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#1 Aug 16, 2014
First, I can no longer support the protests. Brown was a strong-arm robber who probably did attack the officer which resulted in Brown being killed.
That said, this situation shows exactly what is wrong with the black community. The 'good' protestors are now left with the job of protesting and guarding the stores. Why? Because the community 'leaders'(if you can call these clowns leaders) have asked the police not to try to stop looters. SMDH
So now you have unarmed civilians standing in front of stores. As soon as they leave, the stores are looted. It's the 'good' black people against the bad(looters) and the incompetent(community leaders). And guess who dies in these situations? The good black people.
Police have told store owners they can't do anything. Even the state police have refused to respond. And state police were the ones supposedly called in to help deal with the situation.
And speaking of the protestors, why they can't see that the robbery video matters is beyond me. They have tunnel vision just as bad as the racists. The video clearly shows this guy isn't the big teddy bear everyone claimed he was and that he is very capable of physical assault. That's why the robbery is important.
And as far as him having his hands up, I now take that with a grain of salt because the same people said he was a big teddy bear.
Once again, the black community has dropped the ball. Our community 'leaders' constantly cater to the dregs of the black community. During the Civil Rights movement, they catered to the good. They also had white support because they catered to the good. Now, the division grows deeper because everyone on the outside knows they are full of shat and catering to thugs.
Just a rant..... just finished some work and this issue was the first thing popped up on my homepage.
#2 Aug 16, 2014
On Fox website it says that the store owners showed up with guns. I don't think the police can stop them either. After all, when they started rioting again this morning, the police just stood by and watched as the vandals tore up the stores.
The thing is, if the police won't do anything, then of course they will keep on coming back. Maybe a store owner or two need to blow some of these SOB"s away and that will make them think twice about damaging private property.
This is one of the few times I'm glad I live in Ohio. We are armed and won't put up with ship like that. The laws are on our side in Ohio.
#3 Aug 16, 2014
I'm with you on this, Mapleman. Like I said in another post, how is it that looting and burning down stores of business owners helping the cause of the protesters? People who work hard for a living to keep their businesses in business have nothing to do with that so called teddy bear teenager's death. So, why take it out on them?
If a gang of pea brained black thugglets were burning down my house, and I jump out the back window with my guns, should I go and start shooting up houses where I know blacks live? If these people in these houses I'm shooting up don't know these thugglets and have nothing to do with them, is this the right thing for me to do? Hell no! But these black gangs are just violent animals from the start and just feast on situations like this shooting because they need to cause trouble. It's just in their genes.
And as for the police down there in Ferguson blabbing on who the cop was, I thought the police departments were like a brotherhood and protect each other. I guess not. I guess it's every man for himself. All I know is if they make laws where I live saying if someone breaks into my house, take the thugglets around and show them where all my valuables are and help them load them in my car and give them money for gas.....ha....I don't think so. I'd rather send the b/stards to the morgue.
And did anyone hear about the councilman in Ferguson that was standing on a street with a bull horn encouraging the looters to take everything? I just hear it on a talk show on the radio. I also heard that
O'Bammer was the one that ordered the police down there to stand down and leave them loot. O'Bammer sure is ruining this country day by day. He shouldn't be in the Whitehouse, he should be in the Gray Bar Hotel with all his accomplices.
#5 Aug 16, 2014
Obama gave no such order. The State Police are backing down. The entire situation is a mess. The store owners themselves are posting on the Internet about the lack of police support. There are also videos of black residents trying to protect the stores from the thugs.
Once again, the dregs of black society will ruin it for the good black people. Some of these stores won't reopen. The police know that. By not protecting the stores, they are letting the thugs chase out the businesses that the decent black people use. Store owners will just take their insurance money and relocate. Some may not be able to afford to reopen.
But at least the thugs got some cigars for blunts, liquor, and chips out of the deal.
#6 Aug 16, 2014
Your point is right on. When blacks start moving into a white neighborhood, this is what the neighbors think of.
They ask themselves if they want to live with people that are involved in these types of activities? Riots, gang fights, drugs...... and then we have white flight because civilized people don't want to live this way.
#7 Aug 16, 2014
I don't blame them. Believe it or not, black people do the same shat. That's why I moved to the edge of the city. I'm away from all the nonsense.
And if you're opposed to the nonsense, your blackness will be called into question. And for some reason, that frightens and intimidates a good number of decent black people.
