School Board to Pay in Jesus Prayer Suit

School Board to Pay in Jesus Prayer Suit

There are 64 comments on the www.nytimes.com story from Feb 28, 2008, titled School Board to Pay in Jesus Prayer Suit. In it, www.nytimes.com reports that:

A Delaware school district has agreed to revise its policies on religion as part of a settlement with two Jewish families who had sued over the pervasiveness of Christian prayer and other religious activities ...

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“Poke the bear at your own risk”

Since: Sep 07

Broomfield, CO

#62 Mar 31, 2008
Neutral in DE wrote:
The Iggy better read the Constitution. There is no mention of "separation of church and state" anywhere in it. The author of the phrase is Thomas Jefferson, in a letter to Ben Franklin during the framing of the Constitution. By the way, Jefferson wasn't even in America when the Constitution was written. He was posted as an ambassador to France. His fear was not that the christian church would take over the government but that the government would force its own religion on the church. That's why they had fought to be free of England. Go read the writings of our founding fathers. It is very disturbing to see how far we are from the ideals and dreams they left for us. By the way, I was there, sat behind the Dobrichs, and spoke at the public meeting. There were no lawyers for the school there, but the national representatives for the ACLU were. Oh, and so were the State Police, who were forced to attend by the ACLU because there would surely be violence. There was NONE. Everyone who wanted to speak got a chance, no one interrupted them, no one threatened them. The only antagonists in the room where the ACLU. The school district has always allowed student led prayer in compliance with federal statute. Did you know that the ACLU gets paid twice each time they go to court, win or lose? Their opponent, usually a government entity, pays their legal fees either way, which means your tax money at work. And they are subsidized millions of dollars by us, the taxpayers. Sweet deal, huh?
Just keep it out of PUBLIC FEDERALLY FUNDED SCHOOLS. If it would have been done correctly then our tax dollars wouldn't be paying the ACLU then. If they want to pray, let them pray elsewhere, not a public school or public school event.

I know what the constitution reads and HOW IT HAS BEEN interperted by the Supreme Court, which is NOT IN FAVOR of ANY religeous prayer at PUBLICLY FUNDED school events. They deserved EXACTLY what the received. They should have known better, period.
Neutral in DE

Philadelphia, PA

#63 Apr 2, 2008
The Iggy wrote:
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Just keep it out of PUBLIC FEDERALLY FUNDED SCHOOLS. If it would have been done correctly then our tax dollars wouldn't be paying the ACLU then. If they want to pray, let them pray elsewhere, not a public school or public school event.
I know what the constitution reads and HOW IT HAS BEEN interperted by the Supreme Court, which is NOT IN FAVOR of ANY religeous prayer at PUBLICLY FUNDED school events. They deserved EXACTLY what the received. They should have known better, period.
The First Amendment: "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances."
The Supreme Court has "interpreted" this amendment to apply to all government entities. "Interpretation" is much like "assumption", especially when your interpretation is based on another person's interpretation instead of the original document. How can the court say that only the "supreme court" has the right to prohibit the free excersize of religion. If I have the right to say anything I wish in public, why can't I pray if I so choose? I can cuss up a storm, slander anyone I choose in person, in the media, on the internet and be perfectly within my constitutional and supreme court rights. But if I mention the word "Jesus" in reverence instead of cursing I have violated the first amendment. If the court has this right under the first amendment, don't they also have the right to "abridge" the media,free speech, the press, and also the right to peaceably assemble and petition the government for redress of grievances? Be careful what you give away. It is nearly impossible to regain.

“Gun toting liberal”

Since: Nov 07

Wilmington

#64 Apr 2, 2008
Neutral in DE wrote:
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The First Amendment: "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances."
The Supreme Court has "interpreted" this amendment to apply to all government entities. "Interpretation" is much like "assumption", especially when your interpretation is based on another person's interpretation instead of the original document. How can the court say that only the "supreme court" has the right to prohibit the free excersize of religion. If I have the right to say anything I wish in public, why can't I pray if I so choose? I can cuss up a storm, slander anyone I choose in person, in the media, on the internet and be perfectly within my constitutional and supreme court rights. But if I mention the word "Jesus" in reverence instead of cursing I have violated the first amendment. If the court has this right under the first amendment, don't they also have the right to "abridge" the media,free speech, the press, and also the right to peaceably assemble and petition the government for redress of grievances? Be careful what you give away. It is nearly impossible to regain.
If you were to "cuss up a storm, slander anyone I choose in person..." over the loudspeaker at a school function, you would be escorted out, or simply fired later if you were a school employee.

The Supreme Court's interpretation of law is a legal extension of the constitution's prohibition of a state-sponsored religion. Your own wishful interpretation of the constitution is not binding.

“Poke the bear at your own risk”

Since: Sep 07

Grand Junction, CO

#65 Apr 2, 2008
Neutral in DE wrote:
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The First Amendment: "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances."
The Supreme Court has "interpreted" this amendment to apply to all government entities. "Interpretation" is much like "assumption", especially when your interpretation is based on another person's interpretation instead of the original document. How can the court say that only the "supreme court" has the right to prohibit the free excersize of religion. If I have the right to say anything I wish in public, why can't I pray if I so choose? I can cuss up a storm, slander anyone I choose in person, in the media, on the internet and be perfectly within my constitutional and supreme court rights. But if I mention the word "Jesus" in reverence instead of cursing I have violated the first amendment. If the court has this right under the first amendment, don't they also have the right to "abridge" the media,free speech, the press, and also the right to peaceably assemble and petition the government for redress of grievances? Be careful what you give away. It is nearly impossible to regain.
If you want to pray go ahead, do it in silence, in your church, not leading the school function in one. Not using the school function a publicilly funded school function to ENDORSE your religeon.

Go pray all you want, keep it out of the public event. If you want to pray at the public event keep it to yourself and not over the loud speaker. The school district was wrong, and your tax dollars will pay the ACLU and the penalty. If you don't want your tax money going there then stand up & stop what is not allowed.

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