Victim's father yells out at court ap...

Victim's father yells out at court appearance for Gardner teen

There are 14 comments on the Kansas City Star story from Feb 6, 2008, titled Victim's father yells out at court appearance for Gardner teen. In it, Kansas City Star reports that:

A Gardner teenager was ordered held on charges of involuntary manslaughter today at a court hearing that ended with an angry outburst from the father of the dead teen.

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Big Jim

Rochester, NY

#1 Feb 9, 2008
Anyone know Dustin Howard's parent's names? address? phone #? They shouldn't be allowed to hide behind sissy media editors. Stand up and let the people judge you, your family and your lifestyle. Let the public scorn and humiliation rain down. These people should be hounded and hectored for the rest of their lives so they never, ever forget the way their defective spawn killed another human being and ruined that family's life. Every aspect of their lives should be held up for public view, stripped of any privacy and bare before the howling, baying mob. And thats just day one. If you can't stand the heat, get out of my kitchen.

Since: Feb 08

Jacksonville Illinois

#2 Feb 15, 2008
Big Jim wrote:
Anyone know Dustin Howard's parent's names? address? phone #? They shouldn't be allowed to hide behind sissy media editors. Stand up and let the people judge you, your family and your lifestyle. Let the public scorn and humiliation rain down. These people should be hounded and hectored for the rest of their lives so they never, ever forget the way their defective spawn killed another human being and ruined that family's life. Every aspect of their lives should be held up for public view, stripped of any privacy and bare before the howling, baying mob. And thats just day one. If you can't stand the heat, get out of my kitchen.
I partially agree with you. Before we teach our children to pick up after themselves, focus on school work, etc etc....the thing we need to drive home is HOW to treat other people. Be they less athletic, clean, intelligent, attractive, wealthy, ANYTHING.....They still need to be treated with respect and decency. We need to let our children know by example that bullying or teasing or any form of cruelty is UNACCEPTABLE. period.
Concerned

Lees Summit, MO

#3 Feb 20, 2008
How would attacking the family make you any better than what has already happened? Haven't we learned anything? These kids made a very bad choice, BOTH agreed to fight, and now BOTH families are suffering. Nothing was ever brought to the mother's attention and yet she was attacked in the courtroom. It's so sad that someone had to die to realize that violence isn't the answer, and yet we continue to threaten a family that is already suffering. I in no way condone what happened, but my heart bleeds for BOTH families that have to live with what decisions their children made.
Outraged

Menomonee Falls, WI

#4 Feb 24, 2008
Some of these comments are outrageous, if you lost a sister, brother, mother, father or close friend to something as trivial as high school brawl between a 2 high school boys (That’s right boys), you would be devastated. The only fact that remains that this youth died at the hands of some sick sadistic kids while the event was captured on a cell phone camera. Everyone who witnessed this and didn’t try to intervene should be charged as an accessory to this heinous crime. Maybe if we start applying the laws that holds LIFE so dearly, maybe we teach generation next to value life instead of destroying it. Thank you Gardner City Council, entire GPSD (City Police Department), USD 231, and especially the outgoing principal for looking the other way, when you should be hold these kids tot eh highest standards. The community leader’s relaxed approach to dealing with high school problems must change 180 degrees. Our warnings have fallen on deaf ears for over 16 months and this is what will continue to happen until they consistently enforce the laws. No more passing the buck from the School to Police, Police to City Council, City Council, to School. Stand up; swallow the lump in your throat and kick there A$$ES out of school if they get caught breaking the rules (emphasis added). For the family, we grieve for your loss and hope that the memory of your son will live forever in a place that is held up on high. God Bless you and stay strong, there is hope and salvation for those that walk in the light.
Outraged

