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Going Crazy in WV

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The Church of God Universal in Hagerstown MD are a bunch of cult loving freaks. They stole my inlaws and are forcing them to constantly call us tell us that we do not know the truth and are going to hell. If you tell them they are caught up in a cult they consider your words to be "persecution" which will give them a big giant pass strait to heaven. They also think they are perfect and without sin because of their so called religion. How can we fight these loony tunes and get my wifes parents back? The men use the Bible to abuse their women and keep them submissive. You would not believe what we have been through in our 20+ years of marriage. I told my father in law to stop calling my wife and feeding her this bullsh!* but he will not listen to me. I intend to strengthen my words in the near future and would love to hit him in the face with my fist. I work for the school system and I can not risk my job with a felony. Any advice would be great.

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Jul 8, 2012
 

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When I am elected president, there will only be one cult in America and that will be the Mormon cult!
JDS

Hagerstown, MD

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i met someone from that church who is freaking my friend out... telling her she has to quite her career to get married... help...
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[QUOTE who=" Any advice would be great.[/QUOTE]
Have you spoken with the Pastor of this church? He may be able to curb his new convert's enthusiasm.
If no help from the Pastor, I would screen all calls, delete their messages without listening, maybe change phone numbers. Speak to them only when you have the patience to deal with their baloney. It is a sad loss for you, but it is their choice.
JDS

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Feb 11, 2013
 

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Is this church a cult? I heard its a cult of old fashioned men whose wives cant wear makeup or jeans. and the women have to quite their jobs for the men... crazy church... any feedback is appreciated
God

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I am a member in NYC and this is the only church where I actually felt the presence of god the devil is a liar don't let people brainwash you they are legit real I hope you find the truth as well because it will set u free Amen
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Gc in WV..... stand your ground my friend.... you protect your wife at any means, you have a right to protect your home and family..... I lost a wife down in florida over this same thing..... her parents for years did the same to us, but they got to her...... don't let this happen.... doesn't mean you two have no faith, you have a right to believe in your own ways......

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I have heard the broadcast on shortwave radio since '03 and have recieved The Way of Truth magazine since June of '04. You may disagree with the doctrines taught and shared in the periodical, on the air. You may disagree with what is preached. But, the Church of God (Universal) cannot be considered as a cult because the doctrines are Christian. As with any Christian church or movement, there are are faults which will stand out to those who are looking for them. I myself agree with the holiness standards of dress and separation from worldliness. ALL Christian churches took this stand until WWII. I'm a member of a denomination. The Way of Truth is against denominational membership. But, I have never had anyone from their group chastising me, condemning me, or asking me to leave my denomination. Sometimes new converts have more zeal than wisdom. Sounds like that may be what has happened here. Anyway, many holiness churches, anabaptists (Mennonites, Amish, etc.), and Pentecostals have standards of dress and separation from worldliness. That doesn't make them cults. So the Church of God (Universal) is not a cult.
Muddy

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Apr 4, 2013
 
Going Crazy in WV wrote:
The Church of God Universal in Hagerstown MD are a bunch of cult loving freaks. They stole my inlaws and are forcing them to constantly call us tell us that we do not know the truth and are going to hell. If you tell them they are caught up in a cult they consider your words to be "persecution" which will give them a big giant pass strait to heaven. They also think they are perfect and without sin because of their so called religion. How can we fight these loony tunes and get my wifes parents back? The men use the Bible to abuse their women and keep them submissive. You would not believe what we have been through in our 20+ years of marriage. I told my father in law to stop calling my wife and feeding her this bullsh!* but he will not listen to me. I intend to strengthen my words in the near future and would love to hit him in the face with my fist. I work for the school system and I can not risk my job with a felony. Any advice would be great.
Sounds like most other religions....they right and everyone else wrong! Pretty sad that somone who wants to commit violence is in the "school system". You sound pretty intolerant too!
Been there

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Apr 7, 2013
 
Speaking as someone who has been involved with a cultish church in the past, believe me, the Church of God Univeral in Hagerstown is not a cult. Of course you may occasionally run into a member who is a bit more judgemental than maybe they should be, but that is everywhere. These people as a whole are some of the most gracious, loving people I have ever known, and it is a priviledge to know them. I encourage you to check them out, and try the spirits (as the bible says) for yourself prior to making a decision about them.

