twin lakes director election

twin lakes director election

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whitehorse

Gainesboro, TN

#1 May 9, 2011
Seems quiet this year. Gary Flynn was unopposed last election. Everyone seems to like him here. i believe he got over a 1000 complimentary votes last time he ran.
Jim sonweed

Cookeville, TN

#2 May 10, 2011
whitehorse wrote:
Seems quiet this year. Gary Flynn was unopposed last election. Everyone seems to like him here. i believe he got over a 1000 complimentary votes last time he ran.
Flynn would be a difficult opponent, everybody gives him a good name. Rumor has Larry Dudney considering race against Flynn. Dudney is well known in Jackson County but don't know how he would in other counties. Also possibly Benton Quarrels?
facts

Knoxville, TN

#3 May 10, 2011
Jim sonweed wrote:
<quoted text> Flynn would be a difficult opponent, everybody gives him a good name. Rumor has Larry Dudney considering race against Flynn. Dudney is well known in Jackson County but don't know how he would in other counties. Also possibly Benton Quarrels?
some body needs to run. i dont think it is fair if they are elected three terms they get their medical insurance paid for life. No wonder the telephone and electic bills are so high. if people would vote them out afte two terms the utilities would soon get the drift that we dont wont to pay their insurance.
Good idea

Gainesboro, TN

#4 May 10, 2011
facts wrote:
<quoted text> some body needs to run. i dont think it is fair if they are elected three terms they get their medical insurance paid for life. No wonder the telephone and electic bills are so high. if people would vote them out afte two terms the utilities would soon get the drift that we dont wont to pay their insurance.
you know that is a pretty good idea. Of course they would have to do away with all insurance for life for all former directors who have insurance for life and all retired employees and any who retire in the future because of the bylaws of the COOP. Now that would really save some money. I don't think it would be too popular though.
EveryoneStickTog ether

Knoxville, TN

#5 May 10, 2011
Good idea wrote:
<quoted text> you know that is a pretty good idea. Of course they would have to do away with all insurance for life for all former directors who have insurance for life and all retired employees and any who retire in the future because of the bylaws of the COOP. Now that would really save some money. I don't think it would be too popular though.
It probably wouldnt but it sure would save us some money. I dont know if the one's who have it now would be grandfathered in or not. They may be. But we sure could stop all this spending on paying someones insurance just because they are on the board. I mean everyone shuld have to put a little money into their insurance program. By the way, another one who will be running for third term is Billy Scott for UCEMC. Just saying, i know we are talking about twin lakes but the same applies at both places. Everyone stick together to make a change!
facts ii

Smartt, TN

#6 May 10, 2011
directors have to get elected four times to get insurance. thats twelve years of dedication so i dont have problem with them getting insurance. also, i don't know of any director who has gotten the minimum number of years to get insurance and then quit. also know that no one comes into a job like that very qualified. it takes considerable amount of time to learn something like that. so not sure replacing directors every few years would be best interest of our coop.
Williemakeit

Gainesboro, TN

#7 May 10, 2011
EveryoneStickTogether wrote:
<quoted text> It probably wouldnt but it sure would save us some money. I dont know if the one's who have it now would be grandfathered in or not. They may be. But we sure could stop all this spending on paying someones insurance just because they are on the board. I mean everyone shuld have to put a little money into their insurance program. By the way, another one who will be running for third term is Billy Scott for UCEMC. Just saying, i know we are talking about twin lakes but the same applies at both places. Everyone stick together to make a change!
. We might not even have a coop in 4 or 5 years the way Verizon and ATT are taking over. Wireless is taking over anyway and they have the ownership of the spectrum. TLTC will probably be out of business. Or at least a major downsize. Then benefits won't be an issue, though I am sure the big companies have good benefits for their employees that their customers will be paying for. Seems we can't win, we will pay for someone's insurance regardless.
Williemakeit

Gainesboro, TN

#8 May 10, 2011
EveryoneStickTogether wrote:
<quoted text> It probably wouldnt but it sure would save us some money. I dont know if the one's who have it now would be grandfathered in or not. They may be. But we sure could stop all this spending on paying someones insurance just because they are on the board. I mean everyone shuld have to put a little money into their insurance program. By the way, another one who will be running for third term is Billy Scott for UCEMC. Just saying, i know we are talking about twin lakes but the same applies at both places. Everyone stick together to make a change!
nah,why grandfather anyone the old directors don't deserve it any more than the current directors. You might be right that everyone should pay for half of their insurance. what other benefits do directors have?
bylawreader

Gainesboro, TN

#9 May 13, 2011
Good idea wrote:
<quoted text> you know that is a pretty good idea. Of course they would have to do away with all insurance for life for all former directors who have insurance for life and all retired employees and any who retire in the future because of the bylaws of the COOP. Now that would really save some money. I don't think it would be too popular though.
the bylaws state that directors are entitled to all benefits of the employees. that means not only insurance but all the fringe benefits paid to the employees. that means retirement benefits and any other benefit the employees get. even if they get no salary that is really good compensation. i believ they get a monthy fee for meetings of 500.dollars.they also get reimbursed for expenses. article 4. section 7. in the front of the telephone book.
big blow

