Traffic camera question headed for Ga...

Traffic camera question headed for Garfield Heights voters: Road Rant

There are 6 comments on the West Side Sun story from Aug 3, 2010, titled Traffic camera question headed for Garfield Heights voters: Road Rant. In it, West Side Sun reports that:

From left, Kathy Wagner; her neice Candice Piskac, 5, and April Wagner , all of Garfield Heights, hold signs in protest of red light cameras.

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Joe Twardzik

Cleveland, OH

#1 Aug 4, 2010
Mayor Collova,
I am writing in regards to the so called “speeding camera” that your city utilizes. I was dismayed that the city that I grew up in and my parents still call home would resort to such obvious means of revenue generating as a traffic camera. I was appalled to find that I was ticketed by this blatant violation of our rights for apparently doing a reasonable 36 MPH on a four lane state route reduced quickly to 25 MPH! The mere fact that a four lane state route has a posted speed limit of a little more than a school zone screams of entrapment and revenue generation, not public safety.
Let me be clear that I am an ardent supporter of our police forces and have several friends that currently wear the uniform, but it is the politicians that made these laws and short sighted means of revenue generation that I find disturbing. While it is my understanding that this was not enacted under your watch, but by your predecessor Tom Longo, it is your responsibility now to rescind this practice. It is not a proper use of the valuable resource that is our police force.
While watching the online video of my "crime", I witnessed myself going slowly with traffic, even touching my brake lights. If that’s what you call speeding in your city I would just as soon stay out of your town. Furthermore, if I was “speeding” at 36 MPH on a four lane state route, than I have the right to be stopped by that officer, have the offense explained to me and have an opportunity to explain my version and if in violation have a ticket written. That way I can face my accuser.
As your system is now, I am not allowed to face my accuser at the time of any alleged incident, but rather I get the “big brother” camera eye videoing my vehicle doing a reasonable speed and a ticket in the mail. You may be asking why, if I want to face my accuser, don’t I post the extra $50 bond and have my day in court? Mostly because that would end up being another $50 donation to your city on top of the $100 fine [that I have to send to Arizona. This is how local jobs are created?]
As I mentioned, I grew up in Garfield Hts and bought my first house there, still conduct business within the city limits whenever I can and have always loved the town. But after this incident I will no longer conduct business in Garfield Hts and will encourage others to join me and take their business elsewhere. The short term revenue generating will have a long term negative effect on the businesses in this fine community. I wish to see Garfield Hts succeed and move forward, not regress and decay.
Sincerely
Joseph M. Twardzik
Hudson, OH
What

Cleveland, OH

#2 Aug 5, 2010
Joe Twardzik wrote:
Mayor Collova,
I am writing in regards to the so called “speeding camera” that your city utilizes. I was dismayed that the city that I grew up in and my parents still call home would resort to such obvious means of revenue generating as a traffic camera. I was appalled to find that I was ticketed by this blatant violation of our rights for apparently doing a reasonable 36 MPH on a four lane state route reduced quickly to 25 MPH! The mere fact that a four lane state route has a posted speed limit of a little more than a school zone screams of entrapment and revenue generation, not public safety.
Let me be clear that I am an ardent supporter of our police forces and have several friends that currently wear the uniform, but it is the politicians that made these laws and short sighted means of revenue generation that I find disturbing. While it is my understanding that this was not enacted under your watch, but by your predecessor Tom Longo, it is your responsibility now to rescind this practice. It is not a proper use of the valuable resource that is our police force.
While watching the online video of my "crime", I witnessed myself going slowly with traffic, even touching my brake lights. If that’s what you call speeding in your city I would just as soon stay out of your town. Furthermore, if I was “speeding” at 36 MPH on a four lane state route, than I have the right to be stopped by that officer, have the offense explained to me and have an opportunity to explain my version and if in violation have a ticket written. That way I can face my accuser.
As your system is now, I am not allowed to face my accuser at the time of any alleged incident, but rather I get the “big brother” camera eye videoing my vehicle doing a reasonable speed and a ticket in the mail. You may be asking why, if I want to face my accuser, don’t I post the extra $50 bond and have my day in court? Mostly because that would end up being another $50 donation to your city on top of the $100 fine [that I have to send to Arizona. This is how local jobs are created?]
As I mentioned, I grew up in Garfield Hts and bought my first house there, still conduct business within the city limits whenever I can and have always loved the town. But after this incident I will no longer conduct business in Garfield Hts and will encourage others to join me and take their business elsewhere. The short term revenue generating will have a long term negative effect on the businesses in this fine community. I wish to see Garfield Hts succeed and move forward, not regress and decay.
Sincerely
Joseph M. Twardzik
Hudson, OH
You say you don't live in Garfield? Then the few times you pass through you should FOLLOW THE SPEED LIMIT. The posted speed limit signs are governed by the STATE. I wish you people would get all you facts straight. SPEEDING is breaking the law. Next time you speed in a community that doesn't have cameras, ask the officer to give you a break if you were "only ten miles over the speed limit." Hey don't forget also when you are breaking the law, tell him you don't want points on your license. What happened to common sense?
WagnerIsA3TimeLo ser

