The downside of addiction to gambling profits

Full story: The Indianapolis Star

Legislators must consider the real costs of expansion The addiction began as a seemingly benign venture 20 years ago.
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Trouble in Gotham

Evansville, IN

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Feb 10, 2008
 
Our State of Indiana was quick to jump at jobs and revenue for our state budget being dangled in front of them. You would think we would have at least a super State of Indiana Gambling Commission running things but, I was reminded Indiana is not high on being known as "progressive".

Since: Dec 06

Indianapolis

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Feb 10, 2008
 
These people who has a gambling problems is going to have that problem if we have legal gambling in this state or not.

Pull-taps has been here for many years now. All you had to do was know what place had them. I am talking about the 70's even.

We have many more Alcoholics, shall we ban alcohol?
larry jackson

Qingdao, China

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Feb 10, 2008
 
Surely you're not saying gambling didn't exist before?

I not only know better but the money never saw a state treaury.

To gamble is to gambol for many. Lets make our profit from it.
retired

Perry, MI

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#4
Feb 10, 2008
 
ALL lottery profits should go toward schools and nothing else! The build Indiana fund that is lottery profits should be dumped! Using that money to landscape Lilly's new building a few years ago to the tune of $500,000 is a joke and a waist of money. Lilly can well afford to landscape their our property's.

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Liam

Indianapolis, IN

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#5
Feb 10, 2008
 
This sounded more like a bible thumping Sunday sermon that an editorial. The phrase "succumbed to the temptation of state-sponsored gambling" might have been lifted from the pages of Elmer Gantry.

Churches can rail all they want about the "evils of gambling" but the State should stay out of it. Just straighten out the tax mess and fix the potholes - that should be more than enough to keep our lawmakers busy for a long time.
Sven

Chicago, IL

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Feb 10, 2008
 
"It was the beginning of a lucrative but destructive friendship, one that has ruined thousands of lives, rendered state government dependent on gaming revenues, and left lawmakers nearly incapable of stopping the steady expansion of gambling."---That statement is COMPLETELY false. PEOPLE ruin their lives...not gambling. Gambling is just the vice they chose to use. Legal or not, it would have happened. Irresponsibility is why this happens, not because a recreational activity is legal.

Plus, whose fault is it that the state is dependent on the revenues?

Lastly...what's wrong with an expansion in gambling? Oh yeah...less crime because of the lifting of arbitrary laws (that are unconstitutional in the first place).
Poppycock

Fort Wayne, IN

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Feb 10, 2008
 
The ultimate downside is that state gambling creates an unaccountable pool of money (as compared with property or sales tax) that corrupts the legislative process.
Amused

San Francisco, CA

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Feb 10, 2008
 
There are many many more families "ruined" by credit cards!
Greg

United States

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#9
Feb 10, 2008
 
Gambling revenues are nothing more than a tax on fools.
Jake Bickel

Indianapolis, IN

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Feb 10, 2008
 
It's for the children !!!
Do you hate the children ?
Sven

Chicago, IL

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Feb 10, 2008
 
Poppycock wrote:
The ultimate downside is that state gambling creates an unaccountable pool of money (as compared with property or sales tax) that corrupts the legislative process.
Is that a problem that gambling created? or government created...?
bubbaz

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Feb 10, 2008
 
DavidM wrote:
These people who has a gambling problems is going to have that problem if we have legal gambling in this state or not.
Pull-taps has been here for many years now. All you had to do was know what place had them. I am talking about the 70's even.
We have many more Alcoholics, shall we ban alcohol?
noooo, but I strongly urge you to check out AA. You have some kinda problem going on there. Whew. Maybe it would help if you didn't satisfy your internet addiction in the morning, and waited until you've recovered from last night.

We have many crackheads, shall we legalize crack? duh.

We have many pea shake houses, shall we legalize pea shake houses? duh squared.

We have many dinguses on the internet, shall we ban the internet?

"Why the continued rush to expand gambling?"

Because there's a gambling lobby, and they grease the politicians. The tavern lobby is greasing politicians for this pull-tab bill.