While I was abroad, there was none of this crap. Black people overseas don't act like this. Granted, there weren't that many in the countries I was in, but in those black communities there wasn't any worship of thug culture like you see here.
The only place that came close was London. And it is a distant second. The black community in America could learn a lot from black communities elsewhere in the world.
#8 Aug 16, 2014
Black people are not a problem when they represent a similar percentage of people compared to the US population. Once blacks exceed the 40% line, that's when problems start.
In jest, my father actually came up with a good idea. He said that the way to solve these problems is to have a law that only one black family can live on any given street in America. They would actually assimilate into a white community with little or no problems. If one gets out of line, the police have a good idea of who they are looking for.
That's kind of the way it was in Maple and Garfield years ago. The problem is once blacks start to move in and feel comfortable, they call all their friends and family to join them. But I digress. This just in:
Police activity in Maple Heights
Posted: Aug 16, 2014 3:31 PM EDT
Updated: Aug 16, 2014 7:47 PM EDT
Brunswick and Dunham in Maple Heights.
MAPLE HEIGHTS, OH (WOIO)-
Maple Height Police responded to a house at the intersection of Brunswick and Dunham Saturday afternoon.
A male viewer says about 10 police cruisers were called in.
A neighbor nearby said she saw the coroner and Crime Scene Investigation Unit. She also said she saw a body being taken out of the house, but police have not confirmed any details.
Police tape has blocked off the house for now. After a couple hours investigating, all units left the scene.
Both viewers said they saw people crying.
Few details are available at this time.
#9 Aug 16, 2014
Black people in affordable housing destroy neighborhoods, not regular black people. If you lived next to me, you wouldn't even know I was there. Same with all of the black people I surround myself with.
But it's these low-class people that destroy everything and ruin it for everyone in the neighborhood.
We(black people since they murder us and our children the most) try to get away from them, but the government keeps sponsoring them. Without government sponsorship, the only black people who would be in white neighborhoods would be people like myself.
Now I know how you feel about the housing discrimination laws, but decent black people need those laws in place so we can escape from these thugs. What needs to be reformed is affordable housing and section 8. That shat needs to stay in poor communities. It would create much needed class separation.
This is clearly a class issue. The black lower class in America is out of control. They make the white lower class look like Yale graduates. Not even black people want to be around lower class black people.
Overseas, black lower-class people are more like white lower-class people in America. That's why they don't have problems like here in the states.
As for that story, I wonder what happened.
#10 Aug 17, 2014
As long as we have fair housing laws, then we will always have these problems.
White people and black people think entirely different. Most white lower class people want nothing to do with middle-class, upper-class or wealthy people so they stay in their own neighborhoods. With blacks, as long as they can get into any neighborhood, they will, and they don't care if they hate the people there or the people there hate them.
As for myself and I think most white people as well, if we are not wanted somewhere, we don't go. If I wanted to rent or buy a place from somebody or some people that didn't want me there, I don't want to be there. I'll go to someplace where the people there do want me.
I think I told you about that close friend of mine from this city that came into a lot of money. He didn't move from here to an upper-class community because he knew he would never get along with those people, and these are people not only of his same race, but some from the same ethnic background. He didn't go.
With black people, the more they know they are not wanted, the more they want to be there. This is what happened to Warner Road years ago.
You can't blame this entirely on HUD or landlords. Lowlifes work too and yes, some that make enough money to afford to live in the suburbs without housing assistance.
#11 Aug 17, 2014
I happened to drive past that corner house on Brunswick and Dunham and saw all the cop cars. I saw two black women hugging each other and crying like you see on the news when someone's killed. Just another day in Maple Hts., eh?
#12 Aug 17, 2014
The country is over 70 percent white. Where are we supposed to move without being around white people? That's like saying black people shouldn't go to work because the company is 70 percent white and those white people might not like you. It's unrealistic. This is about class.
Fair housing laws don't mean we have to fund the dregs to move to suburbs. It means that when I have money in my pocket from my hard work I can't be refused housing based on the color of my skin. Period.
Affordable housing is putting people who can't afford to be in an area into that area. That's when neighborhoods go bad. It's low-income black people who are committing most of the crime. It's the government that is destroying projects and spreading the ghetto to the suburbs via affordable housing.
Affordable housing is unfair housing. While one person pays $700 to be in an area, another person is paying $250. It's criminal and should be restricted to low-income communities.
#13 Aug 17, 2014
Makes you wonder if somebody didn't call the newsroom if we would know anything about it at all......
