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Rebecca Wilson

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Dec 14, 2010
 

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People that do not pay their property taxes should not be allowed to keep their property. There are people that has not paid their taxes for years, some going back to 1985. The state holds the lean on the properties til someone wants to buy them. But when we do want to buy them we have to wait 3 years before we can take ownership. Then the so called owner has the right any time in that 3 years to come back and buy it back. It's not right. If they are not going to pay the taxes for years and live in the house for free and someone comes and pays the taxes for them that person should be able to take possession of the property then. This law needs to be changed. I know there are others out there that is going through the samething I am. So let's band together and get this law changed.

Rebecca Wilson
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Sylacauga, AL

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Dec 14, 2010
 
Rebecca Wilson wrote:
People that do not pay their property taxes should not be allowed to keep their property. There are people that has not paid their taxes for years, some going back to 1985. The state holds the lean on the properties til someone wants to buy them. But when we do want to buy them we have to wait 3 years before we can take ownership. Then the so called owner has the right any time in that 3 years to come back and buy it back. It's not right. If they are not going to pay the taxes for years and live in the house for free and someone comes and pays the taxes for them that person should be able to take possession of the property then. This law needs to be changed. I know there are others out there that is going through the samething I am. So let's band together and get this law changed.
Rebecca Wilson
Good idea but it will take a lot to change the laws because there are so many varibles on notification of the property owners and their heirs and sucessors. You buy a property and heirs come back with lawyers against you and the county for one mistake in the sale and notification process of possible heirs and you will have to buy back your property regardless of what you have invested in it. Don't play the foreclosure and tax sale game unless you have the extra cash to play the waiting game.
David Dallas-Mi9dgley

Tuscaloosa, AL

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Dec 15, 2010
 
Things do need to be changed. If they don't care enough to pay their taxes why should they or any heirs have a right to come and take it back. I feel if they have a right to the property (the heirs) in the case of a death then the property shouldn't be offered for sale until all possible legal heirs should be contacted through the Probate court before it can be offered to the public. Once offered it should go to whoever wins the bid and has the cash. Final.
ThomasA

Sylacauga, AL

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Dec 15, 2010
 
Not saying that it would EVER happen in Alabama,but the time frame puts a slight restriction on what could happen when a courthouse employee has connections with someone in the real estate market or has a family member flipping properties. Insider information and misplaced notices could help all shady folks involved. The lure of money makes good people do bad things.
Rebecca Wilson

Tuscaloosa, AL

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Dec 16, 2010
 
ThomasA wrote:
Not saying that it would EVER happen in Alabama,but the time frame puts a slight restriction on what could happen when a courthouse employee has connections with someone in the real estate market or has a family member flipping properties. Insider information and misplaced notices could help all shady folks involved. The lure of money makes good people do bad things.
Your not understanding what I'm talking about. Buying property from the state has nothing to do with people dieing or the heirs coming up to claim the property or anything like that. This is just people not paying their taxes and living for free. You have to go through Montgomery to get this property. And that is the only what you can get it. You have to submit to buy and after 3 or 4 months they will send you notice with the price of the back taxes. You then have so many days to decide if you want the property or not. Now if you want that property you pay the taxes and Montgomery sends you the paper work. That is when the house should be yours. Not 3 years down the road.
Susan

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Dec 16, 2010
 
Seems to me if the former owner has 'abandoned' the property, not paid the taxes and the state has taken over, then it should make sure they have a title to the property before it should be able to sell it. The only reason I see that the state may have to wait is the state may be waiting to see if there are any other creditors that may file a lien that would delay the transfer of the property with a clear title. Three years is about the same amount of time someone has to file a lien on property. I don't know about the former owner having the option to come back and pay the taxes and reclaim the property. Seems to me that if they've let it go on long enough for the state to take over, they wouldn't want it back anyway. And the other person was right, because property is considered a person's asset, it is conceivable that during that time frame potential heirs may come along and make a claim on the property. It's not surprising that this cheap way of getting property has all kinds of strings attached. I suggest you call the office you are dealing with in Montgomery and have them give you the reasons why there is a waiting period. It's probably not to deter you from buying, but to make sure that you have a free and clear title.
ThomasA