Menomonee Falls, WI

#5 Feb 24, 2008
Big Jim wrote:
Anyone know Dustin Howard's parent's names? address? phone #? They shouldn't be allowed to hide behind sissy media editors. Stand up and let the people judge you, your family and your lifestyle. Let the public scorn and humiliation rain down. These people should be hounded and hectored for the rest of their lives so they never, ever forget the way their defective spawn killed another human being and ruined that family's life. Every aspect of their lives should be held up for public view, stripped of any privacy and bare before the howling, baying mob. And thats just day one. If you can't stand the heat, get out of my kitchen.
I am also from the fine city of Rochester, NY and live close to thsi community. This is a great american city, but the citizens look the other way when applying the rules to themselves. The buble has offically been broken and hopefully a few changes are in order for some ppublic officals and school staff. I have personally brought similar concerns to light with little or no response. Personally I think everyone that watched that fight should be charged as an accessory to this heinous crime and have a felony follow conviction follow them forever. I STILL CAN'T BELEIVE THAT SOMEONE VIDEO TAPED THIS!!!!
For Dustins family

Kansas City, MO

#6 Mar 24, 2008
I understand all your hate for the young man who made a mistake but until you know all the facts and figure you are no better than him to judge him the way all of you guys are doing. Yes i have sadest for the young man that lost his life BUT there is a life that is still at risk and that is dustin's life. He made a mistake and he will have to live with what he had done for the rest of his life but he isnot the only one at fault. The other boy also agreed to meet him there to fight and yes i have kids and kids are going to be kids and fight and there is nothing we can do about that. So before you jugde dustin and his family you need to have the whole story from both sides but no one will ever have the true story form the other boy because he took it to the grave with him. So for who ever reads this just remember how you was when you as a kid and the mistakes you made before you jugde anyone else. God be with you Dustin and your family I know you are loved and are been Prayed for. Hold your head high and remember it was a mistake and you can't take it back as deal with it the best you can. Your family loves you
DONT WORRY ABOUT IT

Kansas City, MO

#7 Mar 26, 2008
UNTIL YOU SEE THE FACTS AND THE VIDEO YOU HAVE NO RIGHT TO BASH DUSTIN AND HIS FAMILY!! I'M NOT SAYING WHAT HAPPENEND IS RIGHT BUT WHAT ALL OF YOU ARE ON HERE SAYING ISN'T RIGHT EITHER. SO WHAT YOU ARE SAYING IS THAT IT IS OKAY FOR THE DAD OF THE VICTIM TO THREATEN DUSTIN. DON'T YOU EVER READ THE BIBLE? GOD IS THE ONLY ONE WHO CAN JUDGE ANYONE NONE OF YOU PEOPLE HAVE THAT RIGHT!!! AND YES I AM SUPPORTING DUSTIN AND HIS FAMILY AND WILL BACK THEM UP THRU ALL OF THIS. DAKOTA KNEW HE SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN FIGHTING? IF YOU WATCH THE NEWS DUSTIN'S FAMILY RELEASED HIS SCHOOL RECORDS FOR THE PUBLIC TO SEE BUT IT TOOK A VERY LONG TIME FOR THE FAMILY OF DAKOTA TO RELEASE HIS!!! HMMM GO FIGURE. DUSTIN HAD NOTHING ON HIS SCHOOL RECORDS, BUT DAKOTA DID!!! IMAGE THAT. SO IF YOU THINK THAT THE VICTIM WAS SUCH A SAINT MAYBE YOU BETTER THINK AGAIN.. DUSTIN WILL HAVE TO LIVE WITH WHAT HE DONE FOR EVER, BUT HE CAN ALWAYS COUNT ON GOD TO BE THERE TO HAVE HIS BACK ALONG WITH HIS FAMILY, BUT FOR ALL YOU JERKS OUT THERE CAN YOU LIVE WITH WHAT YOU HAVE SAID OR DONE? JUST REMEMBER GOD KNOWS EVERYTHING AND SEES EVERYTHING. SO WHEN IT ALL COMES DOWN TO IT DUSTIN IS JUST AN ORDINARY 16 YEAR OLD BOY WHO STOOD UP FOR HIMSELF BECAUSE PEOPLE LIKE YOU WOULDN'T!!! DON'T YOU REMEMBER BEING A KID AND ALL OF THE MISTAKES YOU MADE? SO YOU ALL ARE SAYING IS THAT DUSTIN WENT OUT WITH THE INTENTION TO KILL THIS KID IF THAT WAS THE CASE WHY DIDN'T HE TAKE ANY WEAPONS WITH HIM? HE WENT TO HAVE A FIGHT THAT BOY BOTH AGREED TO HAVE. NONE OF YOU HAVE KNOW DUSTIN FROM BIRTH ON YOU ARE GOING ON WHAT YOU HEAR FROM THE NEWS? A BUNCH OF OVER PAYED BUTTHOLES WHO LIKE TO EXAGGERATE FOR THERE RATINGS.. I SHOULD KNOW. THE LADY FROM CHANNEL 9 TO BE EXACT OVER EXAGGERATED ON SEVERAL OF THINGS.. SO TIL YOU KNOW THE WHOLE TRUTH YOU NEED TO GROW UP!!! MY PRAYERS OUR AND ALWAYS WILL BE WITH THE FAMILY OF DUSTIN HOWARD...
ADULTS ONLY

