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Police Blotter: Jehovah's Witnesses Told They are Indeed Solicitors

There are 743 comments on the Patch.com story from Oct 1, 2011, titled Police Blotter: Jehovah's Witnesses Told They are Indeed Solicitors. In it, Patch.com reports that:

A Parker Drive woman called police at 10:19 a.m. Sept. 22 that Jehovah's Witnesses would not honor her "no soliciting" sign.

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Since: Nov 11

Saint Peters, MO

#461 Oct 12, 2013
kjw51 wrote:
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There isn't a cult on earth that teaches Jesus' truths--The JW religion is the only one I have ever seen that actually teaches Jesus; truths--why is that? Because in reality its all the rest of the false Christian religions that are the true cults. Being taught by blind guides that do not know God or his son, but are great at tickling ears with lies like--you are saved or born again. Its you who are fooling yourself.
John 3:3... In answer Jesus said to him: "most truly I say to you, Unless anyone is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God." (KIT)

To be born again literally means for your sinful nature to die and one is born again the in the spirit of God through Christ Jesus and the HS.
To be born again means to be born of God..
1 John 3:9 5:4, 5:18 "We know that any one who is born of God does not continue to sin; the who was born of God (Christ) keeps him safe, and the evil one cannot harm him.

To be born again is to be like Christ which is literally what the word Christian means. To be Christ like through accepting Christ as you savior.

Being Saved: Joel 2:32
Acts 15:11
Ro 10:13
1 Co 10:33

All of these scripture are in present tense meaning they are telling us that we ARE currently saved when we believe and accept Christ..
There are so many more which tell us we will be saved WHEN we make the choice...

ARe you allowed to read your bible on your own or just the magazines and other little books without the aid of your bible which clearly states that we are 'born again' or born of the spirit of God and that we ARE saved when we first believe and put our faith in our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.
To be saved or to gain salvation means to be saved from sin..
JW's believe are only saved from when we die...if we're deemed righteous upon death... It doesn't work like that. If you have truly given your heart to Christ thus God, you are born again, when you are born again, give up sin and live righteously for Christ and God, By living for them, you are accepting Christ as your savior, you are saved from a life of sin.. It's one big concept just uses different words.. Born again and being saved is the same thing. We die in our sin, are born in the spirit of God and saved from sin and eternal suffering.
Read your bible!

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#462 Oct 12, 2013
beckyss wrote:
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John 3:3... In answer Jesus said to him: "most truly I say to you, Unless anyone is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God." (KIT)
To be born again literally means for your sinful nature to die and one is born again the in the spirit of God through Christ Jesus and the HS.
To be born again means to be born of God..
1 John 3:9 5:4, 5:18 "We know that any one who is born of God does not continue to sin; the who was born of God (Christ) keeps him safe, and the evil one cannot harm him.
To be born again is to be like Christ which is literally what the word Christian means. To be Christ like through accepting Christ as you savior.
Being Saved: Joel 2:32
Acts 15:11
Ro 10:13
1 Co 10:33
All of these scripture are in present tense meaning they are telling us that we ARE currently saved when we believe and accept Christ..
There are so many more which tell us we will be saved WHEN we make the choice...
ARe you allowed to read your bible on your own or just the magazines and other little books without the aid of your bible which clearly states that we are 'born again' or born of the spirit of God and that we ARE saved when we first believe and put our faith in our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.
To be saved or to gain salvation means to be saved from sin..
JW's believe are only saved from when we die...if we're deemed righteous upon death... It doesn't work like that. If you have truly given your heart to Christ thus God, you are born again, when you are born again, give up sin and live righteously for Christ and God, By living for them, you are accepting Christ as your savior, you are saved from a life of sin.. It's one big concept just uses different words.. Born again and being saved is the same thing. We die in our sin, are born in the spirit of God and saved from sin and eternal suffering.
Read your bible!
I never said one couldn't be in a saved position( persay) now. But Gods word teaches one must endure till the end to get saved.
Also there isn't a single mortal on this earth that can read anothers heart to truly see if they are born again or saved--nor has one mortal ever seen ones name written in the book of life--thus there isn't a mortal on this earth that has the right to tell another--you are saved--or born again. only teachers that do not know God or his son tell others those two things. 2 Corinthians 11: 12-15 is the boat they ride in. God warned all--GET OUT OF HER.

