History Mystery: Rare Book on Slavery Found in WNY Home

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#1 Apr 1, 2013
TOWN OF BATAVIA, NY - "I don't want to open it up and ruin it any more than we possibly have to," said Larry Abaire, as he gingerly held an historic find made by a friend of his installing insulation in an old farm house in a rural section of Genesee County.

It was a hard cover book, published in 1835 and titled "Letters to the Hon. William Jay: Being a Reply to His Inquiry Into the American Colonization and American Anti-Slavery Societies".

From the bit of preliminary research we were able to do on Friday, it turns out the book was quite controversial when first published, as it had to do with a hotly debated issue in American society at the time: the abolition of slavery, which would eventually propel the nation into civil war.

The book by David M. Reese, M.D. in part advocated the return of freed slaves to Africa, amid a conclusion that whites and freed blacks could not live together in American society

http://www.wgrz.com/news/article/208434/37/Hi...

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#3 Apr 1, 2013
IescapedNY wrote:
TOWN OF BATAVIA, NY - "I don't want to open it up and ruin it any more than we possibly have to," said Larry Abaire, as he gingerly held an historic find made by a friend of his installing insulation in an old farm house in a rural section of Genesee County.
It was a hard cover book, published in 1835 and titled "Letters to the Hon. William Jay: Being a Reply to His Inquiry Into the American Colonization and American Anti-Slavery Societies".
From the bit of preliminary research we were able to do on Friday, it turns out the book was quite controversial when first published, as it had to do with a hotly debated issue in American society at the time: the abolition of slavery, which would eventually propel the nation into civil war.
The book by David M. Reese, M.D. in part advocated the return of freed slaves to Africa, amid a conclusion that whites and freed blacks could not live together in American society
http://www.wgrz.com/news/article/208434/37/Hi...
Looks like someone doesn't like history or what the good DR.Reese had to say.The good Dr. knew even back than that they should have been sent back,shame that he wasn't listened to.Just saying
Donnie_S

Penfield, NY

#4 Apr 1, 2013
pigpen911 wrote:
<quoted text>Looks like someone doesn't like history or what the good DR.Reese had to say.The good Dr. knew even back than that they should have been sent back,shame that he wasn't listened to.Just saying
You're clueless.

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#5 Apr 1, 2013
Donnie_S wrote:
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You're clueless.
Please tell us all way I am clueless Donnie? It has been proven that blacks are racist,IE:hate anything white,and will never get along with anyone of any other race. They don't get along with Hispanics,Asians,Arabs,ect. So please tell us how I am clueless.(Did you noticed that I used the space bar just in your honor,you can thank me later.) Just asking/saying.LOL!----- OH-OH-OH,I forgot to ask if you are a male of female Donnie,I am always nicer to the females,thanks.
White Virus

Baltimore, MD

#6 Apr 1, 2013
pigpen911 wrote:
<quoted text>Looks like someone doesn't like history or what the good DR.Reese had to say.The good Dr. knew even back than that they should have been sent back,shame that he wasn't listened to.Just saying
Dr. Joseph Mengele had some ideas to.....
Donnie_S

Penfield, NY

#7 Apr 1, 2013
pigpen911 wrote:
<quoted text>Please tell us all way I am clueless Donnie? It has been proven that blacks are racist,IE:hate anything white,and will never get along with anyone of any other race. They don't get along with Hispanics,Asians,Arabs,ect. So please tell us how I am clueless.
Because you make statements like 'it is proven' and never cite a source or sources. You just make up crap. That is why you are clueless. Just sayin'.
Donnie_S

Penfield, NY

#8 Apr 1, 2013
pigpen911 wrote:
<quoted text>OH-OH-OH,I forgot to ask if you are a male of female Donnie,I am always nicer to the females,thanks.
The closest you will ever come to a female is Topix.

