Police Blotter: Jehovah's Witnesses Told They are Indeed Solicitors

Oct 1, 2011 Full story: Patch.com 743

A Parker Drive woman called police at 10:19 a.m. Sept. 22 that Jehovah's Witnesses would not honor her "no soliciting" sign.

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dee lightful

Wilmington, NC

#685 Dec 17, 2013
kjw51 wrote:
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A god(small g) means-- has godlike qualities--how--acts 2:22---Gods power goes through Jesus--yes he is a servant of his God and Father.
Jesus is not a small" g" god. Even the NWT at iSA 9:6 says Jesus is a Mighty God. That would put he above other gods with a small "g" like man or angels. So then what does God with a capital G mean to you? Could it be he has the same qualities as God the Father.? He is possibly equal since he is also a God like his Father?
Think about it.
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#686 Dec 17, 2013
I always saw GOD spelled with all capital letters.

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#687 Dec 17, 2013
dee lightful wrote:
<quoted text> Jesus is not a small" g" god. Even the NWT at iSA 9:6 says Jesus is a Mighty God. That would put he above other gods with a small "g" like man or angels. So then what does God with a capital G mean to you? Could it be he has the same qualities as God the Father.? He is possibly equal since he is also a God like his Father?
Think about it.
If he were equal to his Father, then he would not have prayed to his Father.
He would not have asked his Father for help.
dee lightful

Wilmington, NC

#688 Dec 17, 2013
florida native wrote:
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If he were equal to his Father, then he would not have prayed to his Father.
He would not have asked his Father for help.
Jesus as a human was not equal to his Father but now he is again the WORD who has all glory returned to him. He is a a Mighty God as stated in scripture. Why can't JW get it straight that Jesus is no longer a human man for he has a glorified body that no human has.
I see no scripture where Jesus now prays to the Father when he is sitting next to him on the throne. Do you?
Jesus, as a man prayed to his Father to show us the way to pray and ask for help. As the Son he personally had no need for help for he had that from before time as the WORD.

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#689 Dec 17, 2013
dee lightful wrote:
<quoted text> As the Son he personally had no need for help for he had that from before time as the WORD.
According to John 5:19 and John 5:30, you are incorrect.

Not MY opinion but, the BIBLE's opinion.

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#690 Dec 17, 2013
florida native wrote:
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If he were equal to his Father, then he would not have prayed to his Father.
He would not have asked his Father for help.
Interestingly the WT teaches that Jesus is King ruling now in the heavens, and all knee should bend, yet I see nothing of that at all, strange lot you are, really if all authority has been given to Christ where is the actual awknowlegement, everything is Jehovah, the WT and the GB, Jehovah has become synomius with the WT, the GB with the flock, and Christ is just I have no idea he is mentioned in the closing prayer, through Jesus amen, in fact most prayers that Jehovah for the FDS.
dee lightful

Wilmington, NC

#691 Dec 17, 2013
florida native wrote:
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According to John 5:19 and John 5:30, you are incorrect.
Not MY opinion but, the BIBLE's opinion.
He does the will of his Father so how does that help him?He is teaching you the will of the Father. He is a Mighty God, the Son of the Almighty so just what kind of help could he possibly need?

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#692 Dec 17, 2013
dee lightful wrote:
<quoted text> He does the will of his Father so how does that help him?He is teaching you the will of the Father. He is a Mighty God, the Son of the Almighty so just what kind of help could he possibly need?
I dunno but, John 5:19 read like this:

Therefore Jesus answered and was saying to them,“Truly, truly, I say to you, the Son can do nothing of Himself, unless it is something He sees the Father doing; for whatever [a]the Father does, these things the Son also does in like manner.

It looks like he is saying that he cannot do anything for himself.
We can also bring up the last night of his life.
In the garden, why was he praying?
Was he praying for others?
No, he was praying to have the strength to keep doing the will of his Father?
Praying for strength?
God needed to pray for strength?
And THEN what happened?
According to the gospel of Luke, an angel actually came down to give him strength?
WHAT!!!!
An angel had to strengthen God?
He did need help to remain faithful to the very end.
dee lightful

Wilmington, NC

#693 Dec 17, 2013
florida native wrote:
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I dunno but, John 5:19 read like this:
Therefore Jesus answered and was saying to them,“Truly, truly, I say to you, the Son can do nothing of Himself, unless it is something He sees the Father doing; for whatever [a]the Father does, these things the Son also does in like manner.
It looks like he is saying that he cannot do anything for himself.
We can also bring up the last night of his life.
In the garden, why was he praying?
Was he praying for others?
No, he was praying to have the strength to keep doing the will of his Father?
Praying for strength?
God needed to pray for strength?
And THEN what happened?
According to the gospel of Luke, an angel actually came down to give him strength?
WHAT!!!!
An angel had to strengthen God?
He did need help to remain faithful to the very end.
Yes, men need to remain faithful to God the Father and that is the way it is taught in scriptures by example but the person with all authority does not need help from anyone for he is a Mighty God.
You continue to confuse the man Jesus with the Jesus who is the Mighty God with the authority to sit on the Throne in heaven.

