Teen Challenge Exposed!
tjj

Holland, MI

#143 Dec 4, 2013
Wow, no graduates in 3 months, most students now from out of state.....It's finally catching up with them.
And always asking for money!!!!
Half the staff is is McClain family member....
Wonder why....
dumpster man

Lake Orion, MI

#144 Apr 26, 2014
let GOD BE TRUE and every man a liar all of us need to be true to jesus and a life lived in holiness truth and separate from the wicked sin sick world remember with what measure you judge the same judgment will be measured in full back to you. live in jesus not in self dump your sin and let jesus in!!!
tjj

Holland, MI

#145 May 5, 2014
I use the brain god gave me and the common sense.
tjj

Holland, MI

#146 May 6, 2014
Hey dumpster man, have you ever been to Teen Challenge?
sumchik

Chicago, IL

#147 May 6, 2014
Wow! I was looking for help for my bf and i DO UNDERSTAND CHRISTIAN CULTS. But, i was completely healed in my bedroom by Jesus when i was born again. Addiction is a spiritual problem! Trust me folks! Fasting and prayer, coupled w surrender to Christ and good counsel can free you from any addiction. My bf would totally fail in such structure as TC. ALTHO he needs to learn self discipline. Christ is the answer to addiction, but west mi TC, concerns me.
sumchik

Chicago, IL

#148 May 6, 2014
dumpster man wrote:
let GOD BE TRUE and every man a liar all of us need to be true to jesus and a life lived in holiness truth and separate from the wicked sin sick world remember with what measure you judge the same judgment will be measured in full back to you. live in jesus not in self dump your sin and let jesus in!!!
Agteed!
tjj

Holland, MI

#149 Jul 12, 2014
Time to move on.
Do your research before you go or send a love one there.
God's speed.
tjj

Holland, MI

#150 Sep 6, 2014
Bottom line. There is no freedom in Christ at Teen Challenge. They use you as a "sorry soul" to promote their program for donations. They use rallies and banquets at churches where the students with the best stories get invited to these functions so they can "share " stories and most are dramatically embellished. If a student dares to ask questions or does not worship, think, act in a manner they seem appropriate they will be taken to the bus station and left. DO NOT DONATE YOUR MONEY UNTIL YOU REALLY UNDERSTAND WHAT REALLY GOES ON THERE.
pop

Hattiesburg, MS

#151 Nov 25, 2014
Does anyone got an experience w Detroit womans Teen Challenge. I am totally a Christian, so intense Bible study is great. But do they work you to the bone and take all ur cash?
pop

Hattiesburg, MS

#152 Nov 25, 2014
sumchik wrote:
Wow! I was looking for help for my bf and i DO UNDERSTAND CHRISTIAN CULTS. But, i was completely healed in my bedroom by Jesus when i was born again. Addiction is a spiritual problem! Trust me folks! Fasting and prayer, coupled w surrender to Christ and good counsel can free you from any addiction. My bf would totally fail in such structure as TC. ALTHO he needs to learn self discipline. Christ is the answer to addiction, but west mi TC, concerns me.
I was healed by Christ in my bedroom too, yet fell back into deeper sin. IS THERE ANY GOOD TC ANYWHERE FOR AN OLDER LADY. IM 50. Love is the most important, i need love of true Christians.
pop

Hattiesburg, MS

#153 Nov 25, 2014
sumchik wrote:
Wow! I was looking for help for my bf and i DO UNDERSTAND CHRISTIAN CULTS. But, i was completely healed in my bedroom by Jesus when i was born again. Addiction is a spiritual problem! Trust me folks! Fasting and prayer, coupled w surrender to Christ and good counsel can free you from any addiction. My bf would totally fail in such structure as TC. ALTHO he needs to learn self discipline. Christ is the answer to addiction, but west mi TC, concerns me.
U sound like me- my bf would totally fail in structure!! But id fail if i found deceitfulness and lack of love. Or money grabbers. Like sum staff at a rehab in Pontiac.
Sam

Holland, MI

#154 Dec 3, 2014
It is not a rehab. You will not be given any tools at TC to help you stay sober once you leave.
Anyone can stay sober in a similar almost lock down facility like TC. The real test is when you go back to the real world, They will use you for their work duties and to go on their rallies in order to beg for money that they keep. If you question or disagree with anything they do or teach, they will drop you off at the bus station.
If you need a fanatical bible school to hide out for a year, not see your family for the first 4 months, cannot work to pay child support, then by all means go to TC>---Good Luck-You will need it.
pop

