Avoid the ATA McDojo...

Avoid the ATA McDojo...

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Concerned Parent

Marion, OH

#1 Oct 31, 2009
My children spent two years training at the ATA school in Auburn only to find out that the black belts they were given (which cost us a lot of money) are not any good at any other place in the world of martial arts other than in an ATA school.

The ATA charges twice as much as any other school in the area, uses high pressure sales tactics and teaches some crap as a martial art. My oldest is 16 and was a champion with them yet he was not even able to keep up with the green belts at his new school that teach real martial arts.

My wife and I despise the ATA and their lies, giving of belts to people who do not deserve them and getting people to believe they teach a real martial art. It is sad that people are duped. Boycott the ATA (American Tae Kwon Do Association) schools in Ft. Wayne, Auburn and Angola...they are scammers.
Alex Lowe

United States

#2 Dec 9, 2009
I did a year at the Traverse City ATA.. 7 year old black belts playing with barbie Dolls .."whats wrong with this picture" ...its a huge scam, you get a belt no matter what! Just show up and you will be a black belt with no moves!
Get A Life

Marion, OH

#3 Jan 18, 2010
I agree that ALL the ATA schools are junk. Self made up lies, high prices for lack luster training, kid black belts that have no idea how to even do a proper technique...and more. What a joke. The ones in Auburn, Kendallville and Angola are by far the biggest jokes...especially thier so called wanna be instructors. Avoid the ATA!
Martial Artist - Parent

Fort Dodge, IA

#4 Oct 8, 2010
This site always make me laugh...
Unprofessional school owners/martial artists that have nothing better to do then bash other schools.
Spend more time training and working to better yourself and your own school(s).
Law Abiding Citizen

Bellingham, MA

#5 Feb 10, 2011
Makes me laugh to...especially since everything stated about the ATA is true. That place is a total joke and so is what they teach there. Money is not the goal of martial arts...TRUE skill is.
Proud of my style

Warrenville, IL

#6 May 16, 2011
It amazes me that people make post, that are so far out there...

First off, if your kid was a State Champ and can not keep up with others in your new school then I would say your son has a problem..

My son is a 1st Degree and competes in the ATA and Open tournaments, and does VERY well...

If you are truly a parent of an ATA student and you had a bad experience then you should have done something about it. It DOES NOT take a rocket scientist to see that they are NOT learning proper technique..
You sound more like a troll attempting to stir up controversy...
The One That Knows

United States

#7 Sep 19, 2011
ATA sucks enough said...find a real martial arts school that teaches real martial arts instead of just selling you belts.
hank the redneck

Austin, TX

#8 Mar 17, 2012
Its true the ATA sucks I still have flashbacks of when I went their as a kid 15 years ago. It is Truly the BigMac of McDojos.
Omaha ATa

United States

#9 Apr 8, 2012
Come to my school.
Conroe Texas

Houston, TX

#10 Apr 17, 2012
My son has only been in ATA for 5 months now and I wish to God that i had never placed my name on that contract. Its all about the money and not the childeren. I am not even sure how to get out of the contract with these people. HELP!
I learned too late

Pomona, CA

#11 Apr 19, 2012
Conroe Texas wrote:
My son has only been in ATA for 5 months now and I wish to God that i had never placed my name on that contract. Its all about the money and not the childeren. I am not even sure how to get out of the contract with these people. HELP!
there is a cancellation fee written into your contract. You can pay them to release you.
dem

Virginia Beach, VA

#12 May 30, 2012
Conroe Texas wrote:
My son has only been in ATA for 5 months now and I wish to God that i had never placed my name on that contract. Its all about the money and not the childeren. I am not even sure how to get out of the contract with these people. HELP!

if they made promies and ur not getting the results that u paid for....then that's breech of contract...get a lawyer...don't let tem get away with it.
Kimberly

United States

#13 Jul 19, 2012
I wish your school was closer if u truly teach ata with real skills. As a parent of a green belt who was in a junk ata school I am doing something. I pulled my kid out and am looking to find someone who will teach him real skills in martial arts!
Kimberly

United States

#14 Jul 19, 2012
Let them come after me for money. I'll see them in court! It is breech of contract for not doing the job they were paid to do and then placing him into a totally different class... Just so they can make more money. I make sure they try to get any money from me they will end up with the bad publicity they truly deserve!]
Alexandre

Los Angeles, CA

#15 Aug 18, 2012
My wife and I were victimized by Tae Kwon Do here in Los Angeles - Orange County area. I think we made a mistake of telling the grandmaster that our 6 year old son intents to be a blackbelt. That's when the master made his sales pitch. We paid $2,600 cash upfront plus almost every 2 months paying belt testing fee of from $50 to $100. My young son is now red belt after a year of attendance. His class is composed of almost all white belts and yellow belts and they do running, squatting and simple exercises. The master teaches the same beginner steps in 15 minutes per session to all belts. We wish we were not taken advantage of. We wish my son attended a real martial arts school, not TKD.
all about the money now

Sioux Falls, SD

#16 Aug 22, 2012
I admit the quality of ATA has gone down hill. I had been in it for over 20yrs. I started when I was 4yrs old. Back then it was very rare to see children in this organization. Back when you sparred without pads, broke real wood boards, not the cheap plastic ones, and actually had to work at it. When 4th and 5th degrees were considered higher ranks and actually had some talent. They said they would never implement weapons because it was too much like "other" organizations. And look what happened, weapons (fake plastic ones),xma(a big joke) and ground fighting...really. In a no contact sparring organization, they are trying to teach ground fighting??? haha. It's funny now how much padding you have to wear now, but yet it's no contact. Of couse they market it, saying it's for insurance/liablity purposes. Why not just say what it really is for....to get more money out of the students/parents. It is just about the $$, so the old, out of shape, "masters" can get rich. Anybody every heard of a pyramid scheme. ATA is about the same thing now. Don't waste your time or money on this organization. They have truely forgotten about the martial arts aspect. What a shame. I really feel sorry for them.
ATA Parent from WI

Milwaukee, WI

#17 Sep 13, 2012
Very well put!!! Thank You!
Proud of my style wrote:
It amazes me that people make post, that are so far out there...
First off, if your kid was a State Champ and can not keep up with others in your new school then I would say your son has a problem..
My son is a 1st Degree and competes in the ATA and Open tournaments, and does VERY well...
If you are truly a parent of an ATA student and you had a bad experience then you should have done something about it. It DOES NOT take a rocket scientist to see that they are NOT learning proper technique..
You sound more like a troll attempting to stir up controversy...
Fn Hilarious

Fayette, OH

#18 Feb 19, 2013
This whole thing is as terrible as the ATA schools are at teaching anything about martial arts...
beware mcdojos

West Hartford, CT

#19 Apr 23, 2013
I know about bad mcdojos. The Villari places stink like no tomorrow.
McFarland99

United States

#20 Apr 25, 2013
As an ATA school owner, I admit that there are some bad instructors and bad schools but they don't last. We teach real martial arts in our school. We have exmilitary and current law inforcement people in our school with real combat experience. They train with us because they say our stuff really works. But that is in our school and I do all I can to bring in the best. Krav and other art forms are taught by certified guests instructors. As far as being in good physical condition. I am 63 years old and can pass the Marine physical requirements for and 18 year old. That seem pretty real to me.

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