Can you anti-gobmint bubbaz say "corruption"?
dogthatbitmitch

Louisville, KY

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Feb 10, 2008
 
We need a casino in downtown Indianapolis next to the convention center and Lucas Oil stadium.
Sven

Chicago, IL

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Feb 10, 2008
 
bubbaz wrote:
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noooo, but I strongly urge you to check out AA. You have some kinda problem going on there. Whew. Maybe it would help if you didn't satisfy your internet addiction in the morning, and waited until you've recovered from last night.
We have many crackheads, shall we legalize crack? duh.
We have many pea shake houses, shall we legalize pea shake houses? duh squared.
We have many dinguses on the internet, shall we ban the internet?
"Why the continued rush to expand gambling?"
Because there's a gambling lobby, and they grease the politicians. The tavern lobby is greasing politicians for this pull-tab bill.
Can you anti-gobmint bubbaz say "corruption"?
...Use circular arguments, much?

Let me ask you...what is wrong with someone doing drugs (other than it's status of being illegal)?

What is wrong with pea-shake houses?(again, taking away their current status of being illegal)
I remember when

Decatur, IL

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Feb 10, 2008
 
Long on gloom and doom, short on facts. Whenever the subject of gambling comes up, here comes all the bankruptcies, broken marriages, etc., chicken little stories. Where's your support for these claims Star? Where's the proof of all these financial problems that are the direct result of gambling and only gambling?

I got news for you editors, until government decides to cut the bloat, ie: eliminate entire layers of government like the office of special interest, or the bureau of kiss another minority's a$$, then government will continue to need more money and gambling is a viable means.
doublehook

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Feb 10, 2008
 
Again I say no to this additional gaming proposal. None of the current gaming laws have reduced illegal gaming as seen in the "pea shake" raids and arrests. When money is added to the stakes of gaming for sport and is turned into business whether legal or illegal, people get hurt, killed and there is no gain. For the state and legislatures to condone by their positive vote and enactments, they are adding to the moral depletion within the state.
doublehook

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Feb 10, 2008
 
DavidM wrote:
These people who has a gambling problems is going to have that problem if we have legal gambling in this state or not.
Pull-taps has been here for many years now. All you had to do was know what place had them. I am talking about the 70's even.
We have many more Alcoholics, shall we ban alcohol?
No but we could go to ABC stores for alcohol and tobacco, computerize and monitor sales to those at risk with appropriate interventions. Also the legalization of the of gaming has not reduced illegal gaming but increased. No to pull tabs anywhere!
doublehook

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Feb 10, 2008
 
Amused wrote:
There are many many more families "ruined" by credit cards!
Yes agree but that increased plastic use for daily living can also happen due to more cash dollars spent gaming requiring plastic use to try to keep their heads above water. Addictions, whether alcohol, drugs, gaming, texting, shopping or others are still addictions and play havoc with lives and families. Just say no to this new possible addiction. It does not make a family or the state stronger, only weakens.
Sven

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Feb 10, 2008
 
doublehook wrote:
Again I say no to this additional gaming proposal. None of the current gaming laws have reduced illegal gaming as seen in the "pea shake" raids and arrests. When money is added to the stakes of gaming for sport and is turned into business whether legal or illegal, people get hurt, killed and there is no gain. For the state and legislatures to condone by their positive vote and enactments, they are adding to the moral depletion within the state.
People get killed driving to work. Maybe we should all have to have stay at home jobs...

Moral depletion, huh? Whose morals? Yours? Why are your's better/of greater value than mine?

Again, as I asked above, what is wrong with pea-shake houses (other than their current status of being illegal)?
James_A_Ritchie

Independence, KY

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Feb 10, 2008
 
Legislators want money, and they care not where it comes from, or who it harms. Simple as that. The excuse is always "You'll lose services if we don't do this or don't do that."

But it isn't really the fault of legislators, it's the vote of voters. We allow gambling, we allow over-taxation, we allow wild spending and pork barrel projects. We allow legislators to spend money as if it belonged to them.

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