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annoyed

Paradise, CA

#771 Feb 22, 2013
one is dumb wrote:
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As long as there are states where gang -bangers can buy guns and then drive across state lines where it's illegal for them to own those guns it'll happen.
Ever hear the saying "a chain is only as strong as its weakest link"?
Sure, I've heard it. And it makes good sense...as far as it goes. How many of the recent mass killing weapons were obtained at gun shows (etc.) in other states???? The answer is NONE.

And guess what.....If I were a husband and father living in an urban ghetto (as millions and millions do in all of our largest cities) and if I had a cousin (or whatever) visiting from Mississippi who had an extra handgun I would purchase it to be able to defend myself and my family.

We ALL know about the levels of crime in these areas; and we all know these same huge cities do everything they can to make it impossible for these poor people to own guns, while at the same time being unable to provide for their safety. So the way I see it THEY force people to break the law to provide for their own and their family's safety.

I've yet to see verifiable figures from the gov that convince me more guns were obtained at gun shows than those given freely to the criminals by our own government.

How come Obama doesn't shed a little tear once-in-a-while for the kids he's killed with his drones? Too much effort? Two faced sob!
one is dumb

Lincoln, CA

#772 Feb 27, 2013
annoyed wrote:
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Sure, I've heard it. And it makes good sense...as far as it goes. How many of the recent mass killing weapons were obtained at gun shows (etc.) in other states???? The answer is NONE.
And guess what.....If I were a husband and father living in an urban ghetto (as millions and millions do in all of our largest cities) and if I had a cousin (or whatever) visiting from Mississippi who had an extra handgun I would purchase it to be able to defend myself and my family.
We ALL know about the levels of crime in these areas; and we all know these same huge cities do everything they can to make it impossible for these poor people to own guns, while at the same time being unable to provide for their safety. So the way I see it THEY force people to break the law to provide for their own and their family's safety.
I've yet to see verifiable figures from the gov that convince me more guns were obtained at gun shows than those given freely to the criminals by our own government.
How come Obama doesn't shed a little tear once-in-a-while for the kids he's killed with his drones? Too much effort? Two faced sob!
I don't know how you got your "disconnect" butt haven't you noticed most of the mass murders were by righties or their family members from up -scale neighborhoods.
not quite true

United States

#773 Feb 27, 2013
annoyed wrote:
<quoted text>
Sure, I've heard it. And it makes good sense...as far as it goes. How many of the recent mass killing weapons were obtained at gun shows (etc.) in other states???? The answer is NONE.
And guess what.....If I were a husband and father living in an urban ghetto (as millions and millions do in all of our largest cities) and if I had a cousin (or whatever) visiting from Mississippi who had an extra handgun I would purchase it to be able to defend myself and my family.
We ALL know about the levels of crime in these areas; and we all know these same huge cities do everything they can to make it impossible for these poor people to own guns, while at the same time being unable to provide for their safety. So the way I see it THEY force people to break the law to provide for their own and their family's safety.
I've yet to see verifiable figures from the gov that convince me more guns were obtained at gun shows than those given freely to the criminals by our own government.
How come Obama doesn't shed a little tear once-in-a-while for the kids he's killed with his drones? Too much effort? Two faced sob!
The Newtown guns were bought in New Jersey.
annoyed

Redding, CA

#774 Feb 28, 2013
one is dumb wrote:
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I don't know how you got your "disconnect" butt haven't you noticed most of the mass murders were by righties or their family members from up -scale neighborhoods.
If you have actual information, why not just offer it to us??? If you just want to speak out of your ____ then please excuse me for interupting...just go on with your stupid rant. I've seen no such statistics and your blurry mental vision of the facts just doesn't cut it. Thanks anyway.
annoyed

Redding, CA

#775 Feb 28, 2013
not quite true wrote:
<quoted text>The Newtown guns were bought in New Jersey.
To avoid federal registration laws?????? Isn't this what we're talking about? The push for uniform registration, and the removal of "straw buyer loopholes" depends on being able to exhibit these issues as ongoing "significant" (quotes mine) issues damaging to our society. Although there have been recent headline creating news stories concerning weapons which were horrifying, there is no fear these have been "damaging to our society" as a whole.

If people and government truly want to preserve our society they should begin to pass federal laws reinstituting mental health programs in EVERY state. It's the OVERALL mental health of our society that needs repair, instead of only focusing our attention on a few sicker individuals and expecting this to solve our problems.
one is dumb

Lincoln, CA

#776 Feb 28, 2013
annoyed wrote:
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To avoid federal registration laws?????? Isn't this what we're talking about? The push for uniform registration, and the removal of "straw buyer loopholes" depends on being able to exhibit these issues as ongoing "significant" (quotes mine) issues damaging to our society. Although there have been recent headline creating news stories concerning weapons which were horrifying, there is no fear these have been "damaging to our society" as a whole.
If people and government truly want to preserve our society they should begin to pass federal laws reinstituting mental health programs in EVERY state. It's the OVERALL mental health of our society that needs repair, instead of only focusing our attention on a few sicker individuals and expecting this to solve our problems.
I must agree, you're on the money this time. Having every state and local government do their own thing is useless. What it means is that a chain is only as strong as its weakest link.

Problem with the mental health issue is that repubicans donít want governments keeping tabs on anyone except ex -felons.

A majority of Americans are of your mind but the righties wonít allow any votes in congress to initiate your proposals.
annoyed

Chico, CA

#777 Mar 1, 2013
annoyed wrote:

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To avoid federal registration laws?????? Isn't this what we're talking about? The push for uniform registration, and the removal of "straw buyer loopholes" depends on being able to exhibit these issues as ongoing "significant" (quotes mine) issues damaging to our society. Although there have been recent headline creating news stories concerning weapons which were horrifying, there is no fear these have been "damaging to our society" as a whole.
If people and government truly want to preserve our society they should begin to pass federal laws reinstituting mental health programs in EVERY state. It's the OVERALL mental health of our society that needs repair, instead of only focusing our attention on a few sicker individuals and expecting this to solve our problems.
one is dumb wrote:
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I must agree, you're on the money this time. Having every state and local government do their own thing is useless. What it means is that a chain is only as strong as its weakest link.
Problem with the mental health issue is that repubicans donít want governments keeping tabs on anyone except ex -felons.
A majority of Americans are of your mind but the righties wonít allow any votes in congress to initiate your proposals.
I'm not up on how many republicans don't want people keeping tabs on them but romney sure got a burr under his saddle when the question of past income tax returns came up:)

I think it will be a while before we see anything that looks remotely like comprehensive mental health reform in ths country. Mental health has always been "the red haired step child" of the insurance company health programs, either avoided entirely or with diminished coverage. And then there are the huge costs involved (on top of present "Obamacare" costs) which will need support from not just politicians but the public as well. Will this happen? While I'm still alive?

Obama has given a mandate to the CDC to treat gun violence as an illness (sounds to me like "1984"). The problem with this is the outragous behaviour by the CDC and other health officials when this happened before. It seemed some people interpreted this to mean they should investigate the personal details of a family based on nothing else besides gun ownership (too intrusive by 100%). If this time the issue were treated in a professional manner the benefits could be directed toward those who truly need the help.

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