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There are 720 comments on the NBC 5i Dallas/Fort Worth story from Jun 19, 2008, titled BREAKING NEWS: One Dead After Police-Involved Shooting At Rockw.... In it, NBC 5i Dallas/Fort Worth reports that:

Police said Thursday one person is dead after a shooting involving a Garland Police officer.

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DDD

Dallas, TX

#23 Jun 20, 2008
Lets all just remember that every one involved has a family... and there are sides to this story that will never be told.
How sad.. They are all in my prays!!
PZHGDS

Madison, WI

#28 Jun 21, 2008
I knew Troy. I do believe that there are 2 sides & then the truth. We may never know the truth about what really happened, however we know that his family is left to pick up the pieces of their broken hearts and try to put their lives back together. Instead of bashing Troy, & others on here take that same energy and pray for his 12 yr old, his wife, his brother, etc. Walk a mile in their shoes and then come back here and see if your comments would be the same. What if it was your brother, son, friend, or father? Think before you speak!! Troy was a great friend, loving & supportive husband, attentive and caring father, and many more things that this world will no longer get the priviledge to know. Can all of you sit there and say you have never made a decision that others would think you are NUTS for, yet others only heard half the story? If you can really say that I'll read your comments, but I guarantee you that NOT one of you on this board can honestly say that. One finger pointing at others mean 4 are point at YOU!!! I do believe the REAL story is yet to be told. Troy would not have pulled a gun on a COP! How do you know the other person in the arguement was not threating TROY! And BTW LALA1 check your facts- The policeman was in plainclothed, NOT in Uniform. That has been reported for all channels of the news. This is how rumors and fabrcations of the story get started. Troy you will be so MISSED! Your family is in my thoughts and prayers. REMEMBER THIS COULD BE ANYONE OF YOU OR YOUR FAMILY. Think and then TYPE!
Craig

Royse City, TX

#29 Jun 21, 2008
I also knew Troy for more than 9 years. I know that Troy would have had to feel threatened by the two guys to pull a gun...btw, that gun was not even loaded....I know several Garland/Rockwall Police Officers and Garland Gun Cops are "Gun Happy". They would rather shoot and ask questions later...the story on the news is not the whole true story...there are two sides to every story and Troy is no longer here to tell his side. He was shot and killed "sitting" in his car when he was shot numerous times, HOW much of a threat can you be when sitting in your car...the cop could have shot in him is leg...he could have told him he was a cop and asked him to put the gun down. I have had friends that were cops in the same situation, they told the person with the gun that they were a cop and they put the gun down.,,,,and, who was the guy that he was in the altercation with? Where is his side of the story? HMMMM....Was he friends or did he know the cop? We still need more answers...I hope Brandon Hernandez has a REALLY hard time going to sleep at night thinking about the person he killed, unjustly, and the widow, child, family and friends that he left behind...we will all never be the same now. Mr. Hernandez does not deserve to remain a police officer....what is he going to do? Go around town shooting and killing people everytime he "feels" threatened? Nice training, Brandon....you could have done something different. I hope you feel good about MURDERING someone while sitting in their car, behind the wheel, with an UNLOADED gun. I know that you didn't know the gun was unloaded, but WE know Troy would have never even shot anyone, even if you werent a cop...he just felt threatened and we will find out why...to be continued....
Jennifer

Palestine, TX

#31 Jun 21, 2008
you know what...i used to think the same thing.....guy pulls a gun and he deserves to get shot. However this incident is totally different. I KNEW TROY and he would have never pulled a gun with the intention of using it. He was (i'm sure) in fear for his life. The cop was IN PLAIN CLOTHING .....LISTEN people then respond...... and shot multiple times COME ON. Troy was not a violent person. And ya know what ASSholio (well your name says it all) you should be very careful what you wish upon people and I'm sorry to disappoint you but troy was a CHRISTIAN and is in HEAVEN I know this for a fact....Like I said I grew up with him. He was just caught up in a bad situation. So I erge you to please choose your words more wisely.
Juli

Denton, TX

#32 Jun 21, 2008
My sympathy to the family of Troy. I hope that he was the great guy that his friends speak of. I would like to think that he is in the arms of Jesus right now. I wish Officer Hernandez well also. I would think that a person that lays his life on the line daily to serve the public WOULD have issues after taking a life. My prayers are with him as well as the family of the deceased.
Juli

Denton, TX

#33 Jun 21, 2008
The problem is that the police officer did NOT know that Troy would never actually use the gun that pointed at him. It is my understanding that Troy was the aggressor. It is truly unfortunate that his last act was something that was uncharacteristic of him.
amne

Mckinney, TX

#34 Jun 21, 2008
this young man -Troy Van Poole was a great kid growing up, very respectable , kind, caring, give ya the shirt off his back. he grew up with my son's and my family felt he was like of of our own. he was also a great family man and father. the officer prob./ most likely did NOT anounce he was a off duty officer. Troy was Not a violent person, he prob. felt threatened , he was on his way back after fixing his teeth at dentist. this is a very sad loss . I feel I lost one of my son"s . AS A CHILD HE CALLED ME MOM. He will truly be missed. and I pray to GOD the truth will come out -what really happened. Heart broken in Garland Tx. I love you Troy and will miss you terribly. God bless tour soul and peace be with your family.
Cristin

