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notonabet

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I'm not here because I want to say something nasty, I was just curious about SMC Equestrian Center since it was mentioned a couple of times. Chris White is listed as a trainer and instructor there but I honestly don't know much about him. A boarder who was there mentioned that it's difficult to schedule a lesson with him since he's so busy, but I never really tried to schedule a lesson. The place seemed like it needed a bit of work the last time I was there, but that was over a year ago. I spoke with who I assumed was Chris on the phone and I asked about lessons and leasing and I mentioned the boarder I met (not saying anything bad about her) and he basically said that this boarder was crazy and is no longer there. Honestly, I don't know what to believe, but I'm not so sure I'm interested in this place anymore.
If you drive by now you'll see that the front ring is GONE! No big loss because there were trees in the middle of it and it was full of rocks! Why is it so hard to get a lesson with Chris White? He doesn't have a job other than the farm and most times when I went there he was drinking or sleeping! He always says the boarders are crazy and talks about them behind their backs. I know 3 people who have boarded there and are so happy they left! I would totally stay clear of this farm!
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Well, now that it's over and public record, I can post this so others don't end up in my situation! I gave a 30 day written and verbal notice to Chris White. 10 days later, he had a sheriff serve me with a 24 hour notice to remove my horses. FIRST OFF, A 24 HOUR NOTICE IS ILLEGAL!

He took me to court, suing me for $3000: Loss of a horse sale, overuse of bedding and defamation.

The first court date he said he couldn't proceed because Shannon wasn't there. It was rescheduled and neither one showed up. I was awarded a judgement. He wrote a letter to the judge and it was reopened.

Back to court and after a 45 day wait .... HE LOST AGAIN! I was awarded a judgement for the board for the days I was off the property. HE WON NOTHING! He told the judge that my horse bit his horse and he couldn't take her to the auction where he felt she would have brought $2000, but his board contract specifically says horses are inherently dangerous and they bite, kick, rear, trample, etc., and SMC cannot be held responsible. The judge told him that he is held by the same contract so, HE LOST.

He told the judge that the colt that I was buying and who didn't become mine until the day I gave notice, used $300 in bedding over what they provide to boarders. Again, HE LOST. The judge agreed that the colt only belonged to me for 10 days.

And finally, he said that my horse damaged one of his barns. He wanted $300. I had a boarder with me in court who verified that she moved off the property AFTER I left and that that building was not damaged. AGAIN HE LOST!

FYI!!! The colt was kept in a stall 24/7 and was drinking excessive amounts of water. HE NEVER CALLED A VET OUT FOR HIM! A month before I ever got a bill of sale, I had the colt vetted and his hematacrit which should have been a min of 34 was at 25! He was severely anemic. He was vetted again 20 days after we left the barn and it was at 21. Thanks to love and good feed, 3 months after we left the barn, his crit was at 38 and he was able to be gelded.

I provided my own feed and supplements for all 3 of my horses but it appears due to the anemia of the colt and the weight loss of the 2 senior horses, that he was not feeding it.

This comments are all true and available in the Lockport City Court records. Please ... research before you board ANYWHERE
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#91
Jun 15, 2012
 
I have read most of these comments that have been posted over the last year and I would have to disagree with the majority of them. I believe that the computer makes it all too easy for bored people to attack and write negative comments about one another. If you had a bad experience with a business and you post it online that is one thing but to personally attack people is another. Please find something better to do with your time. As for SMC Equestrian I do board there and have for over a year and the things that are being described I have never witnessed. Both the owners have been more than willing and helpful in regards to the care of my horse. They both have gone out of their way numerous times to help when I have had issues arise while riding/training my horse.

I honestly have not experienced any problems at the barn. I absolutely love it there and will continue to board with them.

If you are reading these posts I ask that you take all the negativity with a grain of salt and come to meet the owners and use your own judgement. As I can assure you that all of us have people that dislike us and have said hurtful and insulting things about us in our lives but we wouldn't want to be judge based on what they have said.

