Any info on Horizon City out there???
sunny70

Oxnard, CA

#179 Jun 28, 2010
Sunnieone wrote:
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Hello JD
We are recently back from a look at our property in HC.
There is nothing but desert raw land so the taxes being charges are not really fair and bear looking into.
Would you like to meet and talk? Have any thougts about what to do about your property in EP?
I have 3 ideas to follow through on after looking and talking there.
You can email me at [email protected]
Annual Maintenance money is going into someone's pocket for 40 years, since 1970. This bears us looking into remedies for all of us property owners. Our recent, first and only so far, visit to see our property there was eye opening in so many ways. Post your email contact or phone number for me to contact you with more thoughts for your consideration. AND EVERYONE ELSE WHO READS THIS TO POST YOUR EMAIL FOR ME TO CONTACT YOU ALL. WE NEED TO STEP UP IN A REAL POSITIVE WAY TO PROTECT OURSELVES.
email me at [email protected]
Recently found this webside and thank God, I found it. I have been getting calls from a collection agency, threatening to ruin my credit standing- for a worthless property in Mountain Shadow Estates. I contacted the City of Horizon to donate the property or give it up- whatever. No call back yet. Am willing to join group for a legal fight against this Horizon Community HOA. Please let me know
Sunnieone

Issaquah, WA

#180 Aug 1, 2010
what wrote:
See these posts all the time for the last 5 years. Look. You or someone in your family bought worthless lots and made a very, very bad investment. Get over it. Call the local governmments and "donate" the land in lieu of fees. Most of all quit whining.
YOU ARE WRONG!! Two weeks ago, I saw a cashiers heck to one person who sold their lot recently for $12,000. already cashed by them. And two other lots pending their sale, one for same amount and one for more.
RC Bev

Fort Huachuca, AZ

#181 Aug 13, 2010
Sunnieone wrote:
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YOU ARE WRONG!! Two weeks ago, I saw a cashiers heck to one person who sold their lot recently for $12,000. already cashed by them. And two other lots pending their sale, one for same amount and one for more.
But I was told by the tax assessor office that where my daughter lot is located, is there are NO utilities to that region of the county -- and none will be placed there for a number of years. Apparently there is a water rights dispute going on and if there is no water, there will be no development
andrew gomez

El Paso, TX

#182 Aug 13, 2010
I am a local land broker and can answer a few of your questions. There are many worthless lots in Horizon Estates- probably to the tune of 12-15,000 of them. There is NO ZONING in the county so they are actually not residential lots like many of you think. Some of them have been sold for commercial use. Lots cannot be sold for residential use without water. It is illegal in Texas under the Anti Colonia Law passed sometime in 1995 or so- see senate bill 1001 I believe - happy reading as it is about 500 pages. I have sold many lots in the county as commercial- some cheap and some for big dollars. It all depends on their proximity to roads, utilities and future growth. If you dont want to keep paying the "taxes" on your lots you can quit and eventually the CAD will sell them for back taxes owed at county court house for about $100- which is what most are worth. A developer will have to "assemble" enough lots to make these areas ever go. Right now there are so many owners scattered all over the country and world that the area will never develop. Sell them for what you can. If you want me to look at them send the pid number located at the top of your tax reciept- public information through the cad- usually starts with an H and we will look it up on a mapping system and forward you a map and let you know if its worth selling or dumping. I hate to say this to you now but most need to be dumped and forgotten. You don't always make money when investing. If any one contacts you and says they will market your lots on the internet for up front money or that your credit will get ruined if you let it forclose hang up these are scams and I have heard so so many of these stories. [email protected] caravan realty
Sunnieone

Issaquah, WA

#183 Aug 16, 2010
In addition to my cousin's lot I mentioned above selling for $12,000 we just sold our lot for $12,000. I have the cash in hand. We cashed the buyers check and it cleared. We did not have utilities either. We visited the lots in February and learned they are not worth hooking up to utilities, given the process required by the county, unless you are a large quantity owner. So decided to sell and get out from under the annual taxes etc.
RC Bev wrote:
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But I was told by the tax assessor office that where my daughter lot is located, is there are NO utilities to that region of the county -- and none will be placed there for a number of years. Apparently there is a water rights dispute going on and if there is no water, there will be no development
RCBev

