the two. So you see cheap alcohol, bars, profit, and Sierra Nevada are all closely linked. People are scared to bring up this fact for fear they will be ostracized because Sierra Nevad is so revered in Chico. The blame is definitely not entirely theirs, but they certainly have not helped Chico when it comes to the very serious alcohol problem here. My point is they are not simply benevolent, to solve this problem of culture and excessive student deaths we must be realistic and honest and seek out solutions that will work. Time to get tough because I am tired of the deaths, the litter on the river, the diversion of city resources and dodging the puke puddles on a Saturday morning if I want to go downtown for some breakfast.
Thanks for your post. I appreciate it. I think you make some very good points again and make another good contribution to the discussion. I hope others will pick up on it. Thanks again. Be well.

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