Kansas City, MO

#8 Mar 26, 2008
THIS IS A BLOG FOR ADULTS ONLY. THE REASON I SAY THIS IS BECAUSE WHAT I HAVE READ ON HERE IS APPARENTLY DONE BY A BUNCH OF CHILDREN. I HAPPEN TO KNOW DUSTIN PERSONALY AND I AM NOT AFRAID TO ADMIT IT. ALL YOU KNOW IS WHAT YOU READ IN THE MEDIA HAVE YOU SAT AND HAD A CONVERSATION WITH HIM OR HIS FAMILY. HAVE YOU SAT AND HAD A CONVERSTION WITH DAKOTAS? ARE YOU AWARE THAT DAKOTA HAD A HEART CONDITION I KNOW THAT YOU ARE BECAUSE THE MEDIA REPORTED IT. DID YOU ALSO KNOW THAT HE WAS THE ONE WHO INITIATED THE FIGHT. DID YOU KNOW THAT THIS WHOLE ISSUE WITH DAKOTAS FAMILY IS ABOUT BULLYING? ISNT THAT WHAT DAKOTAS DAD DID WHEN HE THREATNED DUSTIN AND HIS FAMILY. THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT GET INTO FIGHTS ADULTS AND KIDS ALIKE. SHOULDNT DAKOTA HAVE TAKEN RESONSIBILITY FOR HIS OWN ACTIONS AND HEALTH BY NOT ASKING FOR THE FIGHT IN THE FIRST PLACE ?DID ANY OF YOU KNOW THAT DUSTIN WAS THE ONLY ONE THAT TRIED TO HELP HIM? NO WELL THATS BECAUSE IT WASNT REPORTED IN THE MEDIA. HOW DO YOU BEAT SOME ONE TO DEATH WITH THREE HITS? WOULD YOU ALL BE SAYING THE THINGS YOU ARE SAYING IF IT WAS DUSTIN THAT DIED. AND TO YOU a**HO** IN NEW YORK WHAT THE HELL DO YOU KNOW THIS A FREE COUNTRY AND ALL BUT YOU DONT LIVE HERE DONT KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THE CASE SO SHUT YOUR EFFING YAP NEW YORK HAS A LOT WORSE CRIMES THAN WE DO. I LOVE DUSTIN AND WILL SUPPORT HIM AND WHILE THIS WAS A TRAGEDY IT IS EVEN MORE TRAGIC FOR DUSTIN TO HAVE TO EVENTUALLY GET ON HERE AND SEE WHAT THE REAL WORLD IS LIKE A BUNCH OF HIPPOCRITICAL MAGGOTS THAT DONT KNOW THERE AS* FROM A WHOLE IN THE GROUND. IT DOSNT MATTER WHAT YOU ALL THINK ANYWAY....TO DUSITN FOR ALL THE A**HOLES OUT THERE WHO HATE YOU YOU HAVE THE LOVE AND SUPPORT OF FRIENDS AND FAMILY THAT WILL BE THERE FOR YOU NO MATTER WHAT I AM PRAYING FOR YOU AND YOUR SISTERS AND MOM AND DAD. SCREW THESE PEOPLE YOU DONT NEED THEM.
faith