Fort Huachuca, AZ

#184 Aug 18, 2010
Sunnieone wrote:
In addition to my cousin's lot I mentioned above selling for $12,000 we just sold our lot for $12,000. I have the cash in hand. We cashed the buyers check and it cleared. We did not have utilities either. We visited the lots in February and learned they are not worth hooking up to utilities, given the process required by the county, unless you are a large quantity owner. So decided to sell and get out from under the annual taxes etc.
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But in today's real estate market, who would want to buy a lot that according to El Paso Co. tax assessor office is worth -- ummm $10 dollars?? According to Google Maps, the property is 2 miles south of Montana Ave., about 3 miles west of Gas Line Road (Conolly Rd??) and 6 1/2 miles west of the Hudspeth Co. line. Oh and it's also less that a mile due east of a .. ROCK Quarry. My daughter does not want the property so we turned it back over to the County.
Sunnieone

Issaquah, WA

#185 Aug 18, 2010
RCBev wrote:
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But in today's real estate market, who would want to buy a lot that according to El Paso Co. tax assessor office is worth -- ummm $10 dollars?? According to Google Maps, the property is 2 miles south of Montana Ave., about 3 miles west of Gas Line Road (Conolly Rd??) and 6 1/2 miles west of the Hudspeth Co. line. Oh and it's also less that a mile due east of a .. ROCK Quarry. My daughter does not want the property so we turned it back over to the County.
Actually, someone smart who wants multiple lots for Alternative Energy would very much like our lots. They are perfect for solar power set up for sales and for wind power sales. I traveled there in February. Did a lot of research before, during, and after our trip to see the property and realized it is ideal for someone in the Alternative Energy business to own multiple properties. 40 years ago when yours and my relatives bought our properties they had not yet heard of Alternative Energy nor imagined the huge demand for it in the future (nowadays)!
RCBev

Fort Huachuca, AZ

#186 Aug 23, 2010
Sunnieone wrote:
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Actually, someone smart who wants multiple lots for Alternative Energy would very much like our lots. They are perfect for solar power set up for sales and for wind power sales. I traveled there in February. Did a lot of research before, during, and after our trip to see the property and realized it is ideal for someone in the Alternative Energy business to own multiple properties. 40 years ago when yours and my relatives bought our properties they had not yet heard of Alternative Energy nor imagined the huge demand for it in the future (nowadays)!
You have yet to name the company/buyer of the 2 lots your family recently sold. I am sure if this organization was interested in mulitple properties, they would have already contacted the owners such as my daughter. If Horizon Communities (HCIA) can hire a private company to find owners to try and obtain back association fees then I am sure this company could do the same. Tax Assessor data from El Paso Co.is easily obtainable.
Sunnieone

Issaquah, WA

#187 Aug 23, 2010
RCBev wrote:
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You have yet to name the company/buyer of the 2 lots your family recently sold. I am sure if this organization was interested in mulitple properties, they would have already contacted the owners such as my daughter. If Horizon Communities (HCIA) can hire a private company to find owners to try and obtain back association fees then I am sure this company could do the same. Tax Assessor data from El Paso Co.is easily obtainable.
Yes, I believe you are right. My buyer will find you if they want to make an offer. Or, I can let them know you are interested. They are in El Paso and collecting properties like at least two other high volume purchasers I now know there. They are savvy about the county records, like I become as I researched all involved in valuing my property.
tknott

Union, KY

#188 Sep 20, 2010
andrew gomez wrote:
I am a local land broker and can answer a few of your questions. There are many worthless lots in Horizon Estates- probably to the tune of 12-15,000 of them. There is NO ZONING in the county so they are actually not residential lots like many of you think. Some of them have been sold for commercial use. Lots cannot be sold for residential use without water. It is illegal in Texas under the Anti Colonia Law passed sometime in 1995 or so- see senate bill 1001 I believe - happy reading as it is about 500 pages. I have sold many lots in the county as commercial- some cheap and some for big dollars. It all depends on their proximity to roads, utilities and future growth. If you dont want to keep paying the "taxes" on your lots you can quit and eventually the CAD will sell them for back taxes owed at county court house for about $100- which is what most are worth. A developer will have to "assemble" enough lots to make these areas ever go. Right now there are so many owners scattered all over the country and world that the area will never develop. Sell them for what you can. If you want me to look at them send the pid number located at the top of your tax reciept- public information through the cad- usually starts with an H and we will look it up on a mapping system and forward you a map and let you know if its worth selling or dumping. I hate to say this to you now but most need to be dumped and forgotten. You don't always make money when investing. If any one contacts you and says they will market your lots on the internet for up front money or that your credit will get ruined if you let it forclose hang up these are scams and I have heard so so many of these stories. [email protected] caravan realty
If you owe HCIA fees and just dump it, can they do anything other than just take the land? Taking the land would be just fine with me.
mettta