I just ask that you be fair.
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Jun 15, 2012
 
Still Bored wrote:
......As I can assure you that all of us have people that dislike us and have said hurtful and insulting things about us in our lives but we wouldn't want to be judge based on what they have said.
I just ask that you be fair.
I agree with you Still Bored, people do have people in their lives that dislike them. That usually is for good reason though. I think many people dislike the owners of SMC because time again (even before they renamed the farm, when they were on their own, with their previous business endeavors) they have gone out of their way to pose harm oppose to not.
I can say this because now they have gone public with thier lies and deceptions. More people in the Pendelton/Lockport area, than not, can and did easily pickup the Niagara Gazette, read the article where Mr. & Mrs. White tell the reporter, "The stable, which was started by Shannon's family in 1956, has a variety of breeds," and also "Shannon's parents started the hobby horse stable. Shannon inherited the farm...". Fact: First, to inherit a piece of property, the people/person you inherit it from have past away. Her parents are still alive and have never owned the farm. Her deceased husband (James Foth) inherited it from his grandmother (Mildred Channing) when she past away. The Channing family had owned that property since the mid 1900's. Now you can maybe dispute those statements in the article and pass it off by the reporter not getting the information correct & misquoting them. Unfortuneately, similar statements were made in the Buffalo News article as well, "and live on the family farm that she grew up on and inherited from her grandmother." How can she inherit the farm from her grandmother when we just read in the Niagara Gazette, "Shannon's parents started the hobby horse stable. Shannon inherited the farm...".
There are many more lies & deceptions that have been told by them, many scams that they have gotten away with, many people they have gone out of their way to be hurtful too. It is your decision to make up your mind about what you want to think about these two people. Do your research, Google their names, go to RipoffReport.com for information. The internet will help you decide. Then please, feel free to go to the farm & meet them for yourself. At first they are a delightful couple, smiling & happy....then they will turn on you, like a rabid dog does and all of a sudden you will be verbally attached, slandered, taken to court under false pretenses and more.

It's your decision, choose wisely.
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Jun 16, 2012
 
I highly doubt that people are going to go out of their way and post all of these comments simply because they are bored. There is nothing wrong with warning people and telling them to be careful so that they don't end up with the same problems they endured. I decided I don't want to lease here and I'm convinced that I made the right decision. It was suggested by another poster to take the negative comments with a grain of salt. Perhaps I would if the majority of the comments were positive and there was maybe one negative comment, but that is obviously not the case. I saw with my own eyes what can happen there and these comments just reaffirm my belief that I should stay away from this place and those people.
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Jun 16, 2012
 
sgr14225 wrote:
I highly doubt that people are going to go out of their way and post all of these comments simply because they are bored. There is nothing wrong with warning people and telling them to be careful so that they don't end up with the same problems they endured. It was suggested by another poster to take the negative comments with a grain of salt. Perhaps I would if the majority of the comments were positive and there was maybe one negative comment, but that is obviously not the case. I saw with my own eyes what can happen there and these comments just reaffirm my belief that I should stay away from this place and those people.
You should really form your own opinion and make your decision based on that.not everybody gets along with everybody.maybe you would fit in well there like still bored does.Ive boarded at a place where friends of mine were boarding and they loved it.but I ended up leaving because even though I had friends there I clashed with others an they didnt.you should go to smc equestrian meet the owners an other boarders an see for yourself.if you did nothing but listen to others all the time your life would be very limited.
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Nov 8, 2012
 
Shannon stole a horse from me I still have the horses papera
notonabet

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Nov 18, 2012
 
Horse theft? I have no doubt! Shannon is PREGNANT! Great! Now 4 kids and those two supposed adults in a one bedroom apartment? And Chris's Dad living in a travel trailer on the property? Oh, and they can't pay their debts but they just bought another horse trailer? This one had a bad frame which was "repaired" (yeah sure)! I wouldn't let those people TOUCH my horse!
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Nov 30, 2012
 