#14 Aug 17, 2014
Correct, and that goes the same for lowlifes that happen to have the money to rent or buy in Maple Heights too.
If a black person I suspect is a lowlife applies to rent one of my apartments, and a white who looks to be less of a problem does the same, I by law have to offer it to the black person first. Otherwise I could be hauled into court for discrimination charges.
Okay, then do a background check. That may be fine unless you are talking about a younger person who has little background to check, or was otherwise a criminal as a juvenile which records are impossible to get.
The laws that you think we should keep that benefit you are the very same that puts you at a disadvantage because the laws were not written just for you. They were written for everybody in your race.
What these laws do is remove the human element. I can't use instinct, opinion, or observance to make a sound judgement as I have done repeatedly with white applicants in the past. If a person has X, X and X to rent an apartment, I have to rent that apartment to them because of the color of their skin.
Unless this country turns overwhelmingly conservative, don't look for changes anytime soon be it fair housing laws, HUD or any other program that ushers these people into our neighborhoods. For every person such as yourself that is against putting lower income people into nice neighborhoods, there are two that are for it just the way you are for fair housing laws.
#15 Aug 17, 2014
I know the bankers would never let the government programs die. The government programs bring in money. Once the government destabilizes neighborhoods by moving in people who couldn't otherwise afford to be there, people flee and take out more mortgages. Banks make money.
Years later, developers sometimes come in and use gentrification to make a killing. NYC and parts of DC are prime examples of this.
Furthermore, seeding black neighborhoods with lowlifes helps keep black people destabilized. That destabilization is needed for the multi-billion dollar prison industry.
Is it not a Republican talking point to say how the 'war on poverty' has helped ruin the black community? The ruin is so great, one would think it was by design because surely an accident wouldn't be allowed to remain in place this long. Affordable housing is part of the 'war on poverty.'
Affordable housing is basically government-sanctioned blockbusting. I know it's not going to end nor is it going to be altered to benefit communities. It's going to keep going so that the game of 'mortgage' musical chairs and community destabilization will continue.
If only fair housing laws existed, people would be separated by class and white flight would be virtually non-existent.
If it were just fair housing laws, keep class separation would be easy. Never post ads during tax return season. These single mothers usually do the rapid refund. Also, first, last, and security deposit will keep them away. Background checks and credit checks.
Why do you think these types rent houses in Maple instead of cheaper apartments in Westlake, Strongsville, Parma, and other areas? Because they can't pass the qualifications to get past the management companies. LOL
#16 Aug 17, 2014
Well, so much for looking the other way and letting the looters take what they want from the stores for free in Ferguson. The crowds are back to throwing Molotov Cocktails at the police and the police are throwing tear gas back at them. It says at least one child was hit by tear gas. Now that will give those wild animals down there another reason to protest! Hitting a child with tear gas. How inhumane! Hey wait a minute! Now why would a child be in the middle of a riot? Now, should we blame the cops for that one or should we blame the mother of that kid since his daddy probably vamoosed as soon as he heard the phrase, Jamal....ah be pregsnandt! Call an ambalance! Geez.
#17 Aug 17, 2014
Maybe if the police have their hands tied by politics where they're not allowed to shoot a criminal, perhaps 'We The People' should lend a hand. There has to be more good people than slug thugglets out there so why not start digging holes and burying the thugglets in them? And whatever relatives complain about it too. Personally, I'm getting tired of seeing all this crime shlt on the news and in the paper. The ones doing all this crime crap are the low lifes that can't find any decent work because they won't get hired because of the way they talk, you can't understand them. The way they dress with the pants 1/2 way down their a$$holes and the smug looks on their faces. Those idiots want a better life? Then get off the drugs and clean yourselves up and learn how to speak English. You're not going to better your lives by trying to break into houses all your lives because one day you'll get a bullet in the face. >8-(
#18 Aug 18, 2014
It's going to get worse down there. That autopsy report is so far inconclusive and can support either side. His arms could have been raised or could have been down by his side as he 'rushed' the officer.
Looks like the cop might be out of luck even though Brown is a criminal. It's the distance that's going to do him in. No gun powder residue found on the kid(even though clothes haven't been examined yet, he was supposedly had his hands near the gun when it first went off).
#19 Aug 18, 2014
So much for the peaceful marches that Martian Luther King stood for. I bet he's flipping around in his grave because of all this crap in Ferguson. And Jessie Jackson used to march with King? Hard to believe. Seems like Jackson took a different path than King was walking.
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