Anaheim, CA

#189 Oct 4, 2010
Sara Jo wrote:
Hey guys so we have several properties in 16 Horizon City Estates 74. Does anyone know where this is and how to get pics or a map of it. We have three lots and one is a corner lot. Lots 30,31,32 if anyone could help me i would be so greatful. Even if it is a contact number for a real estate agent.
Go to horizoncommunities.com and download the color coded map from the HOA newsletters which are archived I think it's one of the very last newsletters listed (check from 2007 at least) it's in one of those.
Sharron

Tacoma, WA

#190 Oct 18, 2010
My grandmother bought a piece of property in Horizon city in the 60's. number I have is 544 horizon city 69 lot 10
0 interlaken avenue
Horizon City, Texas

Does anyone know what is going in this area.
Thank you
[email protected]
John Balazs

New Port Richey, FL

#191 Oct 18, 2010
Sharron wrote:
My grandmother bought a piece of property in Horizon city in the 60's. number I have is 544 horizon city 69 lot 10
0 interlaken avenue
Horizon City, Texas
Does anyone know what is going in this area.
Thank you
[email protected]
You might try contacting Mr. Andrew Gomez at [email protected] You'll notice most posts refer to lots purchased in the 70's. Since your Grandmother purchased her's in the 60's, it may be in a better area. Since I purchased mine in the early 60's, it seems to be in a better area. Mr. Gomez was quite helpful. Hope this helps.
John Balazs

New Port Richey, FL

#192 Oct 18, 2010
You might try contacting Mr. Andrew Gomez at [email protected] You'll notice most posts refer to lots purchased in the 70's. Since your Grandmother purchased her's in the 60's, it may be in a better area. Since I purchased mine in the early 60's, it seems to be in a better area. Mr. Gomez was quite helpful. Hope this helps.
CeD4

United States

#193 Oct 28, 2010
RCBev wrote:
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But in today's real estate market, who would want to buy a lot that according to El Paso Co. tax assessor office is worth -- ummm $10 dollars?? According to Google Maps, the property is 2 miles south of Montana Ave., about 3 miles west of Gas Line Road (Conolly Rd??) and 6 1/2 miles west of the Hudspeth Co. line. Oh and it's also less that a mile due east of a .. ROCK Quarry. My daughter does not want the property so we turned it back over to the County.
this area sounds close to where my husband has land ( from hims grandpas passing) it was sold to his Grandparents in our home state of GA in 1967 site unseen for 10$(we just found this out) and when i spoke with the lady today she said that taxes under $2.00 get wrote off as paid but u dont have to pay them and she also told me shed hold on to it cause theres nothing to loose were not having to pay any taxes and its 5 acres of land she said its value is low $50 because of the lack of water but that the county is planing on extending water lines out because there is a large high school reasonably close.were just gona hold it and wait and see we debated lookin to buy a few more worthless ones so when we have children and we pass the land may be worth somthing and our kids will have money..
Whats Up

Lawrence, KS

#194 Nov 16, 2010
I have two lots near Horizon City. I have had numerous phone calls from American Land Liquidators offering large amouts of cash for the chance to sell to prospective buyers. Does anyone know anything about this or has received calls aslo...........
andrew gomez

El Paso, TX

#195 Nov 17, 2010
Whats Up wrote:
I have two lots near Horizon City. I have had numerous phone calls from American Land Liquidators offering large amouts of cash for the chance to sell to prospective buyers. Does anyone know anything about this or has received calls aslo..........
scam
andrew gomez

El Paso, TX

#196 Nov 17, 2010
scam
Land Barron

Arlington, TX

#197 Dec 8, 2010
Watch out if you post comments HCIA has spies that watch forums. They will use any info you put out against you and they will increase their collection efforts. Don't trust anyone
Like it is

El Paso, TX

#198 Dec 10, 2010
Thats what you all get for buying land in the middle of the desert.

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