Ray Holder

[rabbit1970]

I know he cannot keep a job. He has had 66 in the 12 years that I have known him. He wants to know who I am finding out my info from but even id I knew I would not tell him. He currently thinks that his child support for our three kids has been stopped however it is still running strong. I plan on pressing charges for felony nonsupport as soon as I get the time. I will be in Gtown on the 24 to take my son to the orthodontist. If you want me to meet with the family let me know, will only be there for a short period of time. Let me worry about him. I learned along time ago how to take out his sorry ass. But a they say keep your friends close and your enemies closer.

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rabbit1970 wrote:

I know he cannot keep a job. He has had 66 in the 12 years that I have known him. He wants to know who I am finding out my info from but even id I knew I would not tell him. He currently thinks that his child support for our three kids has been stopped however it is still running strong. I plan on pressing charges for felony nonsupport as soon as I get the time. I will be in Gtown on the 24 to take my son to the orthodontist. If you want me to meet with the family let me know, will only be there for a short period of time. Let me worry about him. I learned along time ago how to take out his sorry ass. But a they say keep your friends close and your enemies closer.

the family is seeing a lawyer today...I will have Gelinda get in contact with you over this...she would love to talk to you about it

[rabbit1970]

I alreAdy know Glenda we use to work together at Burger King. She is agreatt woman. In my opinion the judge that allowed the oldest one to go back to Renee and Ray should be brought up for review. Glenda was the person that I went through to set up visitationswhen we lived in Georgetown to see this child. He did the same thing then he does to did to our children cancelled or never should up. Would be more than happy to help her to get the boys out of that unsafe house. Listen That man shattered my winshield with two of our children inside. I know fully what he is capable of.

[rabbit1970]

All right. here is a question for whoever you are. Ray is supposedly suppose to be in Louisville for court next week. Is thi true or not. If not what would he want $250 for to pay a lawyer. Don't plan on giving it to him, because i think he wants it to pay for one to defend themselves against Glenda.

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rabbit1970 wrote:

All right. here is a question for whoever you are. Ray is supposedly suppose to be in Louisville for court next week. Is thi true or not. If not what would he want $250 for to pay a lawyer. Don't plan on giving it to him, because i think he wants it to pay for one to defend themselves against Glenda.

Well that question is a good one...Unless he got arrested on the charge for child support in Lousiville, I know they was trying to arrest him on a warrant and it might be to get a new car, since theres was repo'd. I am not sure, the family have not brought up more charges on him, we are still looking into things, I know that they are being investigated by Social Services and other law enforcements. So think about this, I think his wife has outstanding fines...so maybe she was arrested and he needs to get her out...But Glenda says she knows you and would like to talk to you....I will see when she is coming back here....

[rabbit1970]

Tell Glenda hello fo me. In my opinion she was great with the oldest one, and I will do everything to help her out. The lawyer he said is Steve Webber I think, any clue who he might be have not been able to find him. I have not seen Glenda since my 8 year old was a baby an she still had custody. Still begs to answer how did Ray get out of Paying $5000 in child support to her. He says she waived it and I find that hard to believe.

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I will find out for you...Plus they told her that at the time they was married so the Judge said that since both biological parents are together that he was giving that child back. So we have found out that at the time they was not married and we are looking into getting them in trouble for lying to the courts. The oldest wants to live ith Gelinda and the youngest wants to live with his dad and step-mom because lets face it theyar treate better by family members than their own parents. The youngest father is going to court to get custody on the 9th of December. I think that they only wnat those kids around to get money. They are about to get kicked out of there house because he will not work, he is a deadbeat that needs to man up and take care of his kids. If you lye down and mke 5 kids support them or keep your dick to yourself. Also be a man and stop beating on women and children because they are defenseless. I think that he is a fat nasty slob who needs to get a job and stop having so many and take care of your family and kids. So most likely he has no lawyer in Louisville because I looked it up on the intenet and no lawyers by that name pop up. It might be for a car or even get her fines paid. They need to let them kids go with people who will love them, support them and not push them into harms way but protect them. THey both need to have the kids best interest at heart and stop thinking of themselves or beating on them.

[rabbit1970]

By now I am going to ASSUME that you are a member of or a close friend of the family. Ray and Renee were married on august 11 2007. They day before we were suppose tobe married. Yes he was engaged when he married he. Now has he been faithful to her during their marriage. I do know this, as I said before keep your friends close and your enemies closer. I don't know anything about money on the boys. and Ray told me the youngest ones dad was dead. I assume was another one of his lies. As far as best interest goes Ray only has his at heart. the man is always asking me for money. To pay fines in cynthiana or to pay fo his court ordered anger management classes he was ordered to take by a Scott counbty judge after he and her got in a fight at walmart and the youngest ones face was cut open. Tell the youngest ones dad to look into hospital records on him. He has been in the ER several times over the past couple of years that I know of.

[rabbit1970]

Sorry meant to sat that he has not been faithful to her during thier marriage.

[rabbit1970]

check into domestic violence order against Ray over the past couple of years.

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The youngest ones dad is not dead, he gets him on Wednesdays and every other weekend. I am a very close friend who knows everything about this case. THe father and step-mother have contacted everyone in this avenue, hired a lawyer....So time will tell he and her are telling people that they are moving to cynthiana.....

[rabbit1970]

Who is moving to Cynthiana. Like I said have him check into Er recordson Z. I know my daughter when she was seeing her dad before I called Social Serives on him for leaving them with her alone said that Z. had to be taken to the Er several times for mysterios reasons (injuries). The injuries to his face Ray did with a key several years ago.That would be about all I could tell you on that one. He has changed the lawyers name to Stan Wilson in Louisville, according to his profile he handle business and immigration law. Anything wlse going on that you know of.

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Who knows...I think he knows that if he touches the youngest one again that dad with get him.....they are both moving to cynthiana according to the boys,...but they dont even have a car to ge anywhere....who knows....good luck, we can team up together and get hese two out of our lives

[rabbit1970]

I told him I knew about him moveing to Cynthiana. He says he has no idea what she is doing. Let me know if there is anything I can do to help and i will.

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Thanks, we might be caling on you...keep your kids safe from them and we will try to keep the other 2 safe from him....

[rabbit1970]

My kids are not going anywhere near them. Louisville might be putting him jail soon though fo nonsupport.

[rabbit1970]

Who does the jack Russel belong to? He said it was his nephew's when I heard the dog bark on the phone.

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Well I think it is their's I thought it was taken away from them along with the other 2 dogs. Glenda told me to tellyou that she is going to be in town on the 24th and would like to meet with you. She said you set the time and the place. Just put on her and she will get it. Think about this, if he needed a lawyer to get him out of child support issues, or even help him fight this abuse charges that are pending thenit would be more than 250.00. Most lawyers want a retainer of 750 or more. SO he is probably needing that money to either pay his fine off or hers. Thanks for your concern about these kids....as parents you are suppost to protect and keep them from harms way why would you do things to put them in all this. Have a good day

[blurgrass]

I have to be there at the orthodontis at nine by microtel. He won't be there very long, so let me know beforehand I will wait for a short period of time, but I have school that day and I have a 2 hour drive from Gtown to maysville. The lawyer called me yesterday and got my voicemail, the $250 was for a retainer.

[rabbit1970]

Bluegrass is me in another town, sorry about the confusion