Cleveland, OH

#3 Aug 5, 2010
Ok, let's just face the facts - Wagner is ticked off that he lost the mayoral race (AGAIN - for at least the third time in my life) and is trying to rile everybody up.
Whoever is behind Wagner on this is a moron. Who will you boycott and protest when you have to use Maple Heights' pool, pay higher property taxes, lose the local income tax credit currently in place (and owe more $$ to RITA), have less police (and we all know that that is not really an option in G-Town), and STILL get pulled over for going 11MPH over the posted speed limit?
If you speed, and 11MPH over the speed limit is very generous - try getting out of a ticket by Ohio State Highway Patrol for going 6MPH over - you deserve a ticket. You are an idiot if you don't think you do. If you aren't familiar with Garfield Heights or it's laws, ignorance is no excuse. Go the speed limit and you will be OK, speed and you will get a ticket.
You cannot explain your way out of a ticket, especially in Garfield Heights, and that is absolutely nothing new. Ever since the days of "Radar George" a speeding ticket has stuck in Garfield's court. If you don't know who Radar George is, then you are obviously a new resident and should just worry about trying to keep that city nice, instead of purposely trying to run it further into the ground.
And, for you, Mr. Twardzik, you flippin retard, you don't want to conduct business in Garfield Heights anymore, but you care so much about the town? F OFF you don't care about ANYBODY BUT YOUR SPEEDING SELF! IF YOU CARED, YOU WOULD CONTINUE TO CONDUCT BUSINESS THERE AND SUPPORT THE TOWN THAT YOU SO "TRULY" LOVE! So, take out your check book, write that $100 check and send it to Arizona. Garfield will get their $90 of it, and if you don't like it, DONT SPEED. Don't pay the fine, and hopefully you will sit in jail on a warrant with a bunch of mooleys - exactly what you are.
I always knew that the world is full of mental midgets, but this is completely ridiculous. What kind of public school drop out does this make sense to? If you speed, you get a ticket, the city gets revenue, end of discussion. If it's a camera or a person that catches you speeding, the only difference is that we must also pay for that human being to sit there in a police cruiser, get paid overtime (because so many have already been laid off because of lack of funds)to accomplish the same thing. Mr. Twardzik, you should just be happy that you don't have 2 points tacked onto your driving record, and then have to pay higher insurance premiums. I never see anybody boycotting Progressive Insurance, and they are ripping everyone off much more than the City of Garfield Heights.
Mr. Twardzik, I will be sure never to hire you for anything, because I do not do business with retards.
I hope that helps your personal economy and I would suggest to all that read this to not hire Mr. Twardzik -
Territory Manager at Wolf Creek Company (22 years, 11 months), Graduate of Garfield Heights High School, and specialist in irrigation design. See, what kind of idiot posts his real name online? An idiot that thinks he shouldn't get a ticket for speeding 11MPH over the limit. By the way, that switch from 35MPH to 25MPH has existed since you grew up in Garfield Heights, you loser.
What

Cleveland, OH

#4 Aug 5, 2010
WagnerIsA3TimeLoser wrote:
Ok, let's just face the facts - Wagner is ticked off that he lost the mayoral race (AGAIN - for at least the third time in my life) and is trying to rile everybody up.
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You are absolutely right. Mr Frank "Loser" Wagner riles everyone up, yet when you ask him what his solution is? He shuts his mouth and says nothing. I firmly believe that is the only time he really doesn't have his mouth running. What tactic is he going to use when the loss of the cameras revenue will mean less police and fire or as was mentioned at a previous council meeting VOLUNTEER POLICE & FIRE, no senior services, no rec department, reduction in service department services which they will realize when it snows. What is wrong that people do not understand that you have a choice. You don't want a ticket? Don't speed. These morons are breaking the law (one who collected 3 tickets in two weeks came to the council meeting claiming she doesn't have money to pay them and wants a payment schedule. She complained about NOT BEING NOTIFIED that these cameras were going up...what rock does she live under? She also DEMANDS to know where the warning signs are..the Mayor instructed her to travel on a state route (Granger) into the City and she would see one of them. He asked asked her repeatedly what speed did she think people should be allowed to go before getting a ticket? She of course avoided the issue all four times the mayor asked her...maybe she is related to Wagner? He never answers the question either. During her complaints she NEVER once mentioned uh yeah I was speeding and breaking the law and duh I got caught).
F GH and What

Macedonia, OH

#5 Dec 25, 2010
Four lane State Route !
What don't "what" understand ?
25 MPH in a business district, Plain and simple, Speed Trap !
What, Is an idiot, ignorance is no excuse.
If safety is the issue, Quit reaching into peoples pockets !!
PS: Posting a Mr. Twardzik's data should be looked into.
mapleman

Bedford, OH

#6 Dec 26, 2010
Cameras are going, going gone in northeast Ohio. More measures will be put on the ballot and people will vote cameras out.

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