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Apr 8, 2013
 
Been there wrote:
Speaking as someone who has been involved with a cultish church in the past, believe me, the Church of God Univeral in Hagerstown is not a cult. Of course you may occasionally run into a member who is a bit more judgemental than maybe they should be, but that is everywhere. These people as a whole are some of the most gracious, loving people I have ever known, and it is a priviledge to know them. I encourage you to check them out, and try the spirits (as the bible says) for yourself prior to making a decision about them.
Well, as usually happens, one bad apple becomes the standard by which the rest of a group is judged. Reading thir periodical, listening to their radio broadcast, and checking their website, I see nothing cultic about them. You are so correct to say that you'll find members who are judgemental everywhere.
Martins Udegbunam

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Apr 9, 2013
 
Have you asked, why there are so many churches in our world today and crimes, wickedness increasing by the day. Their church may be old fashioned. But can you see Christ in their lifestyle? To me, I don't need the modern church, what I need is the real thing (salvation of my soul) Christ.
There is a freedom of worship. Don't infringe on their rights. They also have the right to preach their faith, you also have a right to preach yours! Let them be.
GM- Hag MD

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Jun 4, 2013
 
Definition of "cult" is religious practices considered abnormal or bizarre. Definitely NOT our church! We may be considered "old fashion" by today's standard but we're living the way the Bible tells us to. I challenge you to read a copy of the Way of Truth paper, compare it to what the Bible says & you'll find it lines up perfectly. No one in our church forces an individual to "constantly call someone & tell them they're wrong & they're going to hell". We pray for our unsaved loved ones - we don't upset them as described in the Shady Spring, WV email. I agree 100% with the "anonymous" email - they did a great job in their reply! As Frederick, Md said - "we are a loving caring people - check us out". I agree. To JDS, Hag.- you're wrong in saying your friend has to quit her career to get married - that is not taught in our church! If a wife has a baby & chooses to stay home & raise that lil one - that's her choice. That is not something forced on her by our church! We have wonderful Christian men in our church & they DO NOT abuse their wives. It's so sad lies are being spread. We're all going to stand before God someday & give an account of our life so we need to be careful of what we do & what we say! We need to pray for each other - not push each other down.
Pastor

Hagerstown, MD

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Jun 5, 2013
 
Since I do not know you nor your in-laws I am at a loss to know how I "stole them."
And since I do not know them nor know where they live, I could hardly be "forcing them to call you and tell you, you are going to hell."
Since I do not know you or your in-laws, I can be of no help in "getting them back." One thing I do know for sure, they are not in this congregation.
The husbands in this congregation do not use the Bible to abuse their wives! In fact I teach them to "love their wives, even as Christ loved the church, and gave himself for it" as the Apostle Paul teaches in Ephesians 5:25.
I do not know what you have been through in your 20+ years of marriage, but I do know no one in this congregation has added to your misery.
In regard to JDS who responded to your lies, he added one more. I have never told one lady in this congregation they had to quit their job to get married. We have a Christian Day School, with one exception the entire staff is made up of women, some of them are married--one of the married women is my wife. When one married lady in the congregation lost her job because an Ice Cream plant closed, I prayed with her that God would give her another one and He did.
Would you object if I prayed for you? Anyone who would like to hit his father-in-law in the face needs help!
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donald

Belle, WV

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Aug 30, 2013
 
I remember going too camp meeting here when I was very young like 12 for a week and had a great time. the church members took in the people who came too the meeting and the church feed us breakfast, lunch and dinner. it was the best time i ever had. wonder if they still have camp meeting. its not a cult. its old ways of living. but nothing wrong with it. look at Brittney spears way she acts or other people. so lay off of the church folks at lease they are in church on sundays where are you. at home complaining on facebook,
SISTER SARAHS NIECE

West Columbia, SC

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Sep 3, 2013
 
I actually went to their Church AND School (when it as known as TRUTH FOR YOUTH)1954 - 1964 (I was in K for 2 yrs because my Aunt was the teacher there & a sort of babysitter for me). I was SCARED into believing and never considered sending my children there. I'm SURE REV. A.A. Craig remembers me. His daughter Sharon and I were close friends. I am now in SC and in a Methodist Church that teaches LOVE. Yes, there is a HELL --BUT I will NOT go there because of the way I dress or wear my hair. I looked them up on the net and I see some things(the school's dress policy) NEVER change!
Been there

