Governor should just say no to more gambling

Full story: The Indianapolis Star

Our position: The governor should make clear he won't allow another expansion of gambling on his watch.
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Crow

Hoboken, NJ

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#43
Feb 6, 2008
 
soupcan wrote:
<quoted text>RIGHT-ON!!!!
Ya, lets get them churches who just waste thier money on feeding and clothing the homeless. Lets nail those self centered SOB's for caring for thier brother man. Lets lop all churches in the same category and blame them for all our woes..higher taxes, not allowing us to get our drink on during Sundays, forcing us to ...gasp...have some family time. Lets accuse all churches...just because a few are anti gay....of being bigots. Churches killed Kenedy and caused probes to be lost at Mars. ITs all the churches fault.

LETS TAKE NO INDIVIDUAL REPSONSIBLITY FOR OUR OWN ACTIONS.

By the way, I could care less if Gambling is legalized and we have casinos. I have enough self control not go and spend away my life, or not go at all.

Last note...churches are made of people...people that vote....dont blame it on the churches...accept that there are people that just dont share your point of view.

Crow
Angry Mob

New Palestine, IN

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#44
Feb 6, 2008
 
The politicians should not be seeking new tax revenue sources like expanded gambling or sales tax increases to offset the public's demand for property tax relief.

They should be passing the bipartisan Kernan Shepard Commission recommendations that reduces the cost of delivering government services by $422 Million through the elimination of 1,155 duplicate units of government and 5,171 elected officials.

http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article...

http://www.indianachamber.com/propertytax/eff...
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New Palestine, IN

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#45
Feb 6, 2008
 
The gambling lobbyist trolls are busy today.

Same mantra of more gambling everywhere.
Steve Edwards

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#46
Feb 6, 2008
 
The Star always raged about the evils of gambling, but never acknowledges the good it has brought to the state. The Star assumes that everyone who buys a pull tab, bets on a horse or enters a casino is a gambling addict (and there are some for sure, just like smoking, drinking, etc.) Never the good is mentioned. Rising Sun has a new senior center, YMCA, day care facilities, refurnished downtown, riverfront park, etc. French Lick and West Baden were dying on the vine. Had it not been for Bill and Gayle Cook and the casino, both historic hotels would be gone along with hundreds of jobs. Instead there are new town halls, streets and sewers, a new hotel and water park, golf course, funded community foundations and much more. In short, people will gamble in other states or with a bookie. The State of Indiana has a very good handle on gambling and runs it well. The economic and, yes, social good can't be denied if the Star editorial staff would just look around.
Dude

Detroit, MI

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#47
Feb 6, 2008
 
Not Lacy Johnson wrote:
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Yes, and the government should do everything possible to encourage you to gamble, drink, and smoke just because they can make money off it.
Once again, the behavior-police have it all screwed up and imply we are suggesting something as ridiculous as this statement above. We don't want the government to encourage gambling anymore than we want them to restrict it. As crazy as it seems, the government doesn't HAVE to be involved in every little aspect of your life.
Bill

Beech Grove, IN

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#48
Feb 6, 2008
 
Let people gamble if they want to, I bet those who oppose it has never been in a bar anyway, so why are you againt it. No matter what there are people who will gamble whether its legal or not. I don,t think they should sell newspapers on Sunday thats a day of rest and being with your family not being at work for they can make more money for thier boss. Churches shouldn,t be taking money from people that needs it to feed thier family and buy clothes , what are they thinking. OH its because they want your money instead of you giving it to someone else. I say the chuches should pay taxes just like everyone else. maybe they won,t go around buying up all the land and housing to make a profit.
views

Indianapolis, IN

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#49
Feb 6, 2008
 
it's scary that our newspaper is run by such outdated, extremely conservative views. Indiana needs to expand, and the news media here needs to understand that the citizens of this state are not all like them. Seems very narrow minded, and stuffy. Very embarrassing.
Adam

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#50
Feb 6, 2008
 
The funny thing is that if you read these blogs very often, those narrow minded, stuffy conservative Hoosiers always complain about the Star's far left stances. Looks to me like if what the Star prints is not in your views, whatever they may be, then the Star is automatically pandering to "the other side."
views wrote:
it's scary that our newspaper is run by such outdated, extremely conservative views. Indiana needs to expand, and the news media here needs to understand that the citizens of this state are not all like them. Seems very narrow minded, and stuffy. Very embarrassing.
Jerry

Indianapolis, IN

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#51
Feb 6, 2008
 
Indyeast wrote:
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I'm for a casino at Union Station!!
It would be great and bring in lots of money,plus the Super Bowl.
A truly horrible idea. We have enough problem with problem gamblers. The problem is made worse if you locate a casino in the largest population center in the state.
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#52
Feb 6, 2008
 
Ben Franklin wrote:
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You obviously have no idea of the history of the Blue Laws in Indiana.
Again, what church is it?
Ken

Indianapolis, IN

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#53
Feb 6, 2008
 
I agree. Gambling destroys lives. Whether you're addicted to it or not, it is a dishonest attempt by the perveyor to get money from people for nothing and for gamblers to make money for doing nothing.

