Driver accused of killing SUNY Geneseo student Kaitlin Charity ...

His lawyer says he's being wrongly accused. The truck driver charged in the death of a SUNY Geneseo student was arraigned today and pleaded not guilty to leaving the scene of an accident and perjury. Full Story
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zippy

Rochester, NY

#25 Sep 9, 2008
MKLADY wrote:
Gross misuse of authority if you ask me.
with the expection of one that I've met, all state troopers in the southern tier are flaming douche bags...
kates friend

Bronx, NY

#26 Nov 10, 2008
thats what i did i googled her name... thanks to all you insensitive people who had to add shit comments to this.... i hate everyone that has to do with this shit...
i love you kate and miss you
Hairy Rod

Churchville, NY

#27 Nov 11, 2008
Maybe she was seeing one of the troopers ? is that what someone here is saying ??
Patrioy Chilly Willie

Churchville, NY

#28 Nov 11, 2008
kates friend wrote:
thats what i did i googled her name... thanks to all you insensitive people who had to add shit comments to this.... i hate everyone that has to do with this shit...
i love you kate and miss you
Was she seeing a trooper ?
mei

Rochester, NY

#29 Nov 11, 2008
i was told that when the trooper left her on the side of the road it was to pull over another speeder which was found to be another officer and of course was let go with no tickets.
Bobby

Portland, ME

#30 Nov 15, 2008
The trooper was at fault. The trooper who stopped her had the responsibility of making sure the woman got back into her car and out onto the highway safely. The trooper should be brought up on involunary manslaughter charges, as he alone, allowed the woman to be hit and killed by the first driver going by her,and all of the troopers having to take training on an ongoing basis to help stop this in the future. Mr. Moran, we, the citizens of your county want you fired, so if I were you, I would walk very carefully.
Role of Trooper wrote:
I, for the life of me, cannot figure out why the Trooper who pulled the victim over for speeding is not being held accountable?!
I have been in Law Enforcement for 20+ years. It IS the responsibility of the officer doing the traffic stop to ensure that the driver & their vehicle that he/she pulls over re-enters the highway safely. No "ifs ands or buts".... Unless he was persuing a murder/rape suspect, the trooper had no business leaving a YOUNG WOMAN alone on the highway in the dark!
And, where's this alleged highspeeder that the trooper ditched her to persue, anyway???What were they charged with? Rumor has it that it ended up being someone the Trooper knew and let go without a summons.
Then there's the issue that the trooper alleges that the victim was going to the side of the road to "relieve herself" before he pulled away...WHAT?? That's clearly illegal...Public Lewdness! HELLO?!?!? Why was the trooper permitting her to do that in the 1st place??! Not too mention there was a rest area up the road...that she would have been VERY familiar with having been a student at SUNY Geneseo for FOUR years! Why on earth would she WANT to pee on the side of the road? c'mon....
There's something "off" about this entire scenerio here, folks!I can't be the only one who sees it!
I respect police officers and the dangerous job they do, & ordinarilly don't pass judgement on them. But they're not God, and they make mistakes. And, I don't think they're held accountable for them.
Maybe the trooper bumped her in his rush to catch this speeder and panicked...Maybe he was the FIRST...and the trucker was next and didn't know what he hit... hmmm
Wrong Death Law suit against the Trooper?? heck yeah! I hope the victim's family researches their options.
PS: About the trooper that killed the woman while responding to the home invasion just weeks prior to this tragedy -- I know that there is a total lack of regard on the part of some drivers to obey the law by pulling over, and stopping, when a police car is either coming up from behind, or approaching from on-coming traffic. I have witnessed it myself.
But, I have also, TOO many times, been passed by troopers & deputy sheriffs, travelling at a high rates of speed in the dark, with NO bar lights on, much less a siren..and I didn't see them til they were right up on my bumper. Scares the crap out of anyone... Could THIS have been the case in this tragedy?
I sincerely hope that ALL avenues are researched & investigated in these tragedies. Cops aren't beyond reproach! I hope victims' families & attorney's ask the right questions to the right people. I hope accused defendants, if truly innocent, are given the true benefit of the doubt, are treated innocent until PROVEN guilty, like our justice system is DESIGNED to work.
Again folks...Troopers & Deputies are not the same elite group of people they were 20-30 years ago...too many standards have been lowered to accomodate minority requirments. Just like any other professions, there are bad seeds. We, the public are paying the price...
john doe

Batavia, NY

#31 Jan 15, 2009
HUH wrote:
Did I read this right? HIS lawyer says he's not the brightest star in the sky??? Despite what I think about what the guy did, this hardly seems like the appropriate thing for someone's attorney to say!
hey everyone..i just want to let you all know i was on the grand jury for that case and in my opinion that accident was mostly his fault..i lied on several occasions to the grand jury..thats what he is being charged with..you know it alls have no idea what really happend so let kaitlyn rest in peace
john doe