Smartt, TN

#10 May 16, 2011
directors do not get retirement, although bylaws do say same benefits. dont get 500 a month either. i am sure they do get reimbursed for expenses. otherwise no one would be a director.
voter

Jamestown, TN

#11 May 18, 2011
facts ii wrote:
directors have to get elected four times to get insurance. thats twelve years of dedication so i dont have problem with them getting insurance. also, i don't know of any director who has gotten the minimum number of years to get insurance and then quit. also know that no one comes into a job like that very qualified. it takes considerable amount of time to learn something like that. so not sure replacing directors every few years would be best interest of our coop.
You dont have aproblem with them getting insurance. Did you miss the point. Example: If someone elected is 30 years old and they stay in there the required terms (3 or 4) and they live to be 70 years old we have to pay their insurance for 40 years. do the math. Look at what this is costing us. And this example is just for one person.
voter

Jamestown, TN

#12 May 18, 2011
Williemakeit wrote:
<quoted text>. We might not even have a coop in 4 or 5 years the way Verizon and ATT are taking over. Wireless is taking over anyway and they have the ownership of the spectrum. TLTC will probably be out of business. Or at least a major downsize. Then benefits won't be an issue, though I am sure the big companies have good benefits for their employees that their customers will be paying for. Seems we can't win, we will pay for someone's insurance regardless.
why is it that in some counties the larger companies offer cable, internet, and phone all for about $90 and in Jackson County we have to pay $42 for cable or more for dish, about $40 for phone and another $30 to $40 for internet?
voter

Jamestown, TN

#13 May 18, 2011
Williemakeit wrote:
<quoted text> nah,why grandfather anyone the old directors don't deserve it any more than the current directors. You might be right that everyone should pay for half of their insurance. what other benefits do directors have?
I think you missed the point. They was not saying grandfather them in. If a new bylaw is passed stating no more insurance. Grandfathering them in means the one's already with the insurance is exempt from the change in the bylaw due to the fact that they held office while the old bylaw was in effect. Oh forget it you cant explain anything to someone from Jackson County.
just saying

Pauline, SC

#14 May 20, 2011
directors get no benifits except insurance and they have to have 12 years service and 55 years old to recieve this when they leave then at 65 they go on medicare so your not talking about a life time benifit of 30 years like some of you think.Read their bylaws it explains it in plain english.
huh

Gainesboro, TN

#15 May 26, 2011
voter wrote:
<quoted text> I think you missed the point. They was not saying grandfather them in. If a new bylaw is passed stating no more insurance. Grandfathering them in means the one's already with the insurance is exempt from the change in the bylaw due to the fact that they held office while the old bylaw was in effect. Oh forget it you cant explain anything to someone from Jackson County.


why should the old ones get something the new ones don't? were they better? all should or all shouldn't. maybe they earn what they get.
Oh no not again

Livingston, TN

#16 Jun 16, 2011
The directors are well taken care of. Since this is a co-op, I think that financials should be open to all members. They have lots of perks they do not want everyone to know about. Heck, I think I may run for director...who couldn't use an extra several hundred dollars a month and good medical benefits for sittin' around on your duff. Would anyone care to guess where their yearly meeting is being held this year? They get to take their families, and we the members get to pay for it.
grannie clampet

Pauline, SC

#17 Jun 16, 2011
Oh no not again wrote:
The directors are well taken care of. Since this is a co-op, I think that financials should be open to all members. They have lots of perks they do not want everyone to know about. Heck, I think I may run for director...who couldn't use an extra several hundred dollars a month and good medical benefits for sittin' around on your duff. Would anyone care to guess where their yearly meeting is being held this year? They get to take their families, and we the members get to pay for it.
when I ask about this I found out its completly wrong if a director takes their spouse or anyone else the co-op pays for director only and when a bylaw changes it will only effect future employees or directors and the sooner its done the better.If this was done 20 years ago today it wouldn't be an issue.
sallie goodin

Pauline, SC

#18 Jun 16, 2011
the pay is not several hundred a month,they get insurance, no other employee benifits and the co-op pays only the directors expense on trips all family members if they go is paid by them.any bylaw change will effect future employees and directors and the sooner the better should been done 20 years ago where everyone pays part then today it would not be issue.The old director and employees are grandfather in because thats the contract they were promised but new ones know the deal coming in.If something not done post retirement benifits with so many retiring will put the co-op in financial jepordy.
o no not again

Gainesboro, TN

#19 Jun 19, 2011
Oh no not again wrote:
The directors are well taken care of. Since this is a co-op, I think that financials should be open to all members. They have lots of perks they do not want everyone to know about. Heck, I think I may run for director...who couldn't use an extra several hundred dollars a month and good medical benefits for sittin' around on your duff. Would anyone care to guess where their yearly meeting is being held this year? They get to take their families, and we the members get to pay for it.
go ahead and try it. you might do better this time! lol.
HowIseeit

Gainesboro, TN

#20 Jun 25, 2011
Twin Lakes is a joke. It's all about the money, NOT the service.

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