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I went out to this woman's farm to look at a horse. Worst decision ever. After she was rude to me & wouldn't show me the horse, she then proceeded to start using foul language infront of her young child and my child. I was originally suppose to meet the barn manager there, but since she was running late, you think that the actual owner of the horse and farm would of assisted me, which was Shannon. Instead of her trying to help me purchase her horse, which I was very interested in, she was very difficult and rude. I drove more than an hour to get there, I had cash in my pocket. I just wanted to see him out of the pasture, saddled and ridden about for awhile. Since it was her horse, you think she would of been able to do this. She wasn't.
So I followed another link on this forum & found that now she is associated with a known horse trader. He too, I had a previous bad experience with. Is anyone decent or honest anymore?
Since our horse community is small and our children are around the same age, people talk and the kids talk too. My daughter has heard all kinds of horrible things from "other" children at the shows, 4H, etc. He isn't just dishonest business wise, but is very abusive to the female gender too. Which I have seen at shows before, but who am I to approach a 6 foot man with an unpredictable temper. His & other female children have had to deal with his verbal, mental & physical abuse. I know he has 4 children, 2 boys & 2 girls. Only the boys interact with him, the girls won't. I hope for her sake, she keeps her child safe. If he is abusive to his own kids, I can only imagine how he treats his girlfriends children if they are girls.
Both of them need a wake up call. The other forum that I was just reading mentioned CPS. I hope for the childrens sake they really were brought in to help and someone wasn't just saying that to get a rise out of these two.
I can't wait for show season to officially start, it will be interesting if these two show up together. They really have nothing to gain coming to the shows, nobody wants them their as it is. People didn't care for either of them before and now that they are together, it's just a disaster waiting to happen in public for everyone to see. I guess it will validate the "chat abouts" though and rumors will be proven true. I have a feeling they are going to give everyone something to talk about even more.
funny how they went to the 2012 south town series and kicked ass even the the $40,000 horses they came in first place. Wow they must know a thing or 2 bout horses now huh...... Validate that now mouths.......... And for cps funny how you people know so much bout whole lotta nothing........ And your right about the man she needs to get out for her sake and sanity because he nutssssssssss and will scam and steal and when he is done will move on to his next victim. And abusive.
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<quoted text> If you drive by now you'll see that the front ring is GONE! No big loss because there were trees in the middle of it and it was full of rocks! Why is it so hard to get a lesson with Chris White? He doesn't have a job other than the farm and most times when I went there he was drinking or sleeping! He always says the boarders are crazy and talks about them behind their backs. I know 3 people who have boarded there and are so happy they left! I would totally stay clear of this farm!
chris is the biggest alchololic I ever met. He is rude to his wife. She never comes out of the house. She is very nice from the times that I did talk to her always very helpful with my horse. I enjoyed my time boarding my horse with them unfortunately with the econamy I couldn't afford my horse no longer and sold her. I would board with them again. They took such good care of my horse. She was fat slick and happy. I love there cute indoor trails and they people at the barn. Her daughter is such a little dolly :) thank you Shannon and best of luck to you and Alex ;)
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Dec 1, 2012
 