Irving, TX

#37 Jun 21, 2008
You are sadly mistaken!! This was just a case of a trigger happy cop!!!! The victim shot NEVER pointed the gun at the officer. If you weren't ther than you don't know what the hell happened!!
Kevin Dooley wrote:
BTW, the two men originally involved in the altercation drove into the parking lot because one of them was actually going to Lake Pointe (he is a coach at the sports ministry there). The young man who was shot followed him there due to some kind of "road rage" incident. When the officer tried to de-escalate, the young man pulled a gun and that's when the officer shot the young man. The coach and officer were unharmed. The incident happened between 5 and 6pm.
Cristin

Irving, TX

#40 Jun 21, 2008
I would like to change my previous statement. Troy would have never pulled a gun on a COP or individual. He would have to fear for his life. All of you are just assuming what the cop says is the truth. Like we haven't heard "He pointed a weapon at me" so I shot him. He is not going to admit if he was in the wrong. I guese because the altercation was with a church member so that makes him automatically in the wrong. I will be glad when the truth comes out and all you people can choke on your words. Who are any of you to judge or try and condemn him to hell?!?
Meredith

United States

#41 Jun 21, 2008
First of all... dont you think he was protecting them when the officer walked up? Because the man in the mustang would probably have shot the sports ministy coach if the off duty cop wasnt there. Second... the sports ministry is for kids and play soccer and basketball against other teams in the ministry. All the coaches are volunteers and the majority of them are dads of the children involved in the ministry. Just thought i would clear things up
Dave wrote:
A "coach" at the "sports ministry"? I must have missed that chapter of the Bible. Let's have a look... oh my bad, here it is... the 11th commandment states "thou shalt bench press 100 pounds or more to show the brethren thy strength in Christ".

Since: Jun 08

Mocksville, NC

#42 Jun 21, 2008
Kevin Dooley wrote:
Victim? The man shot was the aggressor - the instigator of the entire situation. He was no victim, he just paid the consequences of his actions. Please choose words carefully, as they actually do mean something.
I do believe the truth will come out regarding this senseless tragedy in which Troy WAS unfortunately a victim. Did he make an error in judgement and confront someone about cutting him off in traffic? Undoubtably. Haven't 90% of us felt like telling the other driver off one time or another? Troy NEVER got out of his CAR! There was no PHYSICAL altercation whatsoever between Troy and the driver of the other car. Only VERBAL. The officer never identified himself as a police officer, but approached the car on the passenger side, and ESCALATED the situation rather than DIFFUSING the situation!!! He could have said "Just calm down,Dude. I'm a Garland Police officer, and I don't want to have to take you in for disturbing the peace or whatever." End of story. Troy would not have shown his gun(of which he is protected by the"Castle Law" that covers you INSIDE your vehicle in Texas)and he would have gone HOME to his wife and son that evening. So, yes Troy was a VICTIM. He didn't know who this burly, aggressive, guy is that's confronting him through his PASSENGER side window. It is important to choose our words and judgements carefully. Troy was one of the GOOD GUYS. That's what people that KNOW him are trying to get out there. Did he make a mistake confronting the other driver? You Bet! He wasn't PERFECT-just HUMAN. And it cost him his LIFE. Think about it.

Since: Jun 08

Mocksville, NC

#43 Jun 21, 2008
To Meredith-See this is what I mean. You ASSUME the officer was protecting the driver(sports minister some believe) and now the CHILDREN on the parking lot. There was no gun shown at ANY time during the verbal exchange between Troy and the driver. The officer HEARD the exchange and went over and intervened. It was on a church parking lot-it was wrong on Troy's part-and he should have been told to leave. No one disputes that. But-was it handled correctly? This wasn't some MANIAC pointing a gun at people!!! He was still in his car-the officer walked up out of his line of vision-on the PASSENGER side-and startled him obviously. He carried a gun in the car as do many businessmen and others for protection now days from carjackings,robberies,etc. In this instance that gun cost him his life- rather than saving it. He was shot multiple times, SITTING,in his car on the drivers side behind the steering wheel. Something is VERY WRONG with this picture! As for children-Troy adored his son and never missed his baseball or basketball games. But he will now.
Renee

United States

#47 Jun 21, 2008
My thought is that people should not really worrie about how it happen and just know that it did and someone lost their loved one and instead of people gossiping about it we all should all just pray for their family.
joi

United States

#52 Jun 21, 2008
Cristin wrote:
You are sadly mistaken!! This was just a case of a trigger happy cop!!!! The victim shot NEVER pointed the gun at the officer. If you weren't ther than you don't know what the hell happened!!
<quoted text>
So, from what you are saying, you were there. Please let us know what you saw.
tx mom 5

