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Witness: Police Didn't Search Field Long Enough

There are 90 comments on the WANE Fort Wayne story from Feb 20, 2008, titled Witness: Police Didn't Search Field Long Enough. In it, WANE Fort Wayne reports that:

When Cheryl and Rick Monroe saw a car fly off County Road 48 in Dekalb County Monday afternoon, they called 9-1-1. "It was going about 45 miles per hour and it jumped the bank and went through the field and ...

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Concerns

Jackson, MO

#1 Feb 20, 2008
You can clearly hear one Deputy speaking to another officer from his vehicle. Then shortly thereafter, he called 10-8. This means the Deputy went in service and didn't confirm if the suspect had permission to be there and didn't thoroughly investigate whether the driver was drunk. It also sounded like the Dispatcher lied to the caller, saying that the Deputy spoke to the suspect and they had permission to be there. This was a lie.
It all boils down to complacency. It is sad to say, but the man might still be alive today, if the Deputy would have done more. It is called INVESTIGATE!!
John

Warren, IN

#2 Feb 20, 2008
Yes I agree there was a lack of judgement, on the part of the person who called it in. In addition to calling 911 they should have checked on the vehicle and passengers in which case they would have had the information that the police would have required. I also feel that since they saw the accident and did not check on the occupants they are just as much if not more at fault that the boy had to spend the night in freezing temperatures. If you want to dial 911 and pass the buck with only half the information don't bother to call.
Pat A

Goshen, IN

#3 Feb 20, 2008
John, I agree with you. There is such a thing as "Good Samaritan Law" in IN, where when you stop to render aid you give it your best shot, not just a 911 call. These folks should have given the law enforcement officers every possible bit of information...including doing a check of the car to see if anyone was injured, etc....wonder how they would feel if someone passed their loved ones by in a similar situation. Law enforcement relies on good information from citizens, and in this case, it didn't get enough good information.
John wrote:
Yes I agree there was a lack of judgement, on the part of the person who called it in. In addition to calling 911 they should have checked on the vehicle and passengers in which case they would have had the information that the police would have required. I also feel that since they saw the accident and did not check on the occupants they are just as much if not more at fault that the boy had to spend the night in freezing temperatures. If you want to dial 911 and pass the buck with only half the information don't bother to call.
Taylor

Onancock, VA

#4 Feb 20, 2008
I don't know all the details about this , but maybe the Monroe's should of gone to look with the deputy since they were the one's that witnessed it. The police didn't so it makes it tougher for the police to find the car. No matter what this is still a sad story.
Angered

Prospect, OH

#5 Feb 20, 2008
I cannot believe there are people justifying the law enforcement's actions by blaming the 911 callers. Other than the fact that they would have been trespassing, driving across a frozen chisel plowed field is not something even an adventurous person would do.

A man died and a teenage boy spent the night terrified and freezing because a couple of uniforms were to cold to do their jobs. Just try to put yourself in the mind of an autistic boy being violently driven across that field; witnessing his grandfather convulsing and dying, then spending the entire night in a dark frozen car with outside temperatures in the single digits.

Go sit in your car outside tonight for an hour. See how mad you get.
Angered too

Topeka, IN

#6 Feb 20, 2008
John, Pat and Taylor, listen to the video !!!!!
The 911 callers told the police exactly where the car was. The callers were on the road in sight of the car trying to make sure to police checked on the people in it. The police were right there!!! The police did not go check on the people in the car!!!!
Concerns

Auburn, IN

#7 Feb 21, 2008
Citizens shouldn't have to hold Law Enforcement Officers hands to do their jobs. Officers and Dispatchers were given ample information about the vehicle, including it's description, it's EXACT location and the action it took prior to it resting next to the woods. I certainly hope if I call in a robbery in progress, I don't have to get involved any more than letting Law Enforcement know the details. Law Enforcement is paid to SERVE and PROTECT citizens, not citizens acting as Law Enforcement Officers.
Dave

Macomb, MI

#8 Feb 21, 2008
What does cutting wood and nearly hitting a car head on have in common???
Even if someone had permission to cut wood you would think the officers at the scene would have investigated as to why they about caused a major accident on the highway. Why would the Garrett officer assume they were back cutting wood or did he roll the window down and hear chain saws running? Why didn't the Dekalb deputy investigate what the original call was about instead of listening to the Garrett officer? The whole situation was handled in a very incompetent manner.
Rebecca

United States

#9 Feb 21, 2008
Curious.....the lead story on the web site says the call went to the Noble County department and this story indicates the call went to the Dekalb County department...which department received the call?
concerned citizens