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#9 Apr 1, 2013
Donnie_S wrote:
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Because you make statements like 'it is proven' and never cite a source or sources. You just make up crap. That is why you are clueless. Just sayin'.
Try reading something other than what the liberal grade schools/colleges brainwashed you with Donnie.There have been many studies done and they might enlighten your views. Just saying.

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#10 Apr 1, 2013
Donnie_S wrote:
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The closest you will ever come to a female is Topix.
My wife of 40 years and my exwife might disagree with you on that one Donnie. Now was that male or female Donnie? just asking.

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#11 Apr 1, 2013
White Virus wrote:
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Dr. Joseph Mengele had some ideas to.....
Can't disagree with you on that,and he got what he had coming to him.It would be pretty hard to compare Dr.Resse to Mengele don't you agree?
rePIGpublican

Rochester, NY

#12 Apr 1, 2013
pigpen911 wrote:
<quoted text>Please tell us all way I am clueless Donnie? It has been proven that blacks are racist,IE:hate anything white,and will never get along with anyone of any other race. They don't get along with Hispanics,Asians,Arabs,ect. So please tell us how I am clueless.(Did you noticed that I used the space bar just in your honor,you can thank me later.) Just asking/saying.LOL!----- OH-OH-OH,I forgot to ask if you are a male of female Donnie,I am always nicer to the females,thanks.
Whether your logic is true or not, blacks suffered discriminated more than any race! So can you blame them?! I think you are speaking about yourself. YOU don't get along with blacks! You are speaking from the white view of yourself! Jews are the most racist group out there!You guys stick to your own and make no bones about it! I told you I have dealt with jews and they are the most racist people out there! Get the facts straight! Also the KKK, sick bastards!
Donnie_S

Penfield, NY

#13 Apr 1, 2013
pigpen911 wrote:
<quoted text>Try reading something other than what the liberal grade schools/colleges brainwashed you with Donnie.There have been many studies done and they might enlighten your views. Just saying.
I am a graduate of the National Truck Driving School, which is very conservative. We did have a Hebrew guy in our class, who was very whinny. Maybe you know him, name of Abrehem.

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#14 Apr 1, 2013
Donnie_S wrote:
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I am a graduate of the National Truck Driving School, which is very conservative. We did have a Hebrew guy in our class, who was very whinny. Maybe you know him, name of Abrehem.
No can't say that I know him.I'm pretty sure he wasn't an alter boy in my church.I'll check with a couple of my Jewish friends and see if they know him if you want.(most of them are a bit whinny) Just saying.
Bigsingle

Rochester, NY

#16 Apr 1, 2013
HERE IS WISDOM FROM ONE EDUCATED BLACK WOMAN! READ THE TRUTH IF YOU DARE!