Denton, TX

#56 Jun 22, 2008
Confused wrote:
This article is another example of why the mainstream media is dropping readers like flies at a Raid party. Who is whom? Was the dead guy arguing with another individual, and the officer intervened? Is the cop the one with whom the victim was arguing? Was their business at the church, or were they just driving by?
Nice writing. J-school paid off really, really well.
The guy was "cut off" by a van who was coming off of 30 (the guy in the mustang was supposed to yeild to the traffic coming off of the ramp) and turning in the church for bball practice. The mustang man did not like that and pulled in behind him to confront him. Brandon tried to intervene and help the situation - esp where kids were present and defended himself and everyone around him. It is obvious that the guy (mustang man) had anger issues and ego issues. I feel for his family but his actions dictated his fate.
tx mom 5

Denton, TX

#57 Jun 22, 2008
Craig wrote:
I also knew Troy for more than 9 years. I know that Troy would have had to feel threatened by the two guys to pull a gun...btw, that gun was not even loaded....I know several Garland/Rockwall Police Officers and Garland Gun Cops are "Gun Happy". They would rather shoot and ask questions later...the story on the news is not the whole true story...there are two sides to every story and Troy is no longer here to tell his side. He was shot and killed "sitting" in his car when he was shot numerous times, HOW much of a threat can you be when sitting in your car...the cop could have shot in him is leg...he could have told him he was a cop and asked him to put the gun down. I have had friends that were cops in the same situation, they told the person with the gun that they were a cop and they put the gun down.,,,,and, who was the guy that he was in the altercation with? Where is his side of the story? HMMMM....Was he friends or did he know the cop? We still need more answers...I hope Brandon Hernandez has a REALLY hard time going to sleep at night thinking about the person he killed, unjustly, and the widow, child, family and friends that he left behind...we will all never be the same now. Mr. Hernandez does not deserve to remain a police officer....what is he going to do? Go around town shooting and killing people everytime he "feels" threatened? Nice training, Brandon....you could have done something different. I hope you feel good about MURDERING someone while sitting in their car, behind the wheel, with an UNLOADED gun. I know that you didn't know the gun was unloaded, but WE know Troy would have never even shot anyone, even if you werent a cop...he just felt threatened and we will find out why...to be continued....
Craig - i am sorry for your loss. I know Brandon and he is not "gun Happy" he was defending himself and the kids around. This would not have happened if troy just drove on instead of trying to argue about getting cut off when he should have just yeilded and drove on and not make such a big deal. His decision cost him his life. Again i am sorry and can totally understand why you would defend him - i probably would too - but in this case you cannot help but see that this did not have to happen had he just drove on instead of making a big deal over a driving incident - obviously life is too short to worry about things like that. My prayers are with everyone involved - including his family.
Anonymous

United States

#58 Jun 22, 2008
I was actually there. I'm indifferent about the whole situation, but I know that the off duty cop, and the other people involved are well intentioned people and they would not kill someone for the heck of it. I think Troy followed the guy into the parking lot thinking he would just scare him, or something. Never with the intention of hurting anyone. The one thing the media has gotten wrong in this whole thing is that it was a one-sided arguement. Troy was the only one who was really pissed off and raising his voice, everyone else was calm, and the sad truth is, he did pull a gun out and threatened to use it. Since there were a lot of innocent people around (most being children), the cop really had no choice.

Everyone involved is really taking it hard, and they are praying for Troy and his family.
tx mom 5

Denton, TX

#59 Jun 22, 2008
Anonymous wrote:
I was actually there. I'm indifferent about the whole situation, but I know that the off duty cop, and the other people involved are well intentioned people and they would not kill someone for the heck of it. I think Troy followed the guy into the parking lot thinking he would just scare him, or something. Never with the intention of hurting anyone. The one thing the media has gotten wrong in this whole thing is that it was a one-sided arguement. Troy was the only one who was really pissed off and raising his voice, everyone else was calm, and the sad truth is, he did pull a gun out and threatened to use it. Since there were a lot of innocent people around (most being children), the cop really had no choice.
Everyone involved is really taking it hard, and they are praying for Troy and his family.
Anon - you are exactly right - indifferent is a good way to describe the situation - I have been on mission trips with Brandon and in no way would he ever instigate an argument but rather try to create the calm you describe. It is a very sad situation.
Perspective

Aledo, TX

#60 Jun 22, 2008
I am sorry someone lost their life. Craig...Police officers are not trained to shoot people in the leg. Also, if someone points a gun at you from a car, do you know that it is not loaded? Do you have time to check? Officers are killed every year by people sitting in their vehicles. Cicada...The officer probably approached the passenger window because if the occupant had a weapon (he did) the officer would be somewhat protected. The whole situation is sad, however, my children attend events at the church as do many others that could have been injured or killed. Troy allegedly got upset in traffic, chose to follow the other vehicle, and then chose to pull out a handgun (loaded or not) and he then had to face the consequences of his decisions. I am more sorry than words can express for Troy's family, but to "hope that the officer can't sleep" or to speculate about his training before the investigation is complete is wrong.
I wonder

Denton, TX

#61 Jun 22, 2008
I wonder if the medication that Troy was administered during his dental visit altered his perspective on things. I know someone that cannot leave the medical facility until HOURS after a procedure because anesthetic drugs make him violent.

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