Auburn, IN

#10 Feb 21, 2008
As prior co-workers of Mrs.Squire, we are all outraged that a more thorough investigation wasn,t done in this matter. How much more clear could the directions have been,from Mrs. Monroe and according to news articles hers was the 2nd call placed to 911 in a matter of a 10 minute time period. The tracks from the vehicle were very prominent, so why didn,t the officers follow these tracks at 3:00pm on Monday. Maybe a life could have been saved and a child spared a night alone in the freezing cold alone, not understanding what is happening to his grandfather.
Karen

Macomb, MI

#11 Feb 21, 2008
I'd say the Good Samaritan Law was followed to a "t" by the 911 callers. Those people went over and above, actually staying close to the scene, waiting on the officers, pointing out the car. How about our tax-payer dollars being spent on deputies who evidently pick and choose what to investigate further? Weather too cold for you? Didn't want to drive your cars across a field? Ever wonder why someone would be cutting wood using a car that drove diagonally across a field cultivated field at a pretty good clip? Seem a bit curious to you, deputies??? Sounds very reminiscent of a tornado ripping apart houses a couple years ago south of DeKalb High School. Seems a failure to investigate was also "investigated further and wouldn't happen again" at that time. hummmm...... THIS time someone died. I guess now we can watch our tax dollars go toward the liklihood of a lawsuit. Unbelievable!!
baffled

Circleville, OH

#12 Feb 21, 2008
I don't know all of the details and I am sure that most people posting here don't either. I do believe that the police should have checked farther in the field. But the so called good samaritans could have also went to check. One could have stayed on the road and antoher go and check. THey could have walked acroos the field or was it TOO COLD FOR THEM TO GET OUT OF THEIR CARS TO SEE IF EVERYONE WAS ALL RIGHT. The exact same thing they are accusing the police of. I am not siding with either one because I believe that they are both wrong. THere are a lot of questions that need answered here. If the person in the car was waving their arms then took off again-what does that mean? DId the call go check? NO! People do drive across a field in a car to cut wood. People do have scaners at home. Did someone hear this dispatch and call and say they had someone going to this field to cut wood? We don't know that answer. I have driven across a field in a car to cut wood and I wasn't going real slow either. All I have to say is that this is a very unfortunate event. My sympathy to the family of the victims in the car. May God Bless you and be with you. For the Monroe's and the police officers involved there will always be WHAT IFS in an incident like this. BOTH parties should remember this event and change what they do the next time. THere is nothing that can be done now to help those two people in that car. We can only hope and pray this doesn't happen again. I feel that the MONROE'S and the POLICE could have saved a life.
Concerned

Saint Louis, MO

#13 Feb 21, 2008
The Officer is at fault. I believe the Monroe's were concerned enough that if they wern't LIED to about the person being checking on and if they wernt told everything was OK they would have checked on the car themselves. Officer's get calls daily that turn out to be nothing, but in this case he didn't even check. Police Officer's are suppose to save lives....And when there are 911 calls (notice I said CALLS) like this it should have been INVESTIGATED reguardless. It's a shame that this could have been prevented. I hope this officer never forgets how much this family hurts, and has forever changed their lives.
Erin

Saint Louis, MO

#14 Feb 21, 2008
Police officer's are held to higher standards, we are suppose to be able to trust them. We shouldn't have to question that.

My prayers are with the victims family!
Concerns

Jackson, MO

#15 Feb 21, 2008
Baffled,
So what you are saying is that the caller should go back and check on the vehicle. What if the car was full of drug dealers getting ready to cook a batch of Methamphetamine? On top of that, they are all high thus justifying the irratic driving. In a lot of instances, guns are commonly assosiated with drugs. So now you are putting civilians in harms way!!!
baffled wrote:
I don't know all of the details and I am sure that most people posting here don't either. I do believe that the police should have checked farther in the field. But the so called good samaritans could have also went to check. One could have stayed on the road and antoher go and check. THey could have walked acroos the field or was it TOO COLD FOR THEM TO GET OUT OF THEIR CARS TO SEE IF EVERYONE WAS ALL RIGHT. The exact same thing they are accusing the police of. I am not siding with either one because I believe that they are both wrong. THere are a lot of questions that need answered here. If the person in the car was waving their arms then took off again-what does that mean? DId the call go check? NO! People do drive across a field in a car to cut wood. People do have scaners at home. Did someone hear this dispatch and call and say they had someone going to this field to cut wood? We don't know that answer. I have driven across a field in a car to cut wood and I wasn't going real slow either. All I have to say is that this is a very unfortunate event. My sympathy to the family of the victims in the car. May God Bless you and be with you. For the Monroe's and the police officers involved there will always be WHAT IFS in an incident like this. BOTH parties should remember this event and change what they do the next time. THere is nothing that can be done now to help those two people in that car. We can only hope and pray this doesn't happen again. I feel that the MONROE'S and the POLICE could have saved a life.
Phillips

