Jimmy

South San Francisco, CA

#283 Apr 11, 2013
ZachJohnson wrote:
Pascagoula... How many days after your functional physical did it take to receive your call?
What did the fit for duty consist of?
Airplane watcher

Gautier, MS

#284 Apr 11, 2013
Jimmy wrote:
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What did the fit for duty consist of?
In terms of getting on @ Chevron? Who the heck knows. I know a woman who's 18 year son got a job there IMMEDIATELY after he graduated from Pascagoula High School. He didn't even bother going thru the Operator trade program @ the local junior college. Of course his uncle "knew" the right people @ Chevron.

You want a job there you'd better know the right people or they won't hire you.
Desi

Memphis, TN

#285 May 10, 2013
Hey, does anyone know the likelyhood of them contacting a woman who applied for the operator trainee position?
Desi

Memphis, TN

#286 May 10, 2013
And I have NO idea why it says Memphis, TN on mine. I'm in Hattiesburg.
Zdr251

United States

#287 May 10, 2013
There are some women that are operators for chevron if you where to pass through California which is where they do all of their hiring from now and you score well on the test the odds are as good if not better than your male counterparts because they like to try to even the playing field on a male dominated job field. I know that I hired in this year and there was not any females in my class but I know there was a few in the classes before mine but best of luck to you
Desi

Memphis, TN

#288 May 17, 2013
Ok. Well I hope I get it. I've been after this job for awhile. Thanks so much!
Gulf

Gautier, MS

#289 May 17, 2013
Desi wrote:
Ok. Well I hope I get it. I've been after this job for awhile. Thanks so much!
Why don't you stay in Hattiesburg? There's a lot of local unemployment, as in way over 10%. We don't really need any outsiders coming in to steal what tiny amt. of work there is left. Find something to do up there. I'm sure there's something.

And lol if you don't know somebody, you're not getting on out there unless you just ace your test with a 100% score or unless you have previous experience in the field. They don't hire just any swinging d*ck off the street.
Desi

Hattiesburg, MS

#290 May 18, 2013
Gulf wrote:
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Why don't you stay in Hattiesburg? There's a lot of local unemployment, as in way over 10%. We don't really need any outsiders coming in to steal what tiny amt. of work there is left. Find something to do up there. I'm sure there's something.
And lol if you don't know somebody, you're not getting on out there unless you just ace your test with a 100% score or unless you have previous experience in the field. They don't hire just any swinging d*ck off the street.
Ok, you are obviously completely stupid. First of all, I'm from the coast. I'm only in hattiesburg for college, to better myself so that I can have the job I want. Don't you dare tell me what to do and act like you deserve the job just because you live there. I have just as much right as you to want better for myself. Also, I do know people. My father works there as well as my best friends father, two more friends, and the HO. So it's lookin pretty good, I think. So, keep your stupid little comments to yourself. And I'm not takin jobs from you. Did you not hear me? IM A WOMAN. They hire a few women no matter what. So the only people ill be competing with are women, imbecile. One more thing. I hate hattiesburg with a passion and would never want to live here EVER. So I sure as heck ain't gonna just cuz some stranger tells me to. Good day to you, sir. And please, keep your stupidity to yourself.
Matt

Nashville, TN

#291 May 18, 2013
Desi wrote:
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Ok, you are obviously completely stupid. First of all, I'm from the coast. I'm only in hattiesburg for college, to better myself so that I can have the job I want. Don't you dare tell me what to do and act like you deserve the job just because you live there. I have just as much right as you to want better for myself. Also, I do know people. My father works there as well as my best friends father, two more friends, and the HO. So it's lookin pretty good, I think. So, keep your stupid little comments to yourself. And I'm not takin jobs from you. Did you not hear me? IM A WOMAN. They hire a few women no matter what. So the only people ill be competing with are women, imbecile. One more thing. I hate hattiesburg with a passion and would never want to live here EVER. So I sure as heck ain't gonna just cuz some stranger tells me to. Good day to you, sir. And please, keep your stupidity to yourself.
Burn, dumbass. Goo luck Desi
Desi

Hattiesburg, MS

#292 May 18, 2013
Matt wrote:
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Burn, dumbass. Goo luck Desi
Thanks, Matt. Good luck to you as well. If you are already on with them, congrats and ill see you out there!
Gulf

