911 tax in Menifee
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jungle jim

Booneville, KY

#1 Mar 24, 2008
what do you think about Joe and Stacy wanting to start a 911 taxing district in Menifee since this will raise your taxes
No Way

West Liberty, KY

#2 Mar 24, 2008
What? Tell us more Jim
yes way

West Liberty, KY

#4 Mar 24, 2008
they tried to get a board for 911 started at the last physical court meeting that would have made 911 a taxing district that could raise our taxes, this is a matter of record at the clerks office
Stacy Smallwood

Georgetown, KY

#6 Mar 25, 2008
Jim that is not exactly the truth. As you can see in other posts on here, there has been a big uproar with the dispatch center, Sheriff's office, and the Judge's office. What Joe and I tried to do was to change the current 911 advisory board to a full board that made it's own decisions and got out of the business of politics. I think that the dispatch center is way to valuable to Menifee County to be brought down this way. True it would have given the board the ability to ask for a tax increase, but 911 has sufficient funding, with a small annual allocation from the fiscal court to sustain itself. All of their annual budgets would have had to been approved by the fiscal court, this would have been the checks and balances with this system. The library, extension, fire, and soil and water conservation boards all have the same system so it's not like we would have just given 911 a blank check.

I know what has been accomplished in a relatively small amount of time in building up this dispatch center, and myself, I will not sit back and watch it be destroyed if I can help it. All I want is for the people to work together to continue to have one of the best dispatch centers in the state.

There have been some changes on the board, and at the dispatch center, I hope that these changes will correct the problems and bring everyone together, and unity back to our Emergency services. I am willing to give it a chance. If anyone has any questions on my position feel free to call me at home, my number is in the phone book. Thanks.
Grubby Halo

West Liberty, KY

#7 Mar 25, 2008
Stacy Smallwood wrote:
Jim that is not exactly the truth. As you can see in other posts on here, there has been a big uproar with the dispatch center, Sheriff's office, and the Judge's office. What Joe and I tried to do was to change the current 911 advisory board to a full board that made it's own decisions and got out of the business of politics. I think that the dispatch center is way to valuable to Menifee County to be brought down this way. True it would have given the board the ability to ask for a tax increase, but 911 has sufficient funding, with a small annual allocation from the fiscal court to sustain itself. All of their annual budgets would have had to been approved by the fiscal court, this would have been the checks and balances with this system. The library, extension, fire, and soil and water conservation boards all have the same system so it's not like we would have just given 911 a blank check.
I know what has been accomplished in a relatively small amount of time in building up this dispatch center, and myself, I will not sit back and watch it be destroyed if I can help it. All I want is for the people to work together to continue to have one of the best dispatch centers in the state.
There have been some changes on the board, and at the dispatch center, I hope that these changes will correct the problems and bring everyone together, and unity back to our Emergency services. I am willing to give it a chance. If anyone has any questions on my position feel free to call me at home, my number is in the phone book. Thanks.
I agree that the 911 center needs to be as far removed from politics as possible. There are too many unprofessional people here in Menifee County trying to run things they know very little or nothing about. I, too, support the 911 center 100%, and if it takes a few tax dollars to run it, so be it. We're all in this life together; united we stand, divided we fall.
interesting

Frenchburg, KY

#8 Mar 25, 2008
Are you referring to a 509 Board? Also, while I am posting, I would like to thank you Stacy for taking the time to comment and get the correct information out to the public. I do not envy your job as magistrate, but I appreciate all that you do.
pe te

Falcon, KY

#10 Mar 25, 2008
what would be the difrence in fiscal court and rodney and richard lori two political factors
subscriber

West Liberty, KY

#11 Mar 27, 2008
I read in the Menifee Messanger about this. Hey interesting, what is a 509 board, please explain... Seems like Mike Hall was the one who put a stop to this, becaue he abstained his vote both times, according to the paper.
rad----------

Campton, KY

#12 Mar 27, 2008
Mike Hall did not abstain on the no vote.
As for the other boards that have the power to tax they seem to raise the taxes every year. If yoy want the 911 board to have more money then why don' you donate part of ypur families monthly or weekly income. I do not wqnt to give mine.