Sylacauga, AL

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Dec 16, 2010
 
Susan wrote:
Seems to me if the former owner has 'abandoned' the property, not paid the taxes and the state has taken over, then it should make sure they have a title to the property before it should be able to sell it. The only reason I see that the state may have to wait is the state may be waiting to see if there are any other creditors that may file a lien that would delay the transfer of the property with a clear title. Three years is about the same amount of time someone has to file a lien on property. I don't know about the former owner having the option to come back and pay the taxes and reclaim the property. Seems to me that if they've let it go on long enough for the state to take over, they wouldn't want it back anyway. And the other person was right, because property is considered a person's asset, it is conceivable that during that time frame potential heirs may come along and make a claim on the property. It's not surprising that this cheap way of getting property has all kinds of strings attached. I suggest you call the office you are dealing with in Montgomery and have them give you the reasons why there is a waiting period. It's probably not to deter you from buying, but to make sure that you have a free and clear title.
And get a warranty deed instead of a quit claim deed. The warranty requires more research but can save you money and attorney's fees down the road. Don't play if you don't have loose cash to gamble.
Rebecca Wilson

Birmingham, AL

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Dec 17, 2010
 
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<quoted text> And get a warranty deed instead of a quit claim deed. The warranty requires more research but can save you money and attorney's fees down the road. Don't play if you don't have loose cash to gamble.
You still are not getting it. These are people that are living in houses not paying their taxes. You know living free. It's like not paying rent or a mortgage. They are living there scott free. They think just because they have a deed and title to the property they don't have to pay the taxes on it. But that's not the way it works. It has nothing to do with heirs or anything else. It just has to do with people living free and not paying the county and city taxes.
ThomasA

Sylacauga, AL

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Dec 17, 2010
 
I realize that is a loophole in our system. Don't preach to the choir,preach to our state lawmakers for reform. Also the law that requires approx 90 days to get deadbeat renters out of a property needs to be changed to start counting from the last payment received and not from date of eviction notice. This loss of cash flow is tough on those who don't have the cash to play the property game. The other major change that needs to be made is in the way the large commercial farming operations in south Alabama have many tenant workers (legal and illegal) living in shacks and trailers on property carrying farm exemptions but the school busses come and pick up dozens of children without any compensation made thru property taxes. The other unfair item is when property values fall, the county tax people are reluctant to reduce your assessment. Very eager to raise,slow to lower if at all.
Rebecca Wilson

Birmingham, AL

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Dec 17, 2010
 
ThomasA wrote:
I realize that is a loophole in our system. Don't preach to the choir,preach to our state lawmakers for reform. Also the law that requires approx 90 days to get deadbeat renters out of a property needs to be changed to start counting from the last payment received and not from date of eviction notice. This loss of cash flow is tough on those who don't have the cash to play the property game. The other major change that needs to be made is in the way the large commercial farming operations in south Alabama have many tenant workers (legal and illegal) living in shacks and trailers on property carrying farm exemptions but the school busses come and pick up dozens of children without any compensation made thru property taxes. The other unfair item is when property values fall, the county tax people are reluctant to reduce your assessment. Very eager to raise,slow to lower if at all.
I know that is right. I have been emailing all Government Officials that I can think of, even the Governor. And I am trying to get a petition started.
ThomasA

Sylacauga, AL

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Dec 17, 2010
 
Rebecca Wilson wrote:
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I know that is right. I have been emailing all Government Officials that I can think of, even the Governor. And I am trying to get a petition started.
Each school child,to get enrolled,should have a FIRM address that can be presented to the tax assessor's office. Not a PO box or "in care of" ,or RFD. Anything other than the farmer's immediate family should pay,especially those living on the huge commercial corporation owned farms. Too %^$# many kids getting a free ride at the expense of the honest tax payers........ You go girl!!!!!
Rebecca Wilson

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Dec 18, 2010
 
ThomasA wrote:
<quoted text> Each school child,to get enrolled,should have a FIRM address that can be presented to the tax assessor's office. Not a PO box or "in care of" ,or RFD. Anything other than the farmer's immediate family should pay,especially those living on the huge commercial corporation owned farms. Too %^$# many kids getting a free ride at the expense of the honest tax payers........ You go girl!!!!!
well I tell you what if you are all for what I am doing go to http://www.petitiononline.com/tax4131/petitio... and sign my petition. This is what I am trying to. Get this law changed so that scumbags can't live free, and people like us have to pay for our kids to go to school. And have a REAL address.
He who knows

Cicero, IL

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Dec 1, 2011
 
Property taxes are NOT taxes at all! They are property RENTS!!! When you buy a house, what you are really buying is the permission to rent the use of that house, as well as the parcel of land it sits on. As for you, Rebecca Wilson, you are the type of person that really ought to have stayed in a Communist nation, like China, or the USSR, for instance!
Curious