Gautier, MS

#293 May 19, 2013
Desi wrote:
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Ok, you are obviously completely stupid. First of all, I'm from the coast. I'm only in hattiesburg for college, to better myself so that I can have the job I want. Don't you dare tell me what to do and act like you deserve the job just because you live there. I have just as much right as you to want better for myself. Also, I do know people. My father works there as well as my best friends father, two more friends, and the HO. So it's lookin pretty good, I think. So, keep your stupid little comments to yourself. And I'm not takin jobs from you. Did you not hear me? IM A WOMAN. They hire a few women no matter what. So the only people ill be competing with are women, imbecile. One more thing. I hate hattiesburg with a passion and would never want to live here EVER. So I sure as heck ain't gonna just cuz some stranger tells me to. Good day to you, sir. And please, keep your stupidity to yourself.
Well, if you are from the coast then my apologies on that. Last time I went for the operator exam test there were HUNDREDS of out-of-state tags & out-of-region Mississippi tags I noticed. Those people need to stay away.

Now -- if what you're saying is true about you know this guy & that guy - well hell, sounds like you're better positioned than I am to get on out there. Not because you're doing "anything right or better than me." But rather because you know the right people. You're a "good old girl." An operator is a man's job, they don't need any more women out there pretending they can lift 150 pound loads & haul them around. But chances are either way, you have better luck of getting on out there(& yes, I passed the test, I am more than qualified) than most of us because of WHO YOU KNOW rather than "earning" the job or being the right fit for the job.

Its nothing personal, its just "business." It was like that back in the 80s & 90s too. People got on out there because they knew so and so who knew so and so and that sorta thing. Not gonna say most but many of the ppl who work out there never actually "earned" the job thru a fair exam type process. They got the job because somebody pulled strings for them. That's the way crap works around here.
Desi

Hattiesburg, MS

#295 May 19, 2013
Gulf wrote:
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Oh f**k off dumbshit. You're not gonna get laid or a bj by telling her good luck.
An operator is a heavy-labor skilled position. They often have to carry 100+ pounds around. I'm a 200 pound plus man & that sometimes can straight my back by doing it over & over. Do you really want a female co-worker backing you up who may drop a 20 pound wrench down a ladder into your face?

There's a reason men in these kinds of jobs don't like working around women & why there aren't many women besides people who get connected bosses to get them on. They don't physically qualify for the work, its hot, heavy dirty labor in many instances that requires a lot of mechanical knowledge.
The unemployment rate is already high enough as is for men. If women want to work let them go be teachers or nurses like they used to. Unless you want a female coworker as your backup holding your support line as you dangle from a harness.
Yea, good luck with that. We don't need women in these kinds of jobs. They already whine enough about being 'treated as equal' when they don't realize that their lack of physical strength in many instance can put their own lives & their co-workers' lives in danger of industrial accidents.
Alright, buddy. I've just about had enough. You and your caveman ways need to get over yourselves. I can bench press 180lbs and squat about 235. And Im a small woman. You're right about not being stronger than a man, but I can sure hold my own. I won't be letting anyone down when they need me. And that bull about a woman droppin a 20lb wrench. Are you mental? I curl 30lb weights in each hand at the gym. I can handle a 20lb wrench. I've worked outside all my life, work on my own motorcycle (so I know about mechanics), and have helped my brother weld. I know just a much as any man. Women belong there just as much as men do. So please keep your mouth shut you sexist idiot.
Fotprocks

Pascagoula, MS

#296 May 19, 2013
Gulf that attitude won't fly out here. I don't know of any operator carrying around 100+ pounds of anything. I work around women who I wouldn't mind backing me up any day of the week. You get paid minimum wage from the neck down and the rest of what we get paid is from the neck up. If you are lucky to join us Gulf i hope that attitude gets lost before you cross the gates. Desi good luck to you and I hope you are lucky enough to join us you won't find anyone out there with the same attitude as Gulf they are pretty good about weeding out people like that.
Zdr251

United States

#297 May 20, 2013
Hey gulf I'm from alabama so what is wrong with that just because you are from mississippi you have more of a right to a job than I do? And no operator carries a hundred pounds and if a woman can handle the job more power to her. And as for you saying u have to know someone when I applied I knew one person out there and I didn't find out till after I applied that they work there and he didn't help me because we are not very good friends but they hire out of California now so the good ole boy system is gone but it doesn't matter because with the attitude that u have you could not make it out there because one of the big things they preach us diversity and inclusion and with your mindset it would never work
Desi

Sumrall, MS

#298 May 20, 2013
Thanks guys. I don't know what this guy's problem is. I sure hope I don't meet anyone like him out there if I'm fortunate to get this job.
DJ West