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#463 Oct 12, 2013
beckyss wrote:
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John 3:3... In answer Jesus said to him: "most truly I say to you, Unless anyone is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God." (KIT)
To be born again literally means for your sinful nature to die and one is born again the in the spirit of God through Christ Jesus and the HS.
To be born again means to be born of God..
1 John 3:9 5:4, 5:18 "We know that any one who is born of God does not continue to sin; the who was born of God (Christ) keeps him safe, and the evil one cannot harm him.
To be born again is to be like Christ which is literally what the word Christian means. To be Christ like through accepting Christ as you savior.
Being Saved: Joel 2:32
Acts 15:11
Ro 10:13
1 Co 10:33
All of these scripture are in present tense meaning they are telling us that we ARE currently saved when we believe and accept Christ..
There are so many more which tell us we will be saved WHEN we make the choice...
ARe you allowed to read your bible on your own or just the magazines and other little books without the aid of your bible which clearly states that we are 'born again' or born of the spirit of God and that we ARE saved when we first believe and put our faith in our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.
To be saved or to gain salvation means to be saved from sin..
JW's believe are only saved from when we die...if we're deemed righteous upon death... It doesn't work like that. If you have truly given your heart to Christ thus God, you are born again, when you are born again, give up sin and live righteously for Christ and God, By living for them, you are accepting Christ as your savior, you are saved from a life of sin.. It's one big concept just uses different words.. Born again and being saved is the same thing. We die in our sin, are born in the spirit of God and saved from sin and eternal suffering.
Read your bible!
Seems to me its you who need to relook. Here is the true God, taught by his word---Deuteronomy 32:4--All of Gods ways are justice--this means in every decision God applies justice--He taught us all what that justice is--An eye for an eye--perfect justice--a balanced set of scales--lets apply this to eternal suffering teaching.

On one side of the scales--70-90 years of unrepented sin---- on the other side of the scales--trillions x trillions x trillions etc, of never ending years of punishment---

see any balance on that set of scales--NO-- Not Gods scales.

Thus a sadistic lie about the true God by teachers of darkness--they do not even know God or his son.--God warned all--GET OUT OF HER.

Since: Nov 11

Saint Peters, MO

#464 Oct 14, 2013
kjw51 wrote:
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I never said one couldn't be in a saved position( persay) now. But Gods word teaches one must endure till the end to get saved.
Also there isn't a single mortal on this earth that can read anothers heart to truly see if they are born again or saved--nor has one mortal ever seen ones name written in the book of life--thus there isn't a mortal on this earth that has the right to tell another--you are saved--or born again. only teachers that do not know God or his son tell others those two things. 2 Corinthians 11: 12-15 is the boat they ride in. God warned all--GET OUT OF HER.
You are correct kjw51, no human can read anothers heart, but only God reads the heart of man to determine if a person has truly died in there flesh and been born again in the spirit.

ACTS 1:24
MT 5:8
Acts 4:32
Acts 8:21
Ro 10:10
Luke 16:15
JOhn 5:42

And many many many more which state how God knows the heart and how we are to have Christ in our hearts which means to have the Love of God himself in our hearts.

So now how do you justify Luke 7:50.. The sinful woman who anointed and washed the feet of Jesus.
" Do you se this woman? I came into your house,. You did not give me any water for my feet, but she wet her feet with her tears and wiped them with her hair. You did not give me a kiss, but this woman, from the time I entered, has not stopped kissing my feet. You did not put oil on my head; but she has poured perfume on my feet. Therefore, I tell you, her many sins have been forgiven for she loved much. But he who has been forgiven little loves little. Then Jesus said to her. "Your sins are forgiven. The other guests began to say among themselves, "Who is this one even forgives sins?" Jesus said to the woman, "YOUR FAITH HAS SAVED YOU; Go in peace.