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I agree with you Still Bored, people do have people in their lives that dislike them. That usually is for good reason though. I think many people dislike the owners of SMC because time again (even before they renamed the farm, when they were on their own, with their previous business endeavors) they have gone out of their way to pose harm oppose to not.
I can say this because now they have gone public with thier lies and deceptions. More people in the Pendelton/Lockport area, than not, can and did easily pickup the Niagara Gazette, read the article where Mr. & Mrs. White tell the reporter, "The stable, which was started by Shannon's family in 1956, has a variety of breeds," and also "Shannon's parents started the hobby horse stable. Shannon inherited the farm...". Fact: First, to inherit a piece of property, the people/person you inherit it from have past away. Her parents are still alive and have never owned the farm. Her deceased husband (James Foth) inherited it from his grandmother (Mildred Channing) when she past away. The Channing family had owned that property since the mid 1900's. Now you can maybe dispute those statements in the article and pass it off by the reporter not getting the information correct & misquoting them. Unfortuneately, similar statements were made in the Buffalo News article as well, "and live on the family farm that she grew up on and inherited from her grandmother." How can she inherit the farm from her grandmother when we just read in the Niagara Gazette, "Shannon's parents started the hobby horse stable. Shannon inherited the farm...".
There are many more lies & deceptions that have been told by them, many scams that they have gotten away with, many people they have gone out of their way to be hurtful too. It is your decision to make up your mind about what you want to think about these two people. Do your research, Google their names, go to RipoffReport.com for information. The internet will help you decide. Then please, feel free to go to the farm & meet them for yourself. At first they are a delightful couple, smiling & happy....then they will turn on you, like a rabid dog does and all of a sudden you will be verbally attached, slandered, taken to court under false pretenses and more.
It's your decision, choose wisely.
wow for someone to be slandered and hurt by these people you must have done something to have done something to the right Ginny Schroeder?????????? That's the person were really talking about right?????????? Since you have gone out of your way to slander smc's business your the boarder who caused so much trouble for those people you near killed my horse your just mad your were embarrassed you were escorted off the property by the police all the boarders saw it was sooooo funny and did you know the police department knew you by first name because you known for writing bad checks lol and you want to blog about smc how phony those people are. Wanna know something lady those people bailed you out when you lied to them about Matt and his barn you never paid your board there and you wrote bad checks to them and cops were called on you then LOL lady what's wrong with you. Gonna tell you something you want to justify anything with smc don't hide behind your computer and be a fucking coward because there is a whole lotta more lady we boarder know about you and glad to share with the world.......... Your a pathetic loser liar phony thief low life scum of the earth and don't know how to ride a horse and have no business owning a horse. You don't "save horse" horses like you tell yourself and the world and we know how you love to scam money from people you kill horses..........
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Dec 1, 2012
 
notonabet wrote:
Well, now that it's over and public record, I can post this so others don't end up in my situation! I gave a 30 day written and verbal notice to Chris White. 10 days later, he had a sheriff serve me with a 24 hour notice to remove my horses. FIRST OFF, A 24 HOUR NOTICE IS ILLEGAL!
He took me to court, suing me for $3000: Loss of a horse sale, overuse of bedding and defamation.
The first court date he said he couldn't proceed because Shannon wasn't there. It was rescheduled and neither one showed up. I was awarded a judgement. He wrote a letter to the judge and it was reopened.
Back to court and after a 45 day wait .... HE LOST AGAIN! I was awarded a judgement for the board for the days I was off the property. HE WON NOTHING! He told the judge that my horse bit his horse and he couldn't take her to the auction where he felt she would have brought $2000, but his board contract specifically says horses are inherently dangerous and they bite, kick, rear, trample, etc., and SMC cannot be held responsible. The judge told him that he is held by the same contract so, HE LOST.
He told the judge that the colt that I was buying and who didn't become mine until the day I gave notice, used $300 in bedding over what they provide to boarders. Again, HE LOST. The judge agreed that the colt only belonged to me for 10 days.
And finally, he said that my horse damaged one of his barns. He wanted $300. I had a boarder with me in court who verified that she moved off the property AFTER I left and that that building was not damaged. AGAIN HE LOST!
FYI!!! The colt was kept in a stall 24/7 and was drinking excessive amounts of water. HE NEVER CALLED A VET OUT FOR HIM! A month before I ever got a bill of sale, I had the colt vetted and his hematacrit which should have been a min of 34 was at 25! He was severely anemic. He was vetted again 20 days after we left the barn and it was at 21. Thanks to love and good feed, 3 months after we left the barn, his crit was at 38 and he was able to be gelded.
I provided my own feed and supplements for all 3 of my horses but it appears due to the anemia of the colt and the weight loss of the 2 senior horses, that he was not feeding it.
This comments are all true and available in the Lockport City Court records. Please ... research before you board ANYWHERE
why don't you tell the truth for once Ginny or maybe it might bit you in the ass......... First off your witness didn't say a word ha she didn't know her face from her fat ass second why don't you reread your boarding contract and third you bought a horse from me that I only owned for less than 3 days. And Ginny it took you 3 months to pay I'm off with your bad checks. Remember the day you were escorted off the premises the dispatcher knew who you were. Funny who now I get the real story how why you left your previous barn. Not paying your board and BAD CHECKS and the police were there that day when I had to get your horses. Your a bad seed Ginny so before you start something you cannot finish I suggest we stop the nonsense.......... Get a life and live it........
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Dec 1, 2012
 