Rancho Cordova, CA

#299 May 20, 2013
....email of doom of today (Richmond Trainee Position) but no biggie for im blessed to be earning and motivated. I thank chevron for taking me over the edge and waking me up to the fact im a creator...for the length of time it took to receive the dreaded email a business plan was dev'd, web presence dev'd, company branding dev'd, product dev'd etc...goodluck to all an remember "Purpose" is everything, no accidents, no coincidence and American needs small/med businesses/corps - keep it moving!
Gulf

Gautier, MS

#300 May 20, 2013
Fotprocks wrote:
Gulf that attitude won't fly out here. I don't know of any operator carrying around 100+ pounds of anything. I work around women who I wouldn't mind backing me up any day of the week. You get paid minimum wage from the neck down and the rest of what we get paid is from the neck up. If you are lucky to join us Gulf i hope that attitude gets lost before you cross the gates. Desi good luck to you and I hope you are lucky enough to join us you won't find anyone out there with the same attitude as Gulf they are pretty good about weeding out people like that.
You're full of sh*t dude, you don't work out there as an operator. I know several operators out there, they make close to 100k a year with over time. You don't make minimum wage working for Chevron unless you work for a subcontractor.

And yes, you do lift more than 100 pounds on multiple occasions & carry heavy loads you often have to squat to pick up & dead lift & hold for long periods of time.

Again though, I've actually taken the skills test & I passed, I was in the top 25 percentile, its just you gotta know somebody to get on out there, I don't care what anybody here says, you're not getting on out there w/out having somebody pull strings for you, its just how it works around here, unless corporate itself hires you as an outsider & brings you in that is.

I actually think "desi" will get on but not because she's qualified, she's not, but because of who she knows as she said she has relatives or something who work out there. There are people I worked with on the oil spill were trained operators who went thru the junior college's 2 year operator program who couldn't find work & they had their permit/degree/training

I dunno why you're making it sound like you can just waltz in, pass the test & get on. I know a guy who passed 5 times & never got on.

Being able to weld a little & working on motorcycles & claiming to lift weights isn't enough. You sometimes have to physically support a 200 pound plus man hanging off a harness dangling down into a chemical tank or off the side of a flimsy pipe.

If you really do work there, & I doubt it, & if you want a small 150 pound woman holding your harness & being your "watch man" making sure you don't fall to your death than hey man you got bigger balls than me. OSHA would call that a preventable accident & no man I've ever worked with would go along with it.

But hey if you wanna end up the victim of a 40 foot fall enjoy your new coworker after her father in law or whatever it was pulls strings to get her on.

Woman can work out there but they need to be in sit down or non-labor jobs like say engineers or safety inspectors. I mean REALLY DUDE? You want a 150 pound woman holding our harness as your safety buddy or whatever term they use nowadays? Tag out partner or whatever? Good luck man, that's all I can say. Your safety, not mine.
Gulf

Gautier, MS

#301 May 20, 2013
Zdr251 wrote:
Hey gulf I'm from alabama so what is wrong with that just because you are from mississippi you have more of a right to a job than I do? And no operator carries a hundred pounds and if a woman can handle the job more power to her. And as for you saying u have to know someone when I applied I knew one person out there and I didn't find out till after I applied that they work there and he didn't help me because we are not very good friends but they hire out of California now so the good ole boy system is gone but it doesn't matter because with the attitude that u have you could not make it out there because one of the big things they preach us diversity and inclusion and with your mindset it would never work
I was born in Pascagoula. Raised in Gautier & Ocean Springs & Pascagoula. The refinery is in our county, in our city, in our area. We take the risk of explosions, spills, environmental damage to our city/area so the pick of the litter of good jobs should go to us, not outsiders. Politically speaking the refinery's brass babbles in the press all the time about giving back to the community. Take a drive around Pascagoula or Moss Point some time & look @ the 'FOR RENT' or the 'FOR SALE' signs, or worse, the abandoned homes that haven't been lived in since before the hurricane.

And many of the unemployed aren't drug heads either. They can pass a blood or piss test, are not felons, & are not lazy welfare mooches. For the pay Chevron pay levels, most will go work IF CHEVRON TRAINS THEM. And work hard @ that because its a solid living. If you live in Grand Bay that's one thing but let's get serious would you actually live in Pascagoula, Gautier or Moss Point if you got hired on?(you don't work there, stop pretending you do, or if you do you work for a subcontractor like KBR or Performance)

If you do work there by some miracle its because corporate hired you for some odd reason. I took the test bro. I went to the fairgrounds in Pascagoula back in 2008 during the last major operator hiring boom. I made the cut & didn't even hear back. Its bullsh*t. There's an 18 year old kid I know who on straight out of high school w/out operator training because his uncle is a big shot out there. I worked with trained operators on the oil spill who sprayed down boats on the Pascagoula River because Chevron wouldn't take them.