Batavia, NY

#32 Jan 15, 2009
KillTheLazy wrote:
Just to confirm. Her last act as a living, breathing human being was taking a massive (record breaking) crap on the grass line right next to her car. And that is the truth. Confirmed by the officer from the medical examiners office who picked the young lady up.
hey KillTheLazy any time you feel like getting strong ill give you my address and ill show you how it feels to get hit by a truck ok tough guy?
David

Rochester, NY

#33 Jan 15, 2009
I want one of the rescue vehicles you drive.
No rescue vehicle travels faster than the speed of sound. Maybe so modified racing vehicle of some kind might, but unlikely.
Sound travels 767.58 mph or about one mile in five seconds.
Not even an interceptor goes that fast.
Volunteer Fire Fighter wrote:
I have to agree that the lady who got killed on her way home by a trooper responding to a request for help for a home invasion may not have been at fault. Although a vehicle may have lights and sirens the dont do any good if you are traveling at a high rate of speed. Sound will only travel so fast and you can be going so fast that a your siren cant be heard till you are right on top of someone if at all. I have seen this at times with the county Advanced life support units in my county I have been out side and can see them but cant hear their sien as clear b/c they are going faster than the sound of their siern can travel. and with the lights someone may not see them right away b/c you are on a bend of road ect. And I agree that she may not have knowen that he was approching her till it was to late and she could have aready had the wheel turned and in the process of turning. Anyways who is going to actualy pull over if they are in the process of turning they will compleate their turn b/c no one wants to have stop turning and go beyond their turn just to pull over and have to try to find some where to turn around. I have had a trooper spook me once when I went to pass a car one time I had looked in my mirrors about a min before and saw nothing and I pass b/c they were going 40 in a 55mph zone and as I was passed all of a sudden I heard a siren and I was still in the process of compleating the pass, and it scared the day lights out of me.
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DAD

United States

#34 Jan 16, 2009
Thanks to those whose comments are genuine, constructive, and sensitive. To the rest, I can only hope it won't be your daughter that's being written about in the obits or this forum. It's not over til its over. I miss you, babe. Love, DAD.
Manuel Labore

Lady Lake, FL

#35 Jan 17, 2009
Face it, she was an adult, she was speeding, she got a ticket. The cop was doing his job. SHE decided to leave the safety of her car for whatever reason, did not assess the traffic situation and got hit by a thoughtless and reckless driver. He wanted to give her privacy, possibly while she relived herself. Simple case, a tragedy but don't second guess anyones motives. I feel deeply sorry for this young woman and her family.
Manuel Labore

Lady Lake, FL

#36 Jan 17, 2009
Role of Trooper wrote:
I, for the life of me, cannot figure out why the Trooper who pulled the victim over for speeding is not being held accountable?!
I have been in Law Enforcement for 20+ years. It IS the responsibility of the officer doing the traffic stop to ensure that the driver & their vehicle that he/she pulls over re-enters the highway safely. No "ifs ands or buts".... Unless he was persuing a murder/rape suspect, the trooper had no business leaving a YOUNG WOMAN alone on the highway in the dark!
And, where's this alleged highspeeder that the trooper ditched her to persue, anyway???What were they charged with? Rumor has it that it ended up being someone the Trooper knew and let go without a summons.
Then there's the issue that the trooper alleges that the victim was going to the side of the road to "relieve herself" before he pulled away...WHAT?? That's clearly illegal...Public Lewdness! HELLO?!?!? Why was the trooper permitting her to do that in the 1st place??! Not too mention there was a rest area up the road...that she would have been VERY familiar with having been a student at SUNY Geneseo for FOUR years! Why on earth would she WANT to pee on the side of the road? c'mon....
There's something "off" about this entire scenerio here, folks!I can't be the only one who sees it!
I respect police officers and the dangerous job they do, & ordinarilly don't pass judgement on them. But they're not God, and they make mistakes. And, I don't think they're held accountable for them.
Maybe the trooper bumped her in his rush to catch this speeder and panicked...Maybe he was the FIRST...and the trucker was next and didn't know what he hit... hmmm
Wrong Death Law suit against the Trooper?? heck yeah! I hope the victim's family researches their options.
PS: About the trooper that killed the woman while responding to the home invasion just weeks prior to this tragedy -- I know that there is a total lack of regard on the part of some drivers to obey the law by pulling over, and stopping, when a police car is either coming up from behind, or approaching from on-coming traffic. I have witnessed it myself.
But, I have also, TOO many times, been passed by troopers & deputy sheriffs, travelling at a high rates of speed in the dark, with NO bar lights on, much less a siren..and I didn't see them til they were right up on my bumper. Scares the crap out of anyone... Could THIS have been the case in this tragedy?
I sincerely hope that ALL avenues are researched & investigated in these tragedies. Cops aren't beyond reproach! I hope victims' families & attorney's ask the right questions to the right people. I hope accused defendants, if truly innocent, are given the true benefit of the doubt, are treated innocent until PROVEN guilty, like our justice system is DESIGNED to work.
Again folks...Troopers & Deputies are not the same elite group of people they were 20-30 years ago...too many standards have been lowered to accomodate minority requirments. Just like any other professions, there are bad seeds. We, the public are paying the price...
Well, any cop who does not how to spell PURSUE, you don't. is not really a cop. Plz tell us what NYS V&T section states a trooper/officer must stsy with a violator until he/she get ready to depart from a traffic stop. Your no cop!!
Manuel Labore

