Holzer clinic
AnnoyedByIgnoran ce

Point Pleasant, WV

#67 Nov 15, 2010
Lin wrote:
I know they are separate... But he worked in the hospital and was hired by the clinic. And I sincerely do hope they go under, just because of what they allowed to happen.
Anyway, I stated his name earlier, around the first page. And it's in the link on the previous page, if you're really interested. I'm not a fan of repeating myself, as I have already done a hundred times. Sorry.
Thank you for your sympathy.
Sorry, new to this crazy site. Found the name after I posted. Curious to read up about him. But I do know for a fact, not all doctor's are Clinic & Hospital employees. I don't recall Swanson every being a clinic doc. But thanks for the info. I wouldn't care if the hospital went under, but I like the clinic & I don't want it to go with it. I've went there for 6 yrs now, since I moved into the area. But 1000's of ppl losing their jobs because of a few issues, that could be corrected if reported properly, would be a devastation to the community & state.
Lin

Hamilton, OH

#68 Nov 15, 2010
Haha, I'm 17. It's my senior year in high school. So umm... yeah. I have a 4.0 right now and I'm in college prep classes, I'm pretty sure I can get into premed.:)

No apologies. But, yes he was hired by the clinic. My parents know the woman who was fired over it and have it documented. That's why I don't like the clinic. Everyone has their opinions. You like them? Good for you. I'm sure you have your reasons as I have mine for feeling the complete opposite. At least you're...you know... nicer about it.
AnnoyedByIgnoran ce

Point Pleasant, WV

#69 Nov 16, 2010
Lin wrote:
Haha, I'm 17. It's my senior year in high school. So umm... yeah. I have a 4.0 right now and I'm in college prep classes, I'm pretty sure I can get into premed.:)
No apologies. But, yes he was hired by the clinic. My parents know the woman who was fired over it and have it documented. That's why I don't like the clinic. Everyone has their opinions. You like them? Good for you. I'm sure you have your reasons as I have mine for feeling the complete opposite. At least you're...you know... nicer about it.
Yeah, the others on here were really harsh to you. Well, I'm glad the doctor is gone, from the clinic. But if he really is that bad of a doctor then he wouldn't be practicing anymore... But who knows? Best of luck in college
Lin

Hamilton, OH

#70 Nov 16, 2010
Like "flatoutfact" said, he fooled the AOA into thinking he had completed training. And since this never got out, no one else would be aware of it. So, that's probably why he's still practicing.

Thank you.
Spaszed

Columbus, OH

#71 Nov 18, 2010
Hi Lin,
I'm very sorry to hear about your grandma. I'm very familiar with your grandma's case. I'd like to talk to you and answer some of the questions that you have about what happened to your grandmas and the physician you mentioned. Feel free to email me at [email protected] I'd really like to hear from you.
Lin

Hamilton, OH

#72 Nov 19, 2010
Hi Spaszed,
I'll be in touch. Thank you sooooo much.
LOL

United States

#73 Nov 19, 2010
This is funny... but Isnt this blog supposed to be about Holzer Clinic???? Holzer Hospital is separate...so maybe you should make your own blog. I am a Holzer Clinic Employee... I love how everyone likes to complain about the care they receive but the same ones that complain keep coming back!
Lin

Hamilton, OH

#74 Nov 19, 2010
Haha, well the Clinic hired him so whatever. Please get a life or learn to show a little compassion. :) And FYI, I don't go there anymore. And some people don't have a choice but to go there, with times being as challenging as they are. Everyone has their opinions, and the Clinic and Hospital could stand for some improvement, regardless. 'Nough said from me. No point in starting a fight.
Bryan

