Obama gets his wish...

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Progun

Chico, CA

#1 Dec 29, 2012
How convenient, he is refusing to cooperate to solve the fiscal cliff issue, now EVERYONE gets a tax increase! Obviously this was his secret agenda anyway. So to all you "progressive" assholes that voted for that criminal, thanks a fkn lot! You should be fkn ashamed. Do yourselves a favor if you want some TRUTH and Google "Bill Whittle Number Six"
Progun

Chico, CA

#2 Dec 30, 2012
Bill Wittle is a genius!
GRANDPA NICOLAI

Chico, CA

#3 Dec 31, 2012
Progun wrote:
How convenient, he is refusing to cooperate to solve the fiscal cliff issue, now EVERYONE gets a tax increase! Obviously this was his secret agenda anyway. So to all you "progressive" assholes that voted for that criminal, thanks a fkn lot! You should be fkn ashamed. Do yourselves a favor if you want some TRUTH and Google "Bill Whittle Number Six"
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President OBAMA is the one who wants to keep taxes lower on all who make less than $250,000 a year....It is the T Publicans who would rather raise taxes on everyone just to keep the upper crust from paying 3% more in taxes.... But as always, all you conservatives spread your butt cheeks and voted the T baggers in... You asked for it, so why are you surprised to get the shaft...????

“Facts”

Since: May 08

Colima, Mexico

#4 Dec 31, 2012
GRANDPA NICOLAI wrote:
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President OBAMA is the one who wants to keep taxes lower on all who make less than $250,000 a year....It is the T Publicans who would rather raise taxes on everyone just to keep the upper crust from paying 3% more in taxes.... But as always, all you conservatives spread your butt cheeks and voted the T baggers in... You asked for it, so why are you surprised to get the shaft...????
It is morons like you that don't understand the rich and businesses never pay one penny in taxes

Raising the Walton's taxes will raise the price of everything bought from Walmart

Most small businesses earn more than 250k unless they are liberal owned....

But what do you expect from a moron that claims raising the cost of medical supplies will not raise the cost of them?????
Here is One

Condon, OR

#5 Dec 31, 2012
Progun wrote:
How convenient, he is refusing to cooperate to solve the fiscal cliff issue, now EVERYONE gets a tax increase! Obviously this was his secret agenda anyway. So to all you "progressive" assholes that voted for that criminal, thanks a fkn lot! You should be fkn ashamed. Do yourselves a favor if you want some TRUTH and Google "Bill Whittle Number Six"
Ahahahahahahaha, Ohohohohohohoho...THE CRIMINAL lives in PV Mexico.

Perhaps you should SELF DEPORT TOO!

GOT CAJONES?
Progun

Chico, CA

#6 Dec 31, 2012
That video is so right on! Love it :)
GRANDPA NICOLAI

Chico, CA

#7 Dec 31, 2012
Here Is One wrote:
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It is morons like you that don't understand the rich and businesses never pay one penny in taxes
Raising the Walton's taxes will raise the price of everything bought from Walmart
Most small businesses earn more than 250k unless they are liberal owned....
But what do you expect from a moron that claims raising the cost of medical supplies will not raise the cost of them?????
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Good....

If "the rich and business never pay one penny in taxes" then there should be no problems in raising marginal rates on the rich to 90% like they were in the 50's 60's and 70's when the economy boomed and with only one family member working the middle class could afford to buy a house, a car and put the kids through college...LMAO

Most small businesses are mom and pop operations and earn less than $250K

But we can expect nothing but lies from a moron who claims Catholics are not Christians.....
Repubicans make me puke

Lincoln, CA

#8 Dec 31, 2012
GRANDPA NICOLAI wrote:
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Good....
If "the rich and business never pay one penny in taxes" then there should be no problems in raising marginal rates on the rich to 90% like they were in the 50's 60's and 70's when the economy boomed and with only one family member working the middle class could afford to buy a house, a car and put the kids through college...LMAO
Most small businesses are mom and pop operations and earn less than $250K
But we can expect nothing but lies from a moron who claims Catholics are not Christians.....
On the money Gramps!