The unemployment rate in Pascagoula is something like 10 to 20%, higher in Moss Point. And many of those are unemployed plumbers, carpenters, that kinda thing. 1st class tradesmen who can't find bullspit for work.

I dunno what you guys are smoking to make these stories up but trust me, I KNOW PEOPLE WHO WORK THERE, WHO'VE BEEN OUT THERE SINCE THE 70s DUDE. I've spoken with them, had them explain to me the refinery hiring politics & practices. You don't know somebody even if you're qualified, you're not getting on unless corporate hires you over the head of the refinery's HR dept.

This is nonsense. Trust me, I know what I'm talking about. I'm able bodied, fairly young, and I'M DYING to go work for a solid company like Chevron. I'll work 90 or 100 hr weeks if they let me.(and they probably won't) But if you're willing to go hang from a harness while painting or cleaning a pipe while being suspended 75 feet in the air with a 150 pound woman holding your line as your support partner -- you either need a shrink examination or you're crazy as a bat out of hell. You go up & hang from a height with 'desi' or some one similar as you're partner you're coming home in a body bag.

Operators do indeed carry heavy loads.
Zdr251

United States

#302 May 20, 2013
Gulf wrote:
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You're full of sh*t dude, you don't work out there as an operator. I know several operators out there, they make close to 100k a year with over time. You don't make minimum wage working for Chevron unless you work for a subcontractor.
And yes, you do lift more than 100 pounds on multiple occasions & carry heavy loads you often have to squat to pick up & dead lift & hold for long periods of time.
Again though, I've actually taken the skills test & I passed, I was in the top 25 percentile, its just you gotta know somebody to get on out there, I don't care what anybody here says, you're not getting on out there w/out having somebody pull strings for you, its just how it works around here, unless corporate itself hires you as an outsider & brings you in that is.
I actually think "desi" will get on but not because she's qualified, she's not, but because of who she knows as she said she has relatives or something who work out there. There are people I worked with on the oil spill were trained operators who went thru the junior college's 2 year operator program who couldn't find work & they had their permit/degree/training
I dunno why you're making it sound like you can just waltz in, pass the test & get on. I know a guy who passed 5 times & never got on.
Being able to weld a little & working on motorcycles & claiming to lift weights isn't enough. You sometimes have to physically support a 200 pound plus man hanging off a harness dangling down into a chemical tank or off the side of a flimsy pipe.
If you really do work there, & I doubt it, & if you want a small 150 pound woman holding your harness & being your "watch man" making sure you don't fall to your death than hey man you got bigger balls than me. OSHA would call that a preventable accident & no man I've ever worked with would go along with it.
But hey if you wanna end up the victim of a 40 foot fall enjoy your new coworker after her father in law or whatever it was pulls strings to get her on.
Woman can work out there but they need to be in sit down or non-labor jobs like say engineers or safety inspectors. I mean REALLY DUDE? You want a 150 pound woman holding our harness as your safety buddy or whatever term they use nowadays? Tag out partner or whatever? Good luck man, that's all I can say. Your safety, not mine.

Look I am an operator and we do not do heavy lifting and he was referring to the fact that when you are in training they tell you that chevron pays you minimum wage from the neck down and the rest from your head up which is a meting or for saying you make all your money with your intelligence and not for the labor you do and as for hard work once you are qualified there is a lot of down time and yes the do make a heck of a lot of money and most break 100 k a year and I work with a woman operator who used to be a high school teacher and she is a hell of an operator so don't judge what someone can do by there sex.
Gulf

Gautier, MS

#303 May 20, 2013
DJ West wrote:
....email of doom of today (Richmond Trainee Position) but no biggie for im blessed to be earning and motivated. I thank chevron for taking me over the edge and waking me up to the fact im a creator...for the length of time it took to receive the dreaded email a business plan was dev'd, web presence dev'd, company branding dev'd, product dev'd etc...goodluck to all an remember "Purpose" is everything, no accidents, no coincidence and American needs small/med businesses/corps - keep it moving!
Well I do wish you luck but don't get your hopes up. I've had several "small businesses" over the years. Trust me, its overrated. Some company like Chevron is a solid high wage paycheck that's near permanent.

Many small businesses do succeed but more than half fail. Don't get your hopes up but if it does work out, good for you.

If you're under 35 I'd suggest joining the military. Its damn near the only thing the average joe can do any more without going into debt to go to college & then end up at flipping burgers when he gets an unemployable degree.

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