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Shannon stole a horse from me I still have the horses papera
. Really rich???????? An owner doesn't abandon a horse for 2 years and then announces to the world that I stole a horse. That shows how classy you are. I didn't steal a horse nor have I ever. Leave me alone don't hide behind a computer you know where to find me to resolve this.
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Dec 1, 2012
 
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<quoted text>wow for someone to be slandered and hurt by these people you must have done something to have done something to the right Ginny Schroeder?????????? That's the person were really talking about right?????????? Since you have gone out of your way to slander smc's business your the boarder who caused so much trouble for those people you near killed my horse your just mad your were embarrassed you were escorted off the property by the police all the boarders saw it was sooooo funny and did you know the police department knew you by first name because you known for writing bad checks lol and you want to blog about smc how phony those people are. Wanna know something lady those people bailed you out when you lied to them about Matt and his barn you never paid your board there and you wrote bad checks to them and cops were called on you then LOL lady what's wrong with you. Gonna tell you something you want to justify anything with smc don't hide behind your computer and be a fucking coward because there is a whole lotta more lady we boarder know about you and glad to share with the world.......... Your a pathetic loser liar phony thief low life scum of the earth and don't know how to ride a horse and have no business owning a horse. You don't "save horse" horses like you tell yourself and the world and we know how you love to scam money from people you kill horses..........
First thing first ... I AM NOT GRAIN OF SALT! I am not the one who posted this. I AM NOTONABET!
Second...learn to write in coherent sentences!
And lets talk about what you wrote:
"you nearly killed my horse" - I only dealt with my own horses!
"escorted off the property by the police" - Get it right, I was given an ILLEGAL 24 hour notice to remove my horses from the property - I CHOSE to vacate which I did within 2 hours as I could not trust that my horses be left on the property especially when Alex was ABUSED! He has a broken face bone because the day AFTER I gave my written 30 day notice, HE WAS BEATEN!
"writing bad checks" = Nope! Get it right .. I stopped payment on a check!
"those people bailed you out" - Bailed me out of what? I was never arrested for ANYTHING.
"you don't know how to ride" - Sorry I hadn't ridden in 35 years so on that you are correct ... I a relearning!
"scam money from people" - I have NEVER scammed anyone.
"don't save horses" - Really, I have had a hand in raising funds to save roughly 8 horses from slaughter.
"you kill horses" - I have never even had a horse DIE so how can I have killed horses?
You need to get your facts straight. There are quite a few people who have personal knowledge of what SMC and Chris White have been doing for years. A couple of them are good friends of mine and have told me things that make my skin crawl.
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Dec 1, 2012
 