Jesus clearly shows that when we love HIm in our heart and show our love for him, that we ARE forgiven when our heart is changed by our true love for HIM. Jesus did not say
"you will be saved when it is time for the resurrection and only based on your works.
He clearly stated that she was saved/receive Salvation from her sinful nature right then and right there in present tense.

When we change our heart after accepting Christ as our Savior and give our life to Him and live in his righteousness and all we do for is for HIM and in His name, we are forgiven and receive the gift of Salvation which we feel and know in our heart when it is changed. God lets us know when we have been forgiven and received Salvation.
When I first accepted Christ in my heart, it wasn't immediate that I felt forgiven or saved even though the bible teaches that we are when we first believe... It was when I started living for Him and developing my relationship with Christ that I truly felt it. I knew that I was forgiven and saved from my flesh and a sinful life. No, I am not perfect (none of us are) and continue to work daily on my fleshly and sinful attitude.. but as long as I go to Jesus daily and ask Him to help me be like him every day, then I continue in my walk with Christ.
As Christians, not everything we do or say is pleasing to God but as long as we continue to ask the HS for guidance and truly mean it and try in our heart to please God, then God knows our heart and we continue to live in the state of God's grace and Salvation.

Forgiveness and Salvation is given through God's grace not because of anything we do, but merely because God loves us and we show love for him by asking forgiveness when we sin and by putting our Faith in Christ. That's all it takes.

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#465 Oct 15, 2013
beckyss wrote:
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You are correct kjw51, no human can read anothers heart, but only God reads the heart of man to determine if a person has truly died in there flesh and been born again in the spirit.
ACTS 1:24
MT 5:8
Acts 4:32
Acts 8:21
Ro 10:10
Luke 16:15
JOhn 5:42
And many many many more which state how God knows the heart and how we are to have Christ in our hearts which means to have the Love of God himself in our hearts.
So now how do you justify Luke 7:50.. The sinful woman who anointed and washed the feet of Jesus.
" Do you se this woman? I came into your house,. You did not give me any water for my feet, but she wet her feet with her tears and wiped them with her hair. You did not give me a kiss, but this woman, from the time I entered, has not stopped kissing my feet. You did not put oil on my head; but she has poured perfume on my feet. Therefore, I tell you, her many sins have been forgiven for she loved much. But he who has been forgiven little loves little. Then Jesus said to her. "Your sins are forgiven. The other guests began to say among themselves, "Who is this one even forgives sins?" Jesus said to the woman, "YOUR FAITH HAS SAVED YOU; Go in peace.
Jesus clearly shows that when we love HIm in our heart and show our love for him, that we ARE forgiven when our heart is changed by our true love for HIM. Jesus did not say
"you will be saved when it is time for the resurrection and only based on your works.
He clearly stated that she was saved/receive Salvation from her sinful nature right then and right there in present tense.
When we change our heart after accepting Christ as our Savior and give our life to Him and live in his righteousness and all we do for is for HIM and in His name, we are forgiven and receive the gift of Salvation which we feel and know in our heart when it is changed. God lets us know when we have been forgiven and received Salvation.
When I first accepted Christ in my heart, it wasn't immediate that I felt forgiven or saved even though the bible teaches that we are when we first believe... It was when I started living for Him and developing my relationship with Christ that I truly felt it. I knew that I was forgiven and saved from my flesh and a sinful life. No, I am not perfect (none of us are) and continue to work daily on my fleshly and sinful attitude.. but as long as I go to Jesus daily and ask Him to help me be like him every day, then I continue in my walk with Christ.
As Christians, not everything we do or say is pleasing to God but as long as we continue to ask the HS for guidance and truly mean it and try in our heart to please God, then God knows our heart and we continue to live in the state of God's grace and Salvation.
Forgiveness and Salvation is given through God's grace not because of anything we do, but merely because God loves us and we show love for him by asking forgiveness when we sin and by putting our Faith in Christ. That's all it takes.
According to Jesus--there are requirements on the humans part.