Columbus, OH

#75 Nov 19, 2010
Hi Lin,
First off, I'd like to express my deepest condolences to you and your family for your loss. It is never easy to lose the people you love, so I certainly understand where you're coming from. I know Michael, and his family, and feel somewhat wronged by your erroneous accounts of what happened. Michael is a good man, and more so, a good doctor. If you had the opportunity to speak with his wife and daughter, you would understand that medical negligence is the antithesis of this man's life. I understand your grief, and I certainly see that you are looking for some sort of outlet to place blame on, but Michael Swanson doesn't deserve your ire. He didn't ask to operate on your grandmother, nor did he ask to use a machine that failed during the surgery. You're attempting to place the blame on a man who fought to save your grandmother's life, not take it away. I can't tell you how to think or feel, nor would I if I could, all I ask is that you recognize that doctors, particularly those that are entrusted with the lives of their patients, are not negligent, just unlucky. Along those lines, Dr. Swanson is not a cardiologist, he is a Cardiothoracic Vascular Surgeon, and as far as credentials are concerned, the only person who is highly unqualified is you. Your libelous claims that he lacks a license (it is illegal to practice any form of "modern medicine" in the United States without such a license) is criminal, no matter how much hurt this situation may have brought you and your family. Mr. Swanson never worked for a landscaping company. Furthermore, Dr. Swanson has travelled throughout the U.S. working for several heart centers, having never been removed for complaints at any of his previous hospitals, either by the employer or the patients and families he serviced.

I don't mean to be callous or irreverent, but I find your post to be irresponsible and somewhat criminal. I can understand that you are experiencing loss, as many people will within their lifetimes do, but it is unfair to blame a man you do not know. I have never performed heart surgery, and I'm assuming you haven't either, so hold your accusations of medical negligence. Dr. Michael Swanson is a heart surgeon, and a good one. One day, I hope you will understand that medicine is not in place to cure death, and doctors do no actively pursue that end.
Lin

Hamilton, OH

#76 Nov 19, 2010
It was PROVED it was negligence, that's why there was a settlement. And we know they all lied about it, so obviously something is up. I know there was a clamp that came off the machine and it took longer than it should have for a good heart surgeon to find the problem. That's why she ended up braindead and furthermore, why she was in a coma for one day shy of 6 weeks.

Oh, and right... we've called his previous employers and the places where he obtained his eduaction. Sorry, but... they either didn't know who we were talking about and said he was never there or he was there and it was for something entirely different.

If he had really fought to save her, he would have found the problem sooner. Then we probably wouldn't be having this discussion. And I really never said he didn't have a license. Just ask "Flatoutfact". And if he didn't ask to operate on her, knowing he WASN'T supposed to operate alone, why the hell did he? It wasn't an emergency; she could have waited until the other surgeon returned from vacation. But NO.

And I don't care if I know him or not... He performed the surgery, the clinic was warned not to hire him... what does that mean? I mean... why would someone WARN them not to hire him if he was sooooo good!

I don't know what happened. That's what I'm trying to find out. We know we were lied to about it, and since I got the same story from him a few months ago, it leads me to think he's covering something up too. I've wanted to forgive him, but until I know the truth, I just can't. Everyone makes mistakes and if they would just admit it... Fear is a powerful weapon though...huh.

I wish I had the opportunity to speak with all of them, but unfortunately, I don't. And your testimony doesn't make me feel inclined to believe in him any more than I already did.

By the way, Bryan, do you work at Holzer?
Bryan

Columbus, OH

#77 Nov 19, 2010
No, Lin, I do not, nor have I ever held a position at Holzer Clinic. To say I work for the State shall suffice for now. My major qualm with this situation lies with your libel, both the intentional and the pathetic. If you had called the institutions from which the doctor in question received his degrees (yes, as in more than one) you would be better prepared to publish condemning facts of medical negligence on public forums. As for the settlement you speak of, that settlement was reached with the Holzer Clinic for medical negligence, not the aforementioned doctor in question. Please don't misconstrue this as some form of testimony, either. I am merely interested in the preservation of the responsible sharing of information, not hysterics and finger pointing on the internet. As a senior in High School interested in studying Pre-Med, you should understand that these sorts of things are:

a) highly damaging to your credibility, particularly in reference to Med School applications.

b) covered in the law, both of this state and that of the nation, seeing as you've more than once stated the doctor's full name, city of current practice, etc. While dealing with the law, you should note that every instance listed on this public forum in which you've claimed something as fact is documented. Should any of these statements prove false (which is to say a glaring majority) then you are guilty of printed defamation via the Internet, an offense called libel.