Lady Lake, FL

#37 Jan 17, 2009
Role of Trooper wrote:
I, for the life of me, cannot figure out why the Trooper who pulled the victim over for speeding is not being held accountable?!
I have been in Law Enforcement for 20+ years. It IS the responsibility of the officer doing the traffic stop to ensure that the driver & their vehicle that he/she pulls over re-enters the highway safely. No "ifs ands or buts".... Unless he was persuing a murder/rape suspect, the trooper had no business leaving a YOUNG WOMAN alone on the highway in the dark!
And, where's this alleged highspeeder that the trooper ditched her to persue, anyway???What were they charged with? Rumor has it that it ended up being someone the Trooper knew and let go without a summons.
Then there's the issue that the trooper alleges that the victim was going to the side of the road to "relieve herself" before he pulled away...WHAT?? That's clearly illegal...Public Lewdness! HELLO?!?!? Why was the trooper permitting her to do that in the 1st place??! Not too mention there was a rest area up the road...that she would have been VERY familiar with having been a student at SUNY Geneseo for FOUR years! Why on earth would she WANT to pee on the side of the road? c'mon....
There's something "off" about this entire scenerio here, folks!I can't be the only one who sees it!
I respect police officers and the dangerous job they do, & ordinarilly don't pass judgement on them. But they're not God, and they make mistakes. And, I don't think they're held accountable for them.
Maybe the trooper bumped her in his rush to catch this speeder and panicked...Maybe he was the FIRST...and the trucker was next and didn't know what he hit... hmmm
Wrong Death Law suit against the Trooper?? heck yeah! I hope the victim's family researches their options.
PS: About the trooper that killed the woman while responding to the home invasion just weeks prior to this tragedy -- I know that there is a total lack of regard on the part of some drivers to obey the law by pulling over, and stopping, when a police car is either coming up from behind, or approaching from on-coming traffic. I have witnessed it myself.
But, I have also, TOO many times, been passed by troopers & deputy sheriffs, travelling at a high rates of speed in the dark, with NO bar lights on, much less a siren..and I didn't see them til they were right up on my bumper. Scares the crap out of anyone... Could THIS have been the case in this tragedy?
I sincerely hope that ALL avenues are researched & investigated in these tragedies. Cops aren't beyond reproach! I hope victims' families & attorney's ask the right questions to the right people. I hope accused defendants, if truly innocent, are given the true benefit of the doubt, are treated innocent until PROVEN guilty, like our justice system is DESIGNED to work.
Again folks...Troopers & Deputies are not the same elite group of people they were 20-30 years ago...too many standards have been lowered to accomodate minority requirments. Just like any other professions, there are bad seeds. We, the public are paying the price...
Yes, you should check your NYSPL to review the elements of Public Lewedness!! It does not pertain to someone stopping on the side of the road, going into a private area to take care of natures call. A drunk pissing on main street or someone exposing is the intent of that section. You are not a cop, maybe a wannabe.
Manuel Labore