Like John 17:3-- to get eternal life( be saved into Gods kingdom)-- one must know --THE ONLY TRUE GOD=Father)( one who sent Jesus=John 5:30) and know Jesus.
Also at Matt 7:21-23--Jesus showed two points that one must be doing and not doing. one also must learn, apply, share Jesus'truths. have faith, baptism, and most important--love.

Since: Jun 13

Location hidden

#466 Oct 15, 2013
Ah, love, very important aspect, guess we can assume jw's will not see eternal life, they have no love in them.

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#467 Oct 16, 2013
Matt9969 wrote:
Ah, love, very important aspect, guess we can assume jw's will not see eternal life, they have no love in them.
You couldn't judge anothers heart on your best day--- No mortal can see into anothers heart. But one will be judged with their own usage of judgement.

Since: Feb 07

RI

#468 Oct 16, 2013
kjw51 wrote:
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You couldn't judge anothers heart on your best day--- No mortal can see into anothers heart. But one will be judged with their own usage of judgement.
And yet, YOU judge others constantly. What a conundrum!

Since: Nov 11

Saint Peters, MO

#469 Oct 16, 2013
kjw51 wrote:
<quoted text>
According to Jesus--there are requirements on the humans part.
Like John 17:3-- to get eternal life( be saved into Gods kingdom)-- one must know --THE ONLY TRUE GOD=Father)( one who sent Jesus=John 5:30) and know Jesus.
Also at Matt 7:21-23--Jesus showed two points that one must be doing and not doing. one also must learn, apply, share Jesus'truths. have faith, baptism, and most important--love.
You are correct, there are things we must do in order to live righteously ALL for the Glory of God. IF a person has the true heart of God, he or she will not be doing things which are against the will of God. If a person knows God, not just his teachings but knows and feels Him in their heart through accepting Christ, they will know God's words and have a willing heart to do the will of God and share His truth's have faith and be baptized. Without Christ in your heart, thus God is in your heart, you will do all these things with the love and heart of God. It's all about what's in the heart. And God reads the heart of God. There are ministers out there who preach and teach and baptize etc... yet they get caught embezelling, adulterating, etc... They are doing all the right things in front of the people, but God sees the heart and the actions and thoughts of people behind closed doors in the deepest most private places of their hearts.
The only way to the Father is through the Son and the Son MUST be in the heart to know the father. No membership in Any church or organization necessary.
Blessings to you!

Since: Nov 11

Saint Peters, MO

#470 Oct 16, 2013
kjw51 wrote:
<quoted text>
Seems to me its you who need to relook. Here is the true God, taught by his word---Deuteronomy 32:4--All of Gods ways are justice--this means in every decision God applies justice--He taught us all what that justice is--An eye for an eye--perfect justice--a balanced set of scales--lets apply this to eternal suffering teaching.
On one side of the scales--70-90 years of unrepented sin---- on the other side of the scales--trillions x trillions x trillions etc, of never ending years of punishment---
see any balance on that set of scales--NO-- Not Gods scales.
Thus a sadistic lie about the true God by teachers of darkness--they do not even know God or his son.--God warned all--GET OUT OF HER.
Jesus is the new covenant. Luke 20:20 The old one is gone. God's scales of Justice have changed. We are no longer to make it even and give and eye for an eye. We are now to 'turn the other cheek and let our enemy slap us on it to. Mt 5:39 and Lk 6:29 Do you not read the bible? We are to suffer for Christ as he suffered for us. God created Justice on the Cross. Justice has been served on the Cross, now all we need to do is believe and accept the sacrifice through Christ Jesus which was freely done for us. Do you accept God's justice? Christ paid the sentence for us. It is given freely through our faith in Christ and Christ alone.