But you knew that.

What happened to your family is a tragedy, and for that you have my sympathy. For your blatant disregard for the "truth" you so virtuously pursue, you have my pity.
Bryan

Columbus, OH

#78 Nov 19, 2010
Lin wrote:
Like "flatoutfact" said, he fooled the AOA into thinking he had completed training. And since this never got out, no one else would be aware of it. So, that's probably why he's still practicing.
Thank you.
This, for example, is libel.

If you'd care to explain how one might go about "fooling" the American Osteopathic Association, by all means. If not, please keep your garbage to a minimum.
Lin

Hamilton, OH

#79 Nov 19, 2010
Sure.
Holzer

Staten Island, NY

#80 Nov 20, 2010
Does anyone know that there is a place called OCEA that you can call about this stuff if it is really this bad and what is being said is true? I am not here to say it is not.. but if it is.. something needs to be done.. call OCEA and complain, call the Better Business Bureau start making phone calls instead of sitting here complaining about the place...
sawit withmyowneyes wrote:
I have seen the employees at Holzer shopping online while on the clock and patients are waiting in the waiting room. I have also heard them talking about the patients hygiene and making fun of other employees as the are walking by. Watched the employees looking through magazines while patients are waiting. I wouldn't take my dog there for treatment. I would be embarassed to say that I worked at Holzer!!!
Holzer

Staten Island, NY

#81 Nov 20, 2010
I am n total agreement with you
LOL wrote:
This is funny... but Isnt this blog supposed to be about Holzer Clinic???? Holzer Hospital is separate...so maybe you should make your own blog. I am a Holzer Clinic Employee... I love how everyone likes to complain about the care they receive but the same ones that complain keep coming back!
lovetobefree

Point Pleasant, WV

#82 Nov 20, 2010
Holzer Hospital is a bad place to work. Holzer Staff is very disrespectfull to patients makeing fun of them and laughing at them behind there backs. This was my experience I saw it first hand the report room made me sick! I have never seen a bunch of more mean and nasty comments about every pt on tape. In general my experience at Holzer Hospital was the worst ever and not only did I choose to quit my job I also will never have a family member seen at the place ever again.
Fyi

Dallas, TX

#83 Nov 20, 2010
I guess it depends on the doctor and what your being seen for. I went there when I had my baby and loved jeri kitchen. She's is great. I didn't like the ob nurses that worked night shift there though.
My kids also see capelletti and I love her as well.
knowing

Point Pleasant, WV

#84 Nov 20, 2010
Bad care, rude nurses, bad bed side mannor, bad billing, bad clinic, cell phone using staff laughing staff need i say more?
Chrissy

Columbus, OH

#85 Nov 20, 2010
lovetobefree wrote:
Holzer Hospital is a bad place to work. Holzer Staff is very disrespectfull to patients makeing fun of them and laughing at them behind there backs. This was my experience I saw it first hand the report room made me sick! I have never seen a bunch of more mean and nasty comments about every pt on tape. In general my experience at Holzer Hospital was the worst ever and not only did I choose to quit my job I also will never have a family member seen at the place ever again.
With bad comes good and vice versa. No place is perfect. I don't believe that there is a perfect hospital/clinic out there, because the fact is that no one is perfect. Holzer may not be the best but there is no point in tearing the entire institution down. There are plenty of good people who have, do, and will work there. Let's all try to be considerate. Problems should be addressed but in a more constructive manner.
I guess

Point Pleasant, WV

#86 Nov 20, 2010
The only good thing about my experience at Holzer is I learned not to trust anyone.

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