The negative consequences of a gambling culture outweigh the benefits, if any exist.

As for you shouting for "freedom," you would do well to remember that in many bad things (drinking, gambling, abortion) you are legally free to do whatever you want, but you are almost never free to choose the consequences of those choices.

Choosing the right action should be your mantra, not choice alone.
Kenny Mobley

Bloomington, IN

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#54
Feb 6, 2008
 
The Star obviously doesn't understand the burden put on bars by our government,taxes, licenses,constant scrutiny,competition by clubs,no competition to our distributors. This bill would make us more competitive help us cover our expenses and at the very least provide more income to the stste.
zachery cummings

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#55
Feb 6, 2008
 
After reading this article I have one thing to say for those of you who do not wish for gambling in this state "YOU PAY THE TAXES" gambling is legal and helps out in many ways dont always be one sided there are pros and cons to everything!
TVS

Indianapolis, IN

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#56
Feb 6, 2008
 
Will the Star be consistent, and refuse to take advertising from casinos?
Jack

Carmel, IN

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#57
Feb 6, 2008
 
Patriot wrote:
Stop crying like some littel child! Gambling is not evil its just another name for revenue! If Indiana was such a bible dependent state it could have alot more business here and alot more revenue! This state is so backwards,you can't buy a car on Sunday or carryout liquor, you know why? because the Churches want you in Church giving them money! I say tax the Church system in this country and let them pay their fair share! I would be willing to bet if you would have turned Union Station into several Casinos we would have had the suprebowl bid won hands down!
Oh that's why I can't buy a car or a drink on Sunday. Finally a reason is given.
Dude

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#58
Feb 6, 2008
 
Ken wrote:
Whether you're addicted to it or not, it is a dishonest attempt by the perveyor to get money from people for nothing and for gamblers to make money for doing nothing.
What, exactly, is dishonest about it?

“Blessed are the Peacemakers...”

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#59
Feb 6, 2008
 
Personally, I don't see the attraction to gambling. To me, it's a waste of my hard earned money. But if you want to put an end to property taxes, turn Indianapolis into the midwest Vegas. Casinos downtown. Lots and lots of casinos. This will also take a serious bite out of the local crime rate. Do you think the mob will stand still for all these low-life crooks cutting into and terrorizing their cash flow? They will run these small time criminals and gangsters out once and for all. People afraid to venture downtown to spend their money would mean lower revenues. They wouldn't stand still for it. If you want to clean up this town...legalize gambling. Invite the big casinos to town. There will always be crime here...it might as well be a better class of criminals. Oh...and to the churches. You don't pay taxes. You have no say in the matter. The taxpayers do.
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#60
Feb 6, 2008
 
Ken wrote:
I agree. Gambling destroys lives. Whether you're addicted to it or not, it is a dishonest attempt by the perveyor to get money from people for nothing and for gamblers to make money for doing nothing.
The negative consequences of a gambling culture outweigh the benefits, if any exist.
As for you shouting for "freedom," you would do well to remember that in many bad things (drinking, gambling, abortion) you are legally free to do whatever you want, but you are almost never free to choose the consequences of those choices.
Choosing the right action should be your mantra, not choice alone.
There's nothing dishonest about gambling. You pay your money and take your chance. To some people, it's fun. To others it, it isn't. It doesn't create or destroy anything. And what the heck does the term "gambling culture" even mean??
Crow

Hoboken, NJ

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#61
Feb 6, 2008
 
Someone wrote:
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There's nothing dishonest about gambling. You pay your money and take your chance. To some people, it's fun. To others it, it isn't. It doesn't create or destroy anything. And what the heck does the term "gambling culture" even mean??
I have to agree. I am a christian church going right wing yahoo but I really don't seen an issue with Casino's. I can understand someone might not wanting it in their back yard, but I don't see it any more prevasive horse racing, playing cards with friends, or going to a wine, cheese, and art party. You are paying for the "atmosphere" and for the little time "to get away from it all". If you chose to go fine, if you don't fine. I only see benefits. Jobs, revenue for the state, etc...

Crow

Since: Dec 06

Indianapolis

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#62
Feb 6, 2008
 
Dude wrote:
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We should enforce our laws. The problem is that a law shouldn't exist unless it is protecting one of your rights as a citizen. Any laws that don't do anything more than control the behavior of a citizen who isn't violating the rights of another is an unjust law and should be repealed. If I am playing cards with a few friends, nobody's rights are being violated. It's none of your business and it's none of the government's business.
Where do you live? I have an old moble home that is about 30 years old and I am looking for a lot to put it on. I know a family that has 5 kids that want to move into it. Hey its not the goverments business about zoning laws.:)

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