Hagerstown, MD

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Sep 15, 2013
 

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It has changed a lot since 1964. Back then they were much more fixated on controlling their parishioners - it's not that way now. Changes in the last 50 years include:
-they go to the doctor now
-they are less strict on dress and hair, especially in the other congregations (watch during camp meeting - people in other congregations especially)
-they are not as judgmental as before - as long as you do not flaunt your differences with them, they will not call you out on it - sort of a don't ask, don't tell policy on questionable subjects.
-caffeine and medications are now allowed
-they associate more easily with people from other churches with slightly different beliefs
-they use put video of services on the internet - a cult would not do this
SISTER SARAHS NIECE

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Sep 20, 2013
 
Been there wrote:
It has changed a lot since 1964. Back then they were much more fixated on controlling their parishioners - it's not that way now. Changes in the last 50 years include:
-they go to the doctor now
-they are less strict on dress and hair, especially in the other congregations (watch during camp meeting - people in other congregations especially)
-they are not as judgmental as before - as long as you do not flaunt your differences with them, they will not call you out on it - sort of a don't ask, don't tell policy on questionable subjects.
-caffeine and medications are now allowed
-they associate more easily with people from other churches with slightly different beliefs
-they use put video of services on the internet - a cult would not do this
I hope they no longer have their regular & infamous punishment of "spankings". Also, I hope the physical & sexual abuse has gone away. I've seen the dress code for the school and it hasn't changed much. I've been to the camp meetings & they were the ONLY places where you could be a Child with LESS fear - HOWEVER, it did require getting up at 5 AM & praying for an hour before breakfast! I believe the changes are only SUPERFICIAL so that they can receive funds & approvals from the state & school board. I looked at the web page & if you look into the eyes of those SMILING children you will see SADNESS. While I must admit I received a GREAT education which I appreciate - it was NOT worth the pain I've gone through the rest of my life. Of those I went to school with (a class was only about 8-12 kids) 2 committed suicide before they turned 21! I urge ANYONE considering this religion? to run for your life!
Been there

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Sep 24, 2013
 
-As to the rules at the school, spanking is no longer allowed, along with any kind of physical contact between an adult and a child. As to how to train a child in the home, whether to use spanking, I have never heard addressed (at least recently) by the ministers.
-As to the dress code for the school currently, the boys are required to wear long pants, and the girls must wear skirts (below the knee). I am not aware of any other dress requirement, except I think one teacher does make the students wear button-down tops.
-There is no requirement that early morning services must be attended. As to general service attendance, it is obvious that there is no requirement to attend services, because if you compare the Sunday morning crowd to the Sunday evening crowd, the Sunday evening crowd is often less than half the Sunday morning crowd, which likely would not have been tolerated many years ago.
It is apparent to me (from what has been posted here) that some bad things happened in this church and school in the past. This likely involved a small number of perpetrators that are likely dead now. To punish and berate the current church goers due to past happenings is not fair in my opinion. There are always bad people in any movement or organization and those people need to be called out and punished. If there are any bad people in this church or school (currently) I would appreciate it if you could call them out on it so I personally would know who I need to avoid.
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Pastor Craig (that your referred to) has been the pastor of our church since the middle 1970's. He has a spotless reputation! He preaches straight from the Bible & challenges us to read the scriptures for ourselves to see if he's preaching the truth (which he is)! So there is no reason to "run for your life" as you said in your posting! There are no "bad" people in our church or school - so there's no need to "avoid" any of us as was mentioned above. We are all very loving caring people who enjoy going to church & enjoy serving the Lord! You are not (& never have been) required to get up at 5 am & pray an hour before breakfast at our campmeetings - that is a choice - not a requirement. We do not receive funds or need approval from the state or school board since we are a private school funded by tuition & offerings from our church. Please do not make statements when you don't know what you're talking about. We have all made mistakes in our life - hopefully we've learned from them & are better people today because of what life has taught us. I attended that school from K thru 9th grade - as stated above I too got an excellent education & I was never mistreated. I pray God richly blesses each person writing or reading this website as we all need each others prayers to live a good Christian life.

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