Stacy, you were asked several times, by Judge Sexton and Bob Ross if this would be afull taxing boar and you answered that it would be modled after the Madison County board which is a full taxing board. If you are going to tell it tell it all.
Stacy Smallwood

Georgetown, KY

#13 Mar 28, 2008
rad---------- wrote:
Mike Hall did not abstain on the no vote.
As for the other boards that have the power to tax they seem to raise the taxes every year. If yoy want the 911 board to have more money then why don' you donate part of ypur families monthly or weekly income. I do not wqnt to give mine.
Stacy, you were asked several times, by Judge Sexton and Bob Ross if this would be afull taxing boar and you answered that it would be modled after the Madison County board which is a full taxing board. If you are going to tell it tell it all.
What do you mean if i'm going to tell it, tell it all. I think I was very plain in my post above, I said, and you can go back and read it if you like, That it would give the board the right to ask for a tax increase if needed, but that there are sufficient funds with the county's allocation to operate the dispatch center. I will agree that if the board goes hogwild and tries to buy everything coming and going then there would be a problem, but that is why the fiscal court would have the authority to reject a proposed budget that overspends and would cause a tax increase. If the costs of operating and maintaining the dispatch center increase faster than revenues, then yes, a tax increase may result, but the county would have to do the same thing, we couldn't just say it's too expensive, lets close it down or go back in time with the technology.

I understand people don't like or want more taxes, and I feel the same way. This motion was not made so that the citizens of Menifee County could pay more taxes, it was made in the hopes that it would unite the Emergency Services of Menifee County and provide the best possible 911 service to it's people.

Thanks again,
Stacy Smallwood
taxed out

Booneville, KY

#14 Mar 28, 2008
Iwould like to know if the 911 would be run by the sheriff dept.
subscriber

West Liberty, KY

#15 Mar 29, 2008
I re-read the Menifee Messanger, and it reads
"Old Business included 911 personnel and Board issues. The Court voted to make part-time dispatcher Shannon Noble full time. Other full time dispatchers are Sharon Patrick, Frances Back and Ramona Lawson. The Dispatch Center also has part-time dispatchers.

Judge Sexton advised that he attended the 911 Board meeting this past week and it is his receommendation that the present Board of five members should continue as is. The motion was made to this effect but ended in a tie vote with Sexton and Bob Ross in favor, and Joe Thomas and Stacy Smallwood against; Mike Hall refrained from voting.

Discussion occurred between Smallwood and 911 Board member Gary Wells, and between Sheriff Coffey and Judge Sexton.

Stacy Smallwood made the motion that a full board be set up whereby that board sets their own policies, and manages their own budget like the other taxing districts in the county. This full board would not be an advisory board like the present one, but would have the powers necessary to manage the 911 Dispatch Center. Magistrate Joe Thomas backed Smallwood in this proposed change in the 911 Board.

A vote was taken, with Smallwood and Joe Thomas voting for, and Sexton and Ross voting no. Mike Hall again refrained from voting, resulting in a second tie.

County Attorney Greg Hall was asked for his legal advice in how to handle this dilemma where both motions were tied."

I know everyone on this forum is capatiable of reading this in the Messanger, but I wanted to ask a few questions.
1. Stacy, can you be explain more details about the Madison County Board? Will the proposed board that you and Joe want to set up, sign the checks for dispatch, hire and fire, budget the money, etc. Just like the Sheriff's Department?
2. Rad--------- Are you saying what was printed in the paper is not true, in regards to Mike Hall's vote.
3. taxed out, I would hope 911 is ran by the Board, that is why they are the 911 Board. What are you meaning, about the sheriff dept running it?
4. Next my quesiton is for the paper or anyone at the meeting, what was the "discussion between Smallwood and 911 Board Member Gary Wells, and between Sheriff Coffey and Judge Sexton." Or was this just a polite way for the paper to print that this was just bad blood that got stirred up at the expence of Menifee County.

As a citizen of Menifee County I would like to see ALL emergency services work together, Emergency Management, Sheriff, Fire, EMS, Coroner, Jailer. Because I sure would hate to need these services and them not be a TEAM on an emergency. I hope that in that situation they leave their grudges behind and work as a TEAM!!