As of right now, there is an agreement so as usual progun shot his wad prematurely.

“Facts”

Since: May 08

Colima, Mexico

#9 Jan 1, 2013
GRANDPA NICOLAI wrote:
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Good....

If "the rich and business never pay one penny in taxes" then there should be no problems in raising marginal rates on the rich to 90% like they were in the 50's 60's and 70's when the economy boomed and with only one family member working the middle class could afford to buy a house, a car and put the kids through college...LMAO

Most small businesses are mom and pop operations and earn less than $250K

But we can expect nothing but lies from a moron who claims Catholics are not Christians.....
Yes morons don't understand that would triple the price of everything you buy in months

And in less then a year those prices would double when the 10 dollar gas prices hit

But that is what liberals want as they know only the poor and stupid vote liberal

“Facts”

Since: May 08

Colima, Mexico

#10 Jan 1, 2013
Repubicans make me puke wrote:
<quoted text>On the money Gramps!

As of right now, there is an agreement so as usual progun shot his wad prematurely.
10-4 rubber ducky
Local

Clearlake, CA

#11 Jan 1, 2013
While Obama and Democrats may come out in public as wanting to find a compromise to solve the pending tax hikes and spending cuts that automatically kick in next week, they are likely fully aware how beneficial it will be for them to keep going full steam ahead.

The biggest reason that they want to go over, and must claim that they want compromise, is because most Americans will blame the Republicans for going over [1]. If going over tanks the economy (as most economists think it will), Democrats will make out like bandits in the 2014 midterm election. This is vital for them, since historically, a president"s 2nd midterm (their 6th year in office) has been bad news for their party. Every two term president (aside from Clinton, who only gained 4 seats in congress) has lost significant seats in both houses going back to FDR (and that was because I didn"t go further back than Truman). Normally, it would be likely for the republicans to take a number of seats and possibly take the Senate (or at least get them much further from being able to do anything), especially given that most of the seats running are Democrats (20 of the 33). Should the democrats hold and even do well in 2014, that sets them up for a major leap in 2016 (when 24 or 34 seats for election are Republicans).

The next reason is because after going over the cliff, the Republicans will not have their prime reason for not compromising, "no higher taxes." Right now, Obama and the Democrats want higher taxes for middle and lower classes, and let them go even higher for the higher earners. But most Republicans are not accepting any of those deals because they see those deals as hurting the economy. However, once taxes have been raised automatically, they can no longer cling to "we won"t sign anything that will raise someone"s taxes." After the cliff, they will be the ones refusing tax cuts for Americans, which will only further polarize them and drive people away. Should they give in after the cliff, it will only send the message that the Democrats were right all along and that will cost them as well. They will be caught in a catch 22.

The final reason is because going over the fiscal cliff is being made a much bigger deal than it really is. Since Congress can apply tax cuts retro-actively [2], there is actually very little damage done by them not agreeing right now. True, once we go over, employers will begin withholding at the higher rate, and you won"t get that money back until 2014, when you file for taxes, but that is miniscule for most Americans, and certainly not as big of a deal as what it is made out to be. One can speculate on the reason that this is being blown so out of portion (could be because it so well helps the democrats and many believe that the media is heavily biased in the democrat"s favor), but that can be a different post for a different day.
The end result????
Taxes are going up in a very big way.......the democrat solution to EVERYTHING.....more gov't revenue to spend.
Bob

Paradise, CA

#12 Jan 1, 2013
LOL, HIO is so full of sht it is comming out of his ears. Just like months ago he told us gas prices were going to go above $5 or how Romney was going to win by a landslide.

Careerbuilder.com : Reports the average Small business owner salary is $36,266

Payscale.com : The average small business owner reports a yearly salary of between $36,000 and $75,000 a year.