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#694 Dec 17, 2013
dee lightful wrote:
<quoted text> Yes, men need to remain faithful to God the Father and that is the way it is taught in scriptures by example but the person with all authority does not need help from anyone for he is a Mighty God.
You continue to confuse the man Jesus with the Jesus who is the Mighty God with the authority to sit on the Throne in heaven.
OK, dee, which Jesus died? The one who is "Mighty God," or the man Jesus? Would you make it sound like Jesus was godintheflesh on earth and so when he was killed he left his flesh while he continued living somewhere else, then came back to get his flesh back to life again? You agree that Jesus was GIVEN all authority in heaven and on earth. But we know he did not have authority over his Father, God. His God. Jesus had been GIVEN all authority after he had proved successful on the earth. He was then given a GREATER name than he had before he had come to the earth.

Speaking of Jesus, Hebrews 1:4 explain, "So he became as much superior to the angels as the name he has inherited is superior to theirs." See the words there? He BECAME as much superior to the angels as the name he has INHERITED is superior to theirs. He BECAME, and he INHERITED a name greater than -- the angels.

Now keep cool, dee.
dee lightful

Wilmington, NC

#695 Dec 18, 2013
Schleptik wrote:
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OK, dee, which Jesus died? The one who is "Mighty God," or the man Jesus? Would you make it sound like Jesus was godintheflesh on earth and so when he was killed he left his flesh while he continued living somewhere else, then came back to get his flesh back to life again? You agree that Jesus was GIVEN all authority in heaven and on earth. But we know he did not have authority over his Father, God. His God. Jesus had been GIVEN all authority after he had proved successful on the earth. He was then given a GREATER name than he had before he had come to the earth.
Speaking of Jesus, Hebrews 1:4 explain, "So he became as much superior to the angels as the name he has inherited is superior to theirs." See the words there? He BECAME as much superior to the angels as the name he has INHERITED is superior to theirs. He BECAME, and he INHERITED a name greater than -- the angels.
Now keep cool, dee.
There is only one Jesus and he had a bodily death and three days later he had a bodily resurrection to prove he conquered death the same way faithful mankind will.
Your ignorance is something all LURKERS and BIBLE STUDIES should see what happens when you join a cult of men like the WTS.

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#696 Dec 18, 2013
dee lightful wrote:
<quoted text> Yes, men need to remain faithful to God the Father and that is the way it is taught in scriptures by example but the person with all authority does not need help from anyone for he is a Mighty God.
You continue to confuse the man Jesus with the Jesus who is the Mighty God with the authority to sit on the Throne in heaven.
Hopefully you can understand my confusion.
Are you suggesting that Jesus was here on Earth AND in Heaven at the same exact moment?
dee lightful

Wilmington, NC

#698 Dec 18, 2013
florida native wrote:
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Hopefully you can understand my confusion.
Are you suggesting that Jesus was here on Earth AND in Heaven at the same exact moment?
No I never even suggested such a thing.
Your confusion comes from the double talk of the WTS. If you stuck with scriptures alone all things would be clear.

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#699 Dec 18, 2013
dee lightful wrote:
<quoted text> No I never even suggested such a thing.
Your confusion comes from the double talk of the WTS. If you stuck with scriptures alone all things would be clear.
Well Dee,
I have the same scriptures you do.
Can we agree that Jesus was in fact flesh and bone and, while he was flesh and bone, he spoke to God?
dee lightful

Wilmington, NC

#700 Dec 18, 2013
florida native wrote:
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Well Dee,
I have the same scriptures you do.
Can we agree that Jesus was in fact flesh and bone and, while he was flesh and bone, he spoke to God?
Isn't what I have been saying all along. I am glad to see a jw can admit that for so many deny that. Don't forget Jesus also said he was NOT a spirit.

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#701 Dec 18, 2013
dee lightful wrote:
<quoted text> Isn't what I have been saying all along. I am glad to see a jw can admit that for so many deny that. Don't forget Jesus also said he was NOT a spirit.
Jesus also said that God IS a spirit. John 4:24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.

Jesus didn't lie. He said God is a spirit. He also say, according to your understanding of how Jesus used the word spirit, that he, Jesus, was NOT a spirit.
God is a spirit.
Jesus is not a spirit.
:-)

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#702 Dec 18, 2013
dee, Jesus didn't lie. He said God is a spirit. John 4:24. He also said he, Jesus, was NOT a spirit.

Jesus said God is a spirit.
Jesus said he is not a spirit.
:-)

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#703 Dec 19, 2013
dee lightful wrote:
<quoted text> Isn't what I have been saying all along. I am glad to see a jw can admit that for so many deny that. Don't forget Jesus also said he was NOT a spirit.
OK.. that goes back to my original question.
You say that Jesus IS God but, then you said that Jesus SPOKE to God.
So, how can that be?
And lets not forget, God also spoke to Jesus and called him "my Son"
dee lightful

Wilmington, NC

#704 Dec 19, 2013
florida native wrote:
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OK.. that goes back to my original question.
You say that Jesus IS God but, then you said that Jesus SPOKE to God.
So, how can that be?
And lets not forget, God also spoke to Jesus and called him "my Son"
LOL the same nonsense again. The bible tells you that Jesus is a Mighty God but that doesn't mean he is his Father. Why do JW's keep repeating that lie ?

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#705 Dec 19, 2013
dee lightful wrote:
<quoted text> LOL the same nonsense again. The bible tells you that Jesus is a Mighty God but that doesn't mean he is his Father. Why do JW's keep repeating that lie ?
Because YOU are not EXPLAINING it in a way that can be understood.

Again, maybe I am confised.
Lets start back with the basics:
According to your belief, Is Jesus actually God?

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