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<quoted text>why don't you tell the truth for once Ginny or maybe it might bit you in the ass......... First off your witness didn't say a word ha she didn't know her face from her fat ass second why don't you reread your boarding contract and third you bought a horse from me that I only owned for less than 3 days. And Ginny it took you 3 months to pay I'm off with your bad checks. Remember the day you were escorted off the premises the dispatcher knew who you were. Funny who now I get the real story how why you left your previous barn. Not paying your board and BAD CHECKS and the police were there that day when I had to get your horses. Your a bad seed Ginny so before you start something you cannot finish I suggest we stop the nonsense.......... Get a life and live it........
Too bad you don't know how to tell the truth! Pull the transcript of the court proceedings, she had a lot to say! She told the court all about the treatment of her horse and filed a letter with the court detailing all the information.
I RESCUED that colt from your treatment. You NEVER had him vetted even though you had him for 2 months. He was locked in a stall 24/7 and improperly fed. Per the vet, when I had him vetted in July BEFORE I had finished paying for him, he was on death's door with ANEMIA caused by your treatment! I am friends with his breeder who you conned to get him and she has verified TO THE COURT that you had him for 2 months BEFORE I agreed to your deal of "pay his board for 3 months and he is yours". I paid full board for all 3 of my horses AND supplied food for them! You were given 1 check in the time I was there! Yes, it bounced ... I told Shannon that BEFORE she was even notified and she told me to wait until she got the check back to resolve it. All the other times, you were paid cash! Get your story straight when it comes to Alex! And you know why the dispatcher knew who I was ... she has been my dear friend for 15 years! AND she NEVER made a comment to you regarding knowing me. She is not allowed to! As for my previous boarding barn, gee ... The ones who said to shoot my horse to put him out of his misery? The horse that has done 3 shows and been Reserve Champion at 2 of them? I got him out of there ASAP and stupidly moved him to your farm where he lost roughly 300 pounds PER THE VET! If I had not paid my board to you OR the previous farm, one of you would have sued me for it....neither one of you did! You couldn't because IT WOULD HAVE BEEN A LIE!
I will continue to answer any questions that I get from people who ask me about boarding at your facility! You almost killed my black mare by not providing water and you almost killed Alex by neglecting his care. All of the horses who had owners smart enough to leave your barn are flourishing. They are finally in happy healthy situations.
All you do is lie! The barn fire? Shannon's daughter, Allie, told all the folks on her bus the next day that THERE WAS NOTHING IN THE BARN THAT BURNED! You are in a situation now that you cannot maintain your property because you don't have the boarders which is why the Niagara County Sheriff has been unable to get me the money that the court awarded to me for your breach of contract! If you want, I can continue to prove that you are UNSUITABLE to care for any living animal!
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Dec 1, 2012
 
Oh, and one of the boarders at SMC asked if she could show Champ. I said sure! I said I would pay his transport and entry fees ... all she had to do was ride!
2 days before the show I had my vet out to give my 2 horses their rabies shots and draw new coggins. I also had her do a full exam on Alex.
The day before the show, I got a call from the riders Mom saying that Chris White told her that the vet was out to see Champ because he was "off on the front" and that Chris felt it was unsafe!
Well, seems that on the day the vet was out, Chris fired the person who was riding for HIM. Now he needed my rider for his horses. So, he told a lie to get a rider.
I called the rider he fired, offered her the ride, and she accepted. At the show, Champ took FIRST over fences beating Chris's best horse, Jake, who went off course.
Yup, my "unsound" horse went on to place in every class he was entered in (a first, 2 seconds and 2 thirds)and took Reserve Champion!
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Dec 1, 2012
 
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You most certainly we not standing behind her! No one was there except for my daughter, myself, her young daughter and her.
And I highly doubt you are a supposed boarder, I knew a few boarders that kept their horses there. I told them all about this after it happened & they weren't surprised one bit that she used foul language and was rude to me. That's why they don't board there themselves anymore.
You very well indeed contradict yourself also in one of your statements above. Was there or wasn't there a "barn manager"? That's what she told me, are you saying she was lying about having a barn manager running & that she was running late? That seems silly for her to lie about having or not having a "barn manager" that was running late to meet me, especially since I spoke to her barn manager the previous day to set up the appointment. Or is that your opinion that she didn't have one? Either way, you are the ridiculous one & the trouble maker, not I.
And for the false accusations, I've made none. That is what happened when I traveled all the way there to look at a horse to purchase from her. Mind you, it was the second time I traveled all that way to look at this horse. I should of learned my lesson the first time when I went there & encountered her and her rudeness.
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Why don't you keep your big mouth shut and move on lady. Obviously lady after the first could you tell you weren't welcome then you come out for a second time to embarrass yourself....... Your posts are ridiculous and you need to move on up to the other side of things and GET A REAL LIfE..........
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Dec 1, 2012
 