Auburn, IN

#16 Feb 21, 2008
Karen, are you talking about the same tax dollars that the Police Officers pay out of their paycheck. You people are so stupid. Nobody talks about all the good things Police Officers do, but when they make a mistake like any other humane, they are put under a microscope. You can sit here and talk all the crap you want, but the next time you need the Police to raise your kids, break up a fight between you and your spouse, or solve any other problem you hillbillies have, don't call them.
Karen wrote:
I'd say the Good Samaritan Law was followed to a "t" by the 911 callers. Those people went over and above, actually staying close to the scene, waiting on the officers, pointing out the car. How about our tax-payer dollars being spent on deputies who evidently pick and choose what to investigate further? Weather too cold for you? Didn't want to drive your cars across a field? Ever wonder why someone would be cutting wood using a car that drove diagonally across a field cultivated field at a pretty good clip? Seem a bit curious to you, deputies??? Sounds very reminiscent of a tornado ripping apart houses a couple years ago south of DeKalb High School. Seems a failure to investigate was also "investigated further and wouldn't happen again" at that time. hummmm...... THIS time someone died. I guess now we can watch our tax dollars go toward the liklihood of a lawsuit. Unbelievable!!
Concerns

Jackson, MO

#17 Feb 21, 2008
Phillips,
And I would say that if this was your father, brother, or good friend that died as the result someones negligence, then you would have a completely different take on this. The reason people call the police, is for the police to handle a situation that can't be handled by the people. Unfortunaltely in this case, it wasn't handled at all.
Phillips wrote:
Karen, are you talking about the same tax dollars that the Police Officers pay out of their paycheck. You people are so stupid. Nobody talks about all the good things Police Officers do, but when they make a mistake like any other humane, they are put under a microscope. You can sit here and talk all the crap you want, but the next time you need the Police to raise your kids, break up a fight between you and your spouse, or solve any other problem you hillbillies have, don't call them.
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Left Wondering

Indianapolis, IN

#18 Feb 21, 2008
In reading all these postings I am left wondering and amazed that the public really has no idea.
The blame falls 100% on the Sheriff's Department. The dispatcher's who took the call, and the Deputies that were to lazy to fully investigate the situation.
We as citizen are not trained or have the resources to handle a situation should it make a turn for the worse. We don't go to school for months and months for special training. If we are to handle problems on our own, then why don't we just incorrporate a Law Enforcement 101 into our schools. Come on people, we as citizen did not take an oath to protect and serve our cities. I'm wondering just how much we really are protected and served.

I applaude the caller for even picking up the phone and calling in. I'm sure many people just drove right by, thinking someone else would call.. And then having the presence to stay in the area and try to give further information. Good God, how much more clear can you get than "a dark blue Pontiac" and "due west of you"

Now I don't know about you, but I have never gone to cut wood with a car, let alone drive across a planted field. Come on let's use some common sense here.
I can't believe that a trained Deputy would not get out of his or her vehicle and LOOK for tracks given they could not be seen from within the vehicle. And if found, FOLLOW THEM. When are the police leary of talking to someone? None I have ever run into.

Chris

Ligonier, IN

#19 Feb 21, 2008
Maybe the eyewitness should have gone out into the field to see if they needed help. They sound so concerned now, but obviously they werent that concerned to go out and check the vehicle themselves. What has happened to people helping each other out. We all want the government to solve are problems and do everything for us.
Confused

Lincoln, CA

#20 Feb 21, 2008
Left Wondering wrote:
In reading all these postings I am left wondering and amazed that the public really has no idea.
The blame falls 100% on the Sheriff's Department. The dispatcher's who took the call, and the Deputies that were to lazy to fully investigate the situation.
We as citizen are not trained or have the resources to handle a situation should it make a turn for the worse. We don't go to school for months and months for special training. If we are to handle problems on our own, then why don't we just incorrporate a Law Enforcement 101 into our schools. Come on people, we as citizen did not take an oath to protect and serve our cities. I'm wondering just how much we really are protected and served.
I applaude the caller for even picking up the phone and calling in. I'm sure many people just drove right by, thinking someone else would call.. And then having the presence to stay in the area and try to give further information. Good God, how much more clear can you get than "a dark blue Pontiac" and "due west of you"
Now I don't know about you, but I have never gone to cut wood with a car, let alone drive across a planted field. Come on let's use some common sense here.
I can't believe that a trained Deputy would not get out of his or her vehicle and LOOK for tracks given they could not be seen from within the vehicle. And if found, FOLLOW THEM. When are the police leary of talking to someone? None I have ever run into.
What did the Dispatchers due wrong ?

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