God's final justice will be when we all stand before him. Those who were saved in life, will be saved in God's kingdom in Heaven. Those who refused God, WILL receive eternal damnation. Rev 20:11-14
Then I saw a great white throne and him who was seated on it. Earth and sky fled from his presence, and there was no place for them. And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and the books were opened. Another book was opened, which is the book of life. The dead were judged according to what they had done as recorded in the books. The sea gave up the dead that were in it, and death and Hades gave up the dead that were in them and each person was judged according to what he had done. Then death and Hades were throne into the lake of fire. The lake of fire is the second death. If anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, HE WAS THROWN INTO THE LAKE OF FIRE. Compare with Rev 20:10...Satan and the false prophet had been thrown in the lake of burning sulfur where they were tormented day and night...

Tell me, if there was not suffering involved in the second death, why do you think we were resurrected and thrown into the lake of fire where suffering takes place?

To just leave us in the grave would be to deny us the kingdom. that would be punishment enough, but God promised eternal suffering for those who denied him through denying his son.

God does not apply justice with everything we do when we do it. God's justice is handed out the day we stand before him. He allows us to create our own destiny on this earth with our decisions. This is why we have free will so we can freely decide whether we want to love God. Justice refers to punishment, we do not receive our punishment until the end.

The OT covenant was that way. Jesus the new covenant does not dole out justice right now.

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#471 Oct 17, 2013
RedhorseWoman wrote:
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And yet, YOU judge others constantly. What a conundrum!
I judge no ones heart--I share the judgements found within Gods written word.

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#472 Oct 17, 2013
beckyss wrote:
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Jesus is the new covenant. Luke 20:20 The old one is gone. God's scales of Justice have changed. We are no longer to make it even and give and eye for an eye. We are now to 'turn the other cheek and let our enemy slap us on it to. Mt 5:39 and Lk 6:29 Do you not read the bible? We are to suffer for Christ as he suffered for us. God created Justice on the Cross. Justice has been served on the Cross, now all we need to do is believe and accept the sacrifice through Christ Jesus which was freely done for us. Do you accept God's justice? Christ paid the sentence for us. It is given freely through our faith in Christ and Christ alone.
God's final justice will be when we all stand before him. Those who were saved in life, will be saved in God's kingdom in Heaven. Those who refused God, WILL receive eternal damnation. Rev 20:11-14
Then I saw a great white throne and him who was seated on it. Earth and sky fled from his presence, and there was no place for them. And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and the books were opened. Another book was opened, which is the book of life. The dead were judged according to what they had done as recorded in the books. The sea gave up the dead that were in it, and death and Hades gave up the dead that were in them and each person was judged according to what he had done. Then death and Hades were throne into the lake of fire. The lake of fire is the second death. If anyone's name was not found written in the book of life, HE WAS THROWN INTO THE LAKE OF FIRE. Compare with Rev 20:10...Satan and the false prophet had been thrown in the lake of burning sulfur where they were tormented day and night...
Tell me, if there was not suffering involved in the second death, why do you think we were resurrected and thrown into the lake of fire where suffering takes place?
To just leave us in the grave would be to deny us the kingdom. that would be punishment enough, but God promised eternal suffering for those who denied him through denying his son.
God does not apply justice with everything we do when we do it. God's justice is handed out the day we stand before him. He allows us to create our own destiny on this earth with our decisions. This is why we have free will so we can freely decide whether we want to love God. Justice refers to punishment, we do not receive our punishment until the end.
The OT covenant was that way. Jesus the new covenant does not dole out justice right now.
God 4 main attributes--LOVE, WISDOM, POWER, JUSTICE---never changing. There is much symbolism in revelation.