Menomonee Falls, WI

#9 Mar 31, 2008
i think the boy who bully my friend should go to jail for a month. i hate bullys. i was bully myself too. i was only at the age of 14. it my worse nightmare. i use to a lot acne on my face. until now i dont rarely have them, right now, but back then i do.
FYI: plz dont let ur children bullyed an other child.
why tpying this, because i learn it from exeperince.
it hurts when hearing the deaths of ur friends.
u know what i want little kids to know is to not bully others.
Rural Kansas

Osage City, KS

#11 Apr 2, 2008
Hey Mission,

Go back to your Ivory Tower! Dustin and pals need to pay the piper for being low life spoiled brats. If more parents make their kids tow the line, there will be less incidents like this. Go Back to your New BMW,your kids video games and corporate white collar life.
Brittani martin

Menomonee Falls, WI

#12 Apr 5, 2008
what the hell does spolied brats and bmws have to even do with this?
a GEHS parent

Silver Lake, KS

#13 Apr 5, 2008
Big Jim wrote:
Anyone know Dustin Howard's parent's names? address? phone #? They shouldn't be allowed to hide behind sissy media editors. Stand up and let the people judge you, your family and your lifestyle. Let the public scorn and humiliation rain down. These people should be hounded and hectored for the rest of their lives so they never, ever forget the way their defective spawn killed another human being and ruined that family's life. Every aspect of their lives should be held up for public view, stripped of any privacy and bare before the howling, baying mob. And thats just day one. If you can't stand the heat, get out of my kitchen.
Its funny to me how all you can sit back and judge when you know nothing about these kids and this case. I am a parent of a child that went to school and was friends with both boys. Is is very tragic for both families. There is no winner here. Unfortunately, boys will be boys. Thats how its always been and how it always will be. Boys get in fights everyday. Sadly enough, Dakota suffered from a genetic heart condition, which is what took his life, not Dustin. So before you go judging the parents or the child, maybe you should get some facts straight.
gardner mom

Oklahoma City, OK

#14 Apr 20, 2008
Everyone will have their own thoughts and opinions concerning this fight, but what baffles me is the fact that the "witnesses" are still congratulating each other on lying in court in the hallways at school and have no remorse at all. It doesn't really matter if you liked Dakota or not, but is there no respect for the dead?? I guess it's much easier to blame the "weaker" person in everything so maybe next time Dustin or his friends might knock over an elderly person or a handicapped person and laugh about that. I truly believe that if Dustin does feel remorse, which I'm sure he does, he needs to tell his buddies to stop the crap since he's the only one paying for his actions and they seem to think it's a joke. I just hope none of them or their families have to rely on the help of strangers or of someone that doesn't like them.
no consequences