I hope Menifee County never experiences a major disaster, but if they do, I hope these officials can pull us through it.
few facts

West Liberty, KY

#16 Mar 29, 2008
Few facts to look at when comparing Menifee to Madison County POP 6788/79015 Median Income 22064/32861. Poverty Line 29.6%/16.8% eli for Medicare 30.3/14.7% No Med Ins 18.9%/13.1% LESS THAN high school education or Ged Men 43.7%/21.7%
Menifee county has hwy 460 and Job corp. Madison County has 2 colleges Berea and Eastern they have a police training fac and an Interstate HWY. I don't think we compare vey well as a tax base. PS the paper 2 weeks ago in Madison county DID NOT BRAG THAT THE DISPATCH WOULD NO LONGER BE MUTING FIRE AND EMS?
Kathleen Perry - Menifee

Booneville, KY

#17 Mar 29, 2008
I am sorry for the confusion caused by the error in the article on the past Fiscal Court meeting.
The 7th & 8th paragraph of that article should have said "A vote was taken, with Smallwood and Joe Thomas voting yes; and Sexton, Ross and Hall voting no. County Attorney Greg Hall was asked for his legal advice in how to handle this. The 911 Board consisting of Chairman Joe Back, Jason Stull, Garry Wells, Jennifer Rogers, and Richard Franklin will continue as is, with a review of their performance in three months."
And while I'm here may I say that if Menifee County lets Sheriff Coffey leave this county for other employment, we will be losing the best thing that's ever happened to us.
I retired from the Dispatch Office and 911 Coordinator after 12 years, and I can say without a doubt that we would'nt have the up-to-date Dispatch Center that we have today without Sheriff Rodney Coffey and former 911 Board Chairman Kevin Hale. I was there and I know we were fortunate to have these two very intelligent and knowledgeable men bring us into the 21st century.
Stacy Smallwood

Georgetown, KY

#18 Mar 31, 2008
Subscriber,
Yes the board would have done all of that. They would have had full control over how the dispatch was run.

Taxed out,
The day to day operation of the dispatch center would have been decided by the 911 board, not the fiscal court, or the Sheriff's Dept.

Few facts,
The proposal models the paperwork of Madison County, it has nothing at all to do with their demographics. The motion I made to change to a full board used the Madison County ordinance because it was one of the most recent and had already went through the Attorney Generals office for approval, not to try to model their taxing. By copying their ordinance we would have had to jump through alot fewer hurdles. If anyone would like to see a copy of the proposal I have it, just give me a call.

Thanks,
Stacy Smallwood
Questioning things

Frenchburg, KY

#21 Mar 31, 2008
Should you have been hired in the first place for this or any other county job since your husband is a magistrate? I think not. And are you claiming to have started 911 and the mapping of the program? I believe 911 was started several years ago by the man you attacked in your post. While you and Eric did a great deal of the mapping, much of it was incorrect and you did not do it to the specifications of the state which is why we did not benefit financially as we are now. This is a great place to post things, but unfortuanately so much of it is just untrue and many people use it as a place to self promote. Exhibit A is listed above.
Kathleen Perry - Menifee

Booneville, KY

#23 Mar 31, 2008
Debbie Mullins was hired to do a job. She did that job. She was paid for that job. In her own words she said she was told she was being let go because she didn't want to work 12 hour dispatching PLUS the addressing job. That's true. When I began the Coordinators job, I worked the 12 hour dispatcher position PLUS the addressing.
Previous to this, I had been helping Debbie on the addressing, so it wasn't something that I had no knowledge of. Besides it doesn't take a rocket scientist to do the job.

Debbie Mullins was thanked, along with others, in the newspaper for the good work they had done in getting the system up and running. All the information that Debbie turned in to Dispatch was entered into the system. It's still in the system. If an emergency unit can't find a location, that's another problem.

I stand by my statement that Coffey and Hale did a wonderful job in bringing our 911 Dispatch Center where it is today. And board members don't get paid for their work.

And that, my friends, is the way it happened.
Kathleen Perry - Menifee

Booneville, KY

#25 Mar 31, 2008
Thanks for the compliment. Enough said.
Wondering Eyes

West Liberty, KY

#26 Apr 1, 2008
So its true...two sides to Every Story!! Now sounds to me like Mullins got screwed!
GOBBLE GUT

Booneville, KY

#27 Apr 1, 2008
THE REASON THAT MENIFEE COUNTY IS STILL IN THE DARK AGES IS BECAUSE NO ONE WNAT TO HAVE TO PAY FOR ANY THING.
THE MENTALITY OF THE PEOPLE IS GIVE IT TO ME FREE AND WE WILL STILL COMPLAIN ABOUT IT.
MAYBE ALL THE CHECK DRAWERS SHOULD HAVE A LITTLE PORTION OF OUR TAX MONYS WITH HELD TO FUND THE 911 SYSTEM AND THEN ALL THE COMPLAINTS WOULD HAVE MERIT SINCE MOST OF THE PEOPLE COMPLAINING ARE ON THE DRAW.

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