Since: Mar 09

Location hidden

#473 Oct 17, 2013
beckyss wrote:
<quoted text>
You are correct, there are things we must do in order to live righteously ALL for the Glory of God. IF a person has the true heart of God, he or she will not be doing things which are against the will of God. If a person knows God, not just his teachings but knows and feels Him in their heart through accepting Christ, they will know God's words and have a willing heart to do the will of God and share His truth's have faith and be baptized. Without Christ in your heart, thus God is in your heart, you will do all these things with the love and heart of God. It's all about what's in the heart. And God reads the heart of God. There are ministers out there who preach and teach and baptize etc... yet they get caught embezelling, adulterating, etc... They are doing all the right things in front of the people, but God sees the heart and the actions and thoughts of people behind closed doors in the deepest most private places of their hearts.
The only way to the Father is through the Son and the Son MUST be in the heart to know the father. No membership in Any church or organization necessary.
Blessings to you!
You shared some nice things but-- The Father is looking for such like ones to worship him in spirit and truth---- truth--one cannot possibly know truths without being taught by Jesus' true teachers. They have tried all through the last 1800 years or so and now 33,000 different religionssssssssssssssssss claiming to be Christian--a mass of confusion. Yet 1 stands out from the rest and if one learns Jesus' truths, applys Jesus' truths its easy to see who actually is teaching Jesus' truths.

Since: Feb 07

RI

#474 Oct 17, 2013
kjw51 wrote:
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I judge no ones heart--I share the judgements found within Gods written word.
LOL You share YOUR interpretation of what is found in God's word and YOU apply it to those whom YOU think should be judged.

When you call someone "fake" or "apostate" or "led by Satan" you are most certainly judging. You know what the scriptures say about those humans who take it upon themselves to judge others, don't you? Or have you conveniently forgotten about that?
True Christian witness

Slick, OK

#475 Oct 19, 2013
beckyss wrote:
<quoted text>
John 3:3... In answer Jesus said to him: "most truly I say to you, Unless anyone is born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God." (KIT)
To be born again literally means for your sinful nature to die and one is born again the in the spirit of God through Christ Jesus and the HS.
To be born again means to be born of God..
1 John 3:9 5:4, 5:18 "We know that any one who is born of God does not continue to sin; the who was born of God (Christ) keeps him safe, and the evil one cannot harm him.
To be born again is to be like Christ which is literally what the word Christian means. To be Christ like through accepting Christ as you savior.
Being Saved: Joel 2:32
Acts 15:11
Ro 10:13
1 Co 10:33
All of these scripture are in present tense meaning they are telling us that we ARE currently saved when we believe and accept Christ..
There are so many more which tell us we will be saved WHEN we make the choice...
ARe you allowed to read your bible on your own or just the magazines and other little books without the aid of your bible which clearly states that we are 'born again' or born of the spirit of God and that we ARE saved when we first believe and put our faith in our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.
To be saved or to gain salvation means to be saved from sin..
JW's believe are only saved from when we die...if we're deemed righteous upon death... It doesn't work like that. If you have truly given your heart to Christ thus God, you are born again, when you are born again, give up sin and live righteously for Christ and God, By living for them, you are accepting Christ as your savior, you are saved from a life of sin.. It's one big concept just uses different words.. Born again and being saved is the same thing. We die in our sin, are born in the spirit of God and saved from sin and eternal suffering.
Read your bible!
This post shows that you do not know or understand the Scriptures of your Bible, and you do not know the one true God, Almighty God Jehovah the God Jesus worshiped and prayed to and obeyed, as our example to follow.
John 14:31
True Christian witness

Slick, OK

#476 Oct 19, 2013
The Judgement on this world starts with Jehovah's witnesses, therefore every ex Jehovah's witnesses has been judged already, they chose to be in Satan's word and eat at Satan's table, they have been cut off from Jehovah God and his people.

Ex Jehovah's witnesses that are being disciplined to make the necessary adjustments to their thinking and conduct that has been judged unchristian, and make their decision to remain in Satan's world of ungodly men, will also be destroyed at Armageddon.

Since: Jun 13

Location hidden

#478 Oct 20, 2013
True Christian witness wrote:
The Judgement on this world starts with Jehovah's witnesses, therefore every ex Jehovah's witnesses has been judged already, they chose to be in Satan's word and eat at Satan's table, they have been cut off from Jehovah God and his people.
Ex Jehovah's witnesses that are being disciplined to make the necessary adjustments to their thinking and conduct that has been judged unchristian, and make their decision to remain in Satan's world of ungodly men, will also be destroyed at Armageddon.
OH, me on my, I'm terrified, I'm in such agony, my life is miserable, I am sooooooo scarred for life.