As Jill Norgren and Serena Nanda expose,“the history of African Americans in America begins with a forced migration, as slaves, to this country. Both the numbers of African Americans brought here as slaves and the prejudice and discrimination they faced is unmatched by any other immigrant group.”68
She was expressing African Americans’ understanding of their position as the most systematically excluded group in the United States history.”70 “Justices from the slave states however, led by Justice James Wayne of Georgia, decided to confront the slavery question squarely and supported a full opinion on the merits in which by a 7-2 vote, the Supreme Court struck down the Missouri Compromise and declared that Dred Scott had not won his freedom by residing in a free territory.”76 “Even more critically, the justices stated that any person – free or slave – whose ancestors were born in Africa and sold into slavery, was not meant to be, and could never become a citizen of the United States. The Court emphasized that a slave such as Dred Scott was “strictly property, to be used in subservience to the interests, the convenience, or the will of his owner” and that a slave, the …property of a master, a possessing within himself no civil or political rights or capacities, cannot be a CITIZEN. The Court argued that since slaves were property and the Constitution “was pledged” to protect property rights, setting a slave free would be a violation of the rights of his master and thus unconstitutional.”77 “Chief Justice Taney began his majority opinion with a comparison of “the Indian races” and “Negros of the African race,” pointed up the differences. Indians,“although they were uncivilized, they were yet a free and independent people,” and, as members of sovereign states, could become citizens.“Negro,” Never! Claiming that “it is not the province of the Court to decide upon the justice or injustice…of the laws,” the court held that even though free African Americans were citizens and could vote, where qualified, in several states – New Hampshire, New York, New Jersey, North Carolina, and Massachusetts – this did not entitle them to the rights and privileges of citizenship in this nation ever.” 78
“No other group has experienced the poverty and economic deprivation that African Americans have experienced. Finally, no other group has been and continues to be victimized by institutionalized discriminatory practices and policies in every area of American life solely on the basis of an immutable attribute as skin color.”82
Jill Norgren and Sarena Nanda suggest that “the Dred Scott decision is today often dismissed as no longer important, having been technically reversed by the thirteenth, fourteenth and fifteenth amendments to the Constitution following the civil war. But this dismissal underestimates the historical significance of an opinion that established Supreme Court approval for the idea of African-American inferiority and exclusion from all civic rights, a fact of American life that continues to this present day. However dead the law in Dred Scott may be, Norgren and Nanda submit that the attitudes that support it, are very much alive.83
Bigsingle

Rochester, NY

#17 Apr 1, 2013
WHITE AMERICA, YOUR ATTITUDES ARE VERY MUCH ALIVE. DO WE NEED A HISTORY LESSON ON BLACKS ENSLAVING WHITES IN AMERICA? WHO WANTS ONE, JUST GET SMART!
RacialProfilingS ince86

Sutton, MA

#18 Apr 2, 2013
Are any blacks going to try and sue the finder of the book and say there racist.

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#19 Apr 3, 2013
Now when I was a baby, Mama named me after the great Civil War hero General Nathan Bedford Forrest. She said we was related to him in some way. What he did was he started up this club called the Ku Klux Klan. They'd all dress up in their robes and their bed sheets and act like a bunch of ghosts or spooks or something'. They'd even put bed sheets on their horses and ride around. And anyway, that's how I got my name, Forrest Gump. Mama said the Forrest part was to remind me that sometimes we all do things that, well, just don't make no sense.
Forrest Gump
Bigsingle

Rochester, NY

#20 Apr 3, 2013
RacialProfilingSince86 wrote:
Are any blacks going to try and sue the finder of the book and say there racist.
IT WAS YOUR GRAND DADDY, MY UNCLE!
Bigsingle

Rochester, NY

#21 Apr 3, 2013
I SEE YOU JUDGED THAT HISTORY LESSON. FIRST OF ALL, I DO HAVE A CLUE. I KNOW WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT. HAVE A DEGREE IN AFRICAN HISTORY AND TEACH IT. SECONDLY, YOU ALL ARE DUMB AS HELL. YOU ARE THE ONES THAT ARE CLUELESS. THAT'S YOUR WHITE SUPERIORITY COMPLEX THAT HAVE YOU ALL ACTING THAT WAY. YOU DO KNOW AMERICA IS BROWN NOW AND WHITE IS A MINORITY RIGHT? 71% ASIANS VOTED FOR THE BLACK MAN AND YOU ASSIMILATE THEM IN YOUR HOMES; THEY HATE YOU TOO. 72% LATINO AND 93% BLACKS! 72% WHITE VOTED FOR MITT ROMNEY. DID YOU VOTE FOR HIM CAUSE HE IS WHITE? YES.
MLKing

Penfield, NY

#22 Apr 3, 2013
Bigsingle wrote:
HAVE A DEGREE IN AFRICAN HISTORY AND TEACH IT.
No, some fake college grants a degree in Afro History. No, c'mon. It's one of those online scam colleges, right? What good does a degree in African history do? Make you bitter and depressed? No, really. That's funny. And who wants to learn it? Holy crap on a cracker.

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