Lady Lake, FL

#38 Jan 17, 2009
Role of Trooper wrote:
I, for the life of me, cannot figure out why the Trooper who pulled the victim over for speeding is not being held accountable?!
I have been in Law Enforcement for 20+ years. It IS the responsibility of the officer doing the traffic stop to ensure that the driver & their vehicle that he/she pulls over re-enters the highway safely. No "ifs ands or buts".... Unless he was persuing a murder/rape suspect, the trooper had no business leaving a YOUNG WOMAN alone on the highway in the dark!
And, where's this alleged highspeeder that the trooper ditched her to persue, anyway???What were they charged with? Rumor has it that it ended up being someone the Trooper knew and let go without a summons.
Then there's the issue that the trooper alleges that the victim was going to the side of the road to "relieve herself" before he pulled away...WHAT?? That's clearly illegal...Public Lewdness! HELLO?!?!? Why was the trooper permitting her to do that in the 1st place??! Not too mention there was a rest area up the road...that she would have been VERY familiar with having been a student at SUNY Geneseo for FOUR years! Why on earth would she WANT to pee on the side of the road? c'mon....
There's something "off" about this entire scenerio here, folks!I can't be the only one who sees it!
I respect police officers and the dangerous job they do, & ordinarilly don't pass judgement on them. But they're not God, and they make mistakes. And, I don't think they're held accountable for them.
Maybe the trooper bumped her in his rush to catch this speeder and panicked...Maybe he was the FIRST...and the trucker was next and didn't know what he hit... hmmm
Wrong Death Law suit against the Trooper?? heck yeah! I hope the victim's family researches their options.
PS: About the trooper that killed the woman while responding to the home invasion just weeks prior to this tragedy -- I know that there is a total lack of regard on the part of some drivers to obey the law by pulling over, and stopping, when a police car is either coming up from behind, or approaching from on-coming traffic. I have witnessed it myself.
But, I have also, TOO many times, been passed by troopers & deputy sheriffs, travelling at a high rates of speed in the dark, with NO bar lights on, much less a siren..and I didn't see them til they were right up on my bumper. Scares the crap out of anyone... Could THIS have been the case in this tragedy?
I sincerely hope that ALL avenues are researched & investigated in these tragedies. Cops aren't beyond reproach! I hope victims' families & attorney's ask the right questions to the right people. I hope accused defendants, if truly innocent, are given the true benefit of the doubt, are treated innocent until PROVEN guilty, like our justice system is DESIGNED to work.
Again folks...Troopers & Deputies are not the same elite group of people they were 20-30 years ago...too many standards have been lowered to accomodate minority requirments. Just like any other professions, there are bad seeds. We, the public are paying the price...
Your ps, really gives you away. If you were really a cop you would know that many calls require a quick response without red lights/siren. You are also a racist, none of who really did the job thought we were elite. Most troopers worked and lived in the communities they were assigned. Most worked 2 jobs because cops don't make six figure salaries. Oh yes, none of us were black, white or hispanic, we were all BLUE or GRAY. You are a phoney!!!
Retired Major

Lady Lake, FL

#39 Jan 17, 2009
Manny, I guess we live near each other and I also think you are on target with your opinion of this 20 year police wannabe, as you put it. If you were with LCSO or NYSP you should remember Dansville, if you know what I mean brother.
Manuel Labore

Lady Lake, FL

#40 Jan 17, 2009
Major, 10-4, 1078 right??? See you at the next 1013 meeting.
Retired Major

Lady Lake, FL

#41 Jan 17, 2009
LOL, now I know you. Yup Dansville 1078, probobly a DVFD reject if you know who I mean?? Talk to you soon, guess we can't get away from it tpr.

10-7
Manuel Labore

Lady Lake, FL

#42 Jan 17, 2009
10-4 sir, I know who you are talking about, previous contacts, same MO. He must be an old man now but younger than us LOL too. Have a great night sir.

2253 10-7
Alyssa

Saratoga Springs, NY

#44 Mar 11, 2009
Kaitlin i miss you so much.
thank you to all of the kind comments on here, but to some of the insensitive jerks on here, you will get what you deserve.
i love and miss you kaitlin.
a close friend

Greenwich, CT

#45 Oct 26, 2010
I've known Kate since I was a little girl she had been extremely close with my sister. Kate was an amazing girl, how dare any of you imply that she was anything less. She wasn't reckless and for any of you to call her useless, stupid, or anything else YOU ARE IGNORANT. You didn't know Kate, especially not as well as I did. She lost her life. When she died all it was one of the saddest days of my life. Did none of you who posted these mean things realize, SHE HAD A FAMILY, SHE HAD FRIENDS, SHE HAD A BOYFRIEND, all of whom we're greatly affected by her death. If you didn't know Kate so who are you to judge her. Kate was always there for people, she was caring, and wonderful. If you don't approve of something about her that's fine, you have your right, but you shouldn't post it here, you shouldn't be purposely degrading someone who died how would you feel if one of your loved ones passed away and I went and wrote these awful things about him/her? You'd probably hate me for it, so don't do it to Kate. Maybe I'm 3 years late on saying this, I honestly wish I had seen this sooner, but either way you all need to be able to see this and realize what you said and its affect on others. I love you Kaitlin, rest in peace baby<3 you deserve only the best and I hope you're doing well wherever you are<3

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