U.S. Census, 2007 report of income by source of income: The average amount of self-employment income reported per taxpayer is $31,246. 12.5 million people filed, 1,324,000 reported incomes above $250,000.

Bureau of Labor Statistics: Doctors, lawyers, engineers, and sales managers show an average in range of $100,000-$150,000, but not near $250,000. Not one category is showing an average income of over $250,000 a year.

I guess most small business owners are liberal.
GRANDPA NICOLAI

Chico, CA

#13 Jan 1, 2013
Here Is One wrote:
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Yes morons don't understand that would triple the price of everything you buy in months
And in less then a year those prices would double when the 10 dollar gas prices hit
But that is what liberals want as they know only the poor and stupid vote liberal
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Sure the prices of everything will triple.... on your planet.

The prices did not triple when marginal tax rates on the wealthy were 90%....

But in those days the CEOs were making about 15 to 20 times what the average worker made, today the CEO's make 200 to 300 times what the average worker pulls in a year...

That's what the conservatives want, the rich to get richer while the middle class gets screwed....

“Facts”

Since: May 08

Colima, Mexico

#14 Jan 1, 2013
Bob wrote:
LOL, HIO is so full of sht it is comming out of his ears. Just like months ago he told us gas prices were going to go above $5 or how Romney was going to win by a landslide.

Careerbuilder.com : Reports the average Small business owner salary is $36,266

Payscale.com : The average small business owner reports a yearly salary of between $36,000 and $75,000 a year.

U.S. Census, 2007 report of income by source of income: The average amount of self-employment income reported per taxpayer is $31,246. 12.5 million people filed, 1,324,000 reported incomes above $250,000.

Bureau of Labor Statistics: Doctors, lawyers, engineers, and sales managers show an average in range of $100,000-$150,000, but not near $250,000. Not one category is showing an average income of over $250,000 a year.

I guess most small business owners are liberal.
So why don't you post links troll???

Besides the fact you are a liar???

“Facts”

Since: May 08

Colima, Mexico

#15 Jan 1, 2013
GRANDPA NICOLAI wrote:
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Sure the prices of everything will triple.... on your planet.

The prices did not triple when marginal tax rates on the wealthy were 90%....

But in those days the CEOs were making about 15 to 20 times what the average worker made, today the CEO's make 200 to 300 times what the average worker pulls in a year...

That's what the conservatives want, the rich to get richer while the middle class gets screwed....
What business is it what I or any other company pay their help as long as it meets minimum wage standards???

Why do liberals hate anyone that has more than them???
Bob

Paradise, CA

#16 Jan 1, 2013
LOL you act like a little girl.

Here is a link for you: http://allpsych.com/psychology101/defenses.ht...
Here Is One wrote:
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So why don't you post links troll???
Besides the fact you are a liar???

“Facts”

Since: May 08

Colima, Mexico

#17 Jan 1, 2013
Bob wrote:
<quoted text>LOL you act like a little girl.

Here is a link for you: http://allpsych.com/psychology101/defenses.ht...
Proving you a lying troll would cause you to feel that way
TWP

Iowa Park, TX

#18 Jan 1, 2013
Bob wrote:
LOL...
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Hey Bob... Here is a link for you:
http://www.merrystandish.com/dolanloses.html

LOL...
GRANDPA NICOLAI

Chico, CA

#19 Jan 1, 2013
Here Is One wrote:
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What business is it what I or any other company pay their help as long as it meets minimum wage standards???
Why do liberals hate anyone that has more than them???
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Because neither you nor the companies pay your employees..... wages, bonuses, benefits, taxes etc are all passed down to the final consumer.....

Liberals don't hate anyone that has more than they do, liberals hate those who rip them off...
GRANDPA NICOLAI

Chico, CA

#20 Jan 1, 2013
Here Is One wrote:
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Proving you a lying troll would cause you to feel that way
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The only lying troll here is you and your fat assed sister TWP who always comes to your defense....

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