Gadsden, AL

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Dec 9, 2011
 
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You still are not getting it. These are people that are living in houses not paying their taxes. You know living free. It's like not paying rent or a mortgage. They are living there scott free. They think just because they have a deed and title to the property they don't have to pay the taxes on it. But that's not the way it works. It has nothing to do with heirs or anything else. It just has to do with people living free and not paying the county and city taxes.
I was a real estate salesperson out of state for 13 years. I don't know how it works in AL. but if you don't pay your taxes or homesowner's insurance I thought the lender could take back the house.
Patriot

Cicero, IL

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Dec 9, 2011
 
I can tell you one thing, rebecca wilson, nobody is ever going to vote you in! You actually sound like you are from North Korea, and want to convert America into another North Korea.
Rebecca Wilson

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Dec 9, 2011
 
In addition, all disabled piece of $h1t people need to be executed immediately! We are sick and tired of their filth, their horrible hygiene that can be smelled up to a mile away, their drooling on our floors that cause people to slip and fall, and especially some of them getting affectionate in public! Speaking of which, display of affection really needs to be criminalized nationwide and made a felony punishable by at least 50 years in prison. And especially those lethal and dangerous wild apes known as Negros (blacks) also need to be eradicated from our society! Before they turn America into an endless no-man's land! Mexicans and Asians also need to go. The only race that needs to be allowed to live in America is white/caucasion, and Only White and Caucasion!

I also have another petition ready for those who want to see all Negros and disabled scum nationwide fry! And also to see that America becomes a nation of Whites only! http://www.petitiononline.com/execute5118/pet...
Rebecca Wilson

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Dec 9, 2011
 
In addition, all people need to be immediately institutionalized, at least in a nursing home, no later than their 65th birthday. And if they refuse to go, they need to be immediately arrested for trespassing and/or disorderly conduct, forcefully stripped of all posessions, and thrown in jail before the nursing home!

Too bad, sore losers, but that is the way of life. Survival of the fittest, and only the fittest!
ThomasA

Gadsden, AL

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Dec 9, 2011
 
Rebecca Wilson wrote:
In addition, all disabled piece of $h1t people need to be executed immediately! We are sick and tired of their filth, their horrible hygiene that can be smelled up to a mile away, their drooling on our floors that cause people to slip and fall, and especially some of them getting affectionate in public! Speaking of which, display of affection really needs to be criminalized nationwide and made a felony punishable by at least 50 years in prison. And especially those lethal and dangerous wild apes known as Negros (blacks) also need to be eradicated from our society! Before they turn America into an endless no-man's land! Mexicans and Asians also need to go. The only race that needs to be allowed to live in America is white/caucasion, and Only White and Caucasion!
I also have another petition ready for those who want to see all Negros and disabled scum nationwide fry! And also to see that America becomes a nation of Whites only! http://www.petitiononline.com/execute5118/pet...
Hey toad, you forgot that your posts show AOL instead of Birmingham.Better luck next time.
Patriot

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Dec 10, 2011
 
Rebecca Wilson wrote:
In addition, all disabled piece of $h1t people need to be executed immediately! We are sick and tired of their filth, their horrible hygiene that can be smelled up to a mile away, their drooling on our floors that cause people to slip and fall, and especially some of them getting affectionate in public! Speaking of which, display of affection really needs to be criminalized nationwide and made a felony punishable by at least 50 years in prison. And especially those lethal and dangerous wild apes known as Negros (blacks) also need to be eradicated from our society! Before they turn America into an endless no-man's land! Mexicans and Asians also need to go. The only race that needs to be allowed to live in America is white/caucasion, and Only White and Caucasion!
I also have another petition ready for those who want to see all Negros and disabled scum nationwide fry! And also to see that America becomes a nation of Whites only! http://www.petitiononline.com/execute5118/pet...
This is the most vile and evil thing I have ever read before! And especially your racism and prejudice against blacks! Rebecca, I am a white/Caucasion man and I actually danced with African American women before! I have hugged black women before, I had black women work with me before, once I met a really cute black babe that I wanted to take about a dozen pictures of and with! No wonder you support the evil Tea Party! Do us all a favor and go back to North Korea where scum like you belong!
Curious

Gadsden, AL

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Dec 10, 2011
 
Patriot wrote:
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This is the most vile and evil thing I have ever read before! And especially your racism and prejudice against blacks! Rebecca, I am a white/Caucasion man and I actually danced with African American women before! I have hugged black women before, I had black women work with me before, once I met a really cute black babe that I wanted to take about a dozen pictures of and with! No wonder you support the evil Tea Party! Do us all a favor and go back to North Korea where scum like you belong!
No self respecting member of the TEA Party would agree with this woman.

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