Listen judge, your religions is nothing but a pyramid scheme with multi level marketing for souls. You all care nothing of others but just are looking out for your own asses. And you are arrogant patronizing narcissistic nut jobs with thinking like this. You think you are better than everyone else, more holy than everyone else, your morality is superior than every one else. I got news for arrogant pig, with your attitudes and behavior, this Jehovah god is going to kill off your religion first, and all you jw's will die, just too bad you won't be tortured for an eternity.

Since: Oct 10

Homebush, Australia

#479 Oct 20, 2013
True Christian witness wrote:
The Judgement on this world starts with Jehovah's witnesses, therefore every ex Jehovah's witnesses has been judged already, they chose to be in Satan's word and eat at Satan's table, they have been cut off from Jehovah God and his people.
Ex Jehovah's witnesses that are being disciplined to make the necessary adjustments to their thinking and conduct that has been judged unchristian, and make their decision to remain in Satan's world of ungodly men, will also be destroyed at Armageddon.
that means that WT GB and the religion has not been judged! so i think you should ask yourself why it is that the GB teaches that JW are in a spiritual paradise and that all the GB teach now is truth, yet they have not been judged, so YOur GB is yet to be judged, to bad you have to apply this to non JW that are not part of the house, picky picky picky you have to look within then don't you, you seem to look out of the org and judge them.

Since: Oct 10

Homebush, Australia

#480 Oct 20, 2013
True Christian witness wrote:
The Judgement on this world starts with Jehovah's witnesses, therefore every ex Jehovah's witnesses has been judged already, they chose to be in Satan's word and eat at Satan's table, they have been cut off from Jehovah God and his people.
Ex Jehovah's witnesses that are being disciplined to make the necessary adjustments to their thinking and conduct that has been judged unchristian, and make their decision to remain in Satan's world of ungodly men, will also be destroyed at Armageddon.
so are you saying that JW have already been judged? that is not what your WT now teaches, as they say that the GB have not yet been appointed over all of Christ belongings, so the judgement has not started with YOUR house yet. Besides the new thought on the sheep and goats in your latest WT study articles say that Christ is yet to judge the people, so your actually disagreeing with the GB new teaching, that judgement between the sheep and goats does not start until the great tribulation!!

So that means that neither the JW have been judged nor the world according to your own GB teachings.

Since: Nov 11

Saint Peters, MO

#481 Oct 20, 2013
True Christian witness wrote:
The Judgement on this world starts with Jehovah's witnesses, therefore every ex Jehovah's witnesses has been judged already, they chose to be in Satan's word and eat at Satan's table, they have been cut off from Jehovah God and his people.
Ex Jehovah's witnesses that are being disciplined to make the necessary adjustments to their thinking and conduct that has been judged unchristian, and make their decision to remain in Satan's world of ungodly men, will also be destroyed at Armageddon.
Please do not take this as a personal judgement against you... but you have been duped by a cult teaching. The words you provide show and prove that what you shared is the teaching of a cult who convinces you that their man made organization is the way to the Father. The bible clearly teaches that Jesus Christ is the Way, the truth and the life... No man nor no organization can get you there. Its in the heart. Follow Christ in your heart, not an organization on earth.
You write: "The Judgement on this world starts with Jehovah's witnesses", God is the only one who has the right to judge, not the organization. And god judges the heart. He realizes that we are human and falter in our behavior and faith... This is why he waits till the end to judge us.. If he judged us before death, then I would suspect no one would make it into Heaven in the end. We have hope unto the end when we take our last breath. Otherwise would would have to be perfect from the moment we accept Christ till the day we die. Your premise takes away the hope of finding God, even unto our last breath.

We are to judge man's behavior but not his heart. There are many scripture which which talks about how it is the HEART which will be judged.

You've shared more cult teachings at their finest.

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