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u dont have to be smart to figure out what u said.ask other peopple out therre about either of them.you'l hear stuff that is so crazy but true that you never thought actually coud happen an it does.i wouldnt leave nothin ther for them to take carre of but thatts just me whatever
Really you wouldn't leave anything out there to take care of. Well I'm going to tell you something and you had better listen very closely because your an ignorant asshole these people may of have the "prettiest" farm. It guess what they take care of those horse like GOLD. They R GORGEOUS. So before you nudge a book before its cover I suggest meet and greet or say nothing a out something you know NOTHiNG ABOUT.
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These people (Chris & Shannon) are not the type of people that you want to get involved with. I will not defame them nor write any lies, everything in my posting is true.
Fact: the horses there are not fed enough. Don't believe me? Drive by and take a look at the rib cages.
Fact: they dont turn the horses out when they say they will, or sometimes, they dont turn them out at all.
Fact: the horses are left in filthy stall conditions for days at a time.
Fact: they use horses that don't belong to them in "lessons" and allow people to ride BOARDER'S horses without asking the permission of the boarder
Fact: they will talk about you and tell lies to EVERYONE they know, even though most of those people know that they are liars
Fact: the fat girl, "Jess, " who used to watch the barn for them (and calls herself the "manager"), is afraid of horses and to my knowledge, has never even gotten on her own. On their website they used to say that they sold her the paint horse "Cappy," but they in fact did not.
Fact: they have far more unhappy customers than happy ones
Fact: countless horses are injured and mistreated there.
Fact: Shannon has a new/different medical ailment every week
Fact: Chris will sell an un-broke horse to a beginner with promises of helping them to train it, which he NEVER follows through with
Fact: Chris will make up any excuse in the world not to get on a horse.
Fact: Shannon does not even know how to ride
Fact: the minute you try to get your horse out of there, they will make up stories, call the police, threaten you with a law suit, fly off the handle, and call you names
Here's the thing. They are NICE at first. They seem so genuine and down to earth. But they are disgusting frauds!! All these skinny horses on the property that they say are "rescues." Bull! They are their own horses that they hardly feed.
They lost the law suit that they filed against another poster on here because they are liars and frauds. They did not have a leg to stand on.
DO YOURSELF A FAVOR AND STEER CLEAR. Remember, you get what you pay for. Undoing the damage that you will incur here will cost you MUCH more than the different that you will save in board.
And before all the rebuttals from the accused start pouring in, remember: No, i am not a jealous ex-lover or crazy ex-friend. I am just another victim of their widespread BS.
If you take the time to stick up for them, you're only kidding yourself. Google the names. Who are the liars... Chris and Shannon, or EVERYBODY else?
If you keep your animal there, you're obviously new to the horse world. The place is disgusting, but not quite as disgusting as the two people running it.
I feel sorry for their victims, their animals, but mostly, their children. I gosh - good thing you cannot write a single intelligent thing, or else some other ignorant person might actually believe you.
Achilles

Moundsville, WV

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Dec 25, 2012
 
Hey rich wrote:
<quoted text>. Really rich???????? An owner doesn't abandon a horse for 2 years and then announces to the world that I stole a horse. That shows how classy you are. I didn't steal a horse nor have I ever. Leave me alone don't hide behind a computer you know where to find me to resolve this.
Abandoned my horse that's a joke Shannon you saw to it that I couldn't get my horse...and from the looks of it here you have done similar things to a whole lot of other people... My goodness I don't have any reason to resolve this now from the looks of it you have a whole ton of trouble

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