Oklahoma City, OK

#15 Apr 21, 2008
DONT WORRY ABOUT IT wrote:
UNTIL YOU SEE THE FACTS AND THE VIDEO YOU HAVE NO RIGHT TO BASH DUSTIN AND HIS FAMILY!! I'M NOT SAYING WHAT HAPPENEND IS RIGHT BUT WHAT ALL OF YOU ARE ON HERE SAYING ISN'T RIGHT EITHER. SO WHAT YOU ARE SAYING IS THAT IT IS OKAY FOR THE DAD OF THE VICTIM TO THREATEN DUSTIN. DON'T YOU EVER READ THE BIBLE? GOD IS THE ONLY ONE WHO CAN JUDGE ANYONE NONE OF YOU PEOPLE HAVE THAT RIGHT!!! AND YES I AM SUPPORTING DUSTIN AND HIS FAMILY AND WILL BACK THEM UP THRU ALL OF THIS. DAKOTA KNEW HE SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN FIGHTING? IF YOU WATCH THE NEWS DUSTIN'S FAMILY RELEASED HIS SCHOOL RECORDS FOR THE PUBLIC TO SEE BUT IT TOOK A VERY LONG TIME FOR THE FAMILY OF DAKOTA TO RELEASE HIS!!! HMMM GO FIGURE. DUSTIN HAD NOTHING ON HIS SCHOOL RECORDS, BUT DAKOTA DID!!! IMAGE THAT. SO IF YOU THINK THAT THE VICTIM WAS SUCH A SAINT MAYBE YOU BETTER THINK AGAIN.. DUSTIN WILL HAVE TO LIVE WITH WHAT HE DONE FOR EVER, BUT HE CAN ALWAYS COUNT ON GOD TO BE THERE TO HAVE HIS BACK ALONG WITH HIS FAMILY, BUT FOR ALL YOU JERKS OUT THERE CAN YOU LIVE WITH WHAT YOU HAVE SAID OR DONE? JUST REMEMBER GOD KNOWS EVERYTHING AND SEES EVERYTHING. SO WHEN IT ALL COMES DOWN TO IT DUSTIN IS JUST AN ORDINARY 16 YEAR OLD BOY WHO STOOD UP FOR HIMSELF BECAUSE PEOPLE LIKE YOU WOULDN'T!!! DON'T YOU REMEMBER BEING A KID AND ALL OF THE MISTAKES YOU MADE? SO YOU ALL ARE SAYING IS THAT DUSTIN WENT OUT WITH THE INTENTION TO KILL THIS KID IF THAT WAS THE CASE WHY DIDN'T HE TAKE ANY WEAPONS WITH HIM? HE WENT TO HAVE A FIGHT THAT BOY BOTH AGREED TO HAVE. NONE OF YOU HAVE KNOW DUSTIN FROM BIRTH ON YOU ARE GOING ON WHAT YOU HEAR FROM THE NEWS? A BUNCH OF OVER PAYED BUTTHOLES WHO LIKE TO EXAGGERATE FOR THERE RATINGS.. I SHOULD KNOW. THE LADY FROM CHANNEL 9 TO BE EXACT OVER EXAGGERATED ON SEVERAL OF THINGS.. SO TIL YOU KNOW THE WHOLE TRUTH YOU NEED TO GROW UP!!! MY PRAYERS OUR AND ALWAYS WILL BE WITH THE FAMILY OF DUSTIN HOWARD...
Of course Dustin's family opened his records....most of the jocks at GEHS have clean records no matter what they do or say so why wouldn't they!! I know this for a fact because my child has been bullied by some of them and nothing is done and not one thing is in their records. Another point, of course he didn't intend to kill him, HENSE THE INVOLUNTARY MANSLAUGHTER charge!!!! Even if Dakota's father is a bully, does that mean Dakota was?? Of course not. Could that be why the mother stated that the children weren't in contact with their father. If Dustin did try and help Dakota, good for him, at least he's better than some of the other "girls" that were there and ran!! That at least shows he has some compassion, but he still needs to have consequences, just as Dakota would have had if the tables were turned. I know for a fact, regardless of what the boys have said, they knew Dakota had a heart problem because kids at the school that didn't really know him knew he had it. I just wish that if folks knew their kids were there, teach them about respect for the deceased whether they liked them or not. Unfortunately some of the kids are still laughing and thinks it's funny. No matter who started the fight or initiated it, Dustin's friends and family would be just as outraged if it were him that died.

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