Hattiesburg, MS

#155 Dec 5, 2014
Sam wrote:
It is not a rehab. You will not be given any tools at TC to help you stay sober once you leave.
Anyone can stay sober in a similar almost lock down facility like TC. The real test is when you go back to the real world, They will use you for their work duties and to go on their rallies in order to beg for money that they keep. If you question or disagree with anything they do or teach, they will drop you off at the bus station.
If you need a fanatical bible school to hide out for a year, not see your family for the first 4 months, cannot work to pay child support, then by all means go to TC>r---Good Luck-You will need it.
Jesus is all an addict needs, then celebrate recovery and maybe Christian therapy. Ive been everywhere, seen so much. The only thing that works IS JESUS, dude. Thats why ppl don't like TC, its because they don't surrender to Christ. Altho im certain some of these folks are money-hungrey. David Wilkerson and Nicky Cruz were its beginnings- that was true TC. Now, sum r corrupt. Dont let a few bad apples spoil all of them.
Sam

Holland, MI

#156 Dec 7, 2014
Hey Pop
I went to WMTC so I am speaking from direct first hand experience about TC in Muskegon MI, nothing else. I am a christian and would never try to limit GOD or Christ, however WMTC exists for the benefit of the McClain family.
If anyone has direct question about WMTC, I would be happy to answer them the best I can.
Do you homework before goin to any rehab.
Robert

Holland, MI

#157 Jan 3, 2015
Called Teen Challenge In Muskegon and asked if any of their staff were trained in Substance Abuse Counseling. Could not get a straight answer. I asked what accreditations they had or State Approvals. Could not get a straight answer. Asked where their Pastors received their training and or education -Could not get a straight answer.
debbie

Lansing, MI

#158 Jan 31, 2015
I just had a question about some things but I cant seem to get any answers.
Robert

Holland, MI

#159 Feb 1, 2015
Hi Debbie
I went to TC what are your questions?
Robert

Holland, MI

#160 Feb 3, 2015
Wow, according to their current newsletter they had 2 graduates the last 2 months. Thats a 1-2% graduation rate, now take a 5-10% of that number for the ones who actually stay sober and you can see its less than 1%. Do you really think this is a wise use of our tax and your dollars.
Where is the accountability, where is the over sight. Where is the actual data on success rates?
And when I mean our tax dollars this is what I mean. They actively recruit "students" out of the court system. These are the best kind of students for them because if they get kicked out they go back to jail thus they have ultimate control over these folks, which our tax dollars support.
Dee

Charlotte, MI

#161 Mar 23, 2015
Carrie J wrote:
To Michael and K: You know TC is not just a program. It is a "Spiritual Boot Camp for "REAL SOLDIERS" in he army of the Lord. TC is, I like to call a training for reighning ground. I am so very sorry that you did not rely on the Word that has been taught to you. I am so sorry, that you worked the program and did not allow the program to "WORK FOR YOU" I am very sorry, you didn't appreciate the opportunity to spend quality time with the Lord.....without the cares of the world. To be honest you could not handle the Sanctification process. It is disappointing to know that you spent 11 months and couldn't allow the Gods Holy Spirit to help you apply all of that word that you recieved. I am a former graduate. I graduated 7 years ago and I Thank God for that Ministry. Don't you know that all things work together for the good for those who LOVE GOD and are called according to his purpose. Do you remember reading about the Israelites who spent 40 years in the wilderness? going in circles You know why? Because they DID NOT KNOW HOW TO PROCESS THE TRANSITION. Do you remember how when the people grumbled and complained against Moses in the wilderness? God caused and earth quake to swallow them up in the presence of the people. Keep YOUR MOUTH OFF OF TC. THAT IS GOD'S ANOINTED MINISTRY.... GOD'S NOT MAN! and I pray that maybe one day you will understand. May God heal all of your hurts, feelings and emotions in Jesus Name;-)
well said... people always want to blame someone else .... time to look at self
Robert

Holland, MI

#163 Mar 27, 2015
So McClain and company are asking for money for facilities again. Maybe he should sell his Florida vacaion home. Let me tell you where your money goes. A few years ago they needed a new steam heating system and boiler. They had a local contractor draw up the detailed plans and quote it. They then took those plans and had a student who had a heating/plumbing background do all the work for free. They told him it was part of his work duties and that God had brought him there to do this. He became so dissallusioned with them that he quit the program.
DO YOUR HOMEWORK BEFORE GIVING MONEY OR SENDING A LOVED ONE TO WEST MI TC.

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