Governor should just say no to more g...

Governor should just say no to more gambling

There are 69 comments on the The Indianapolis Star story from Feb 5, 2008, titled Governor should just say no to more gambling. In it, The Indianapolis Star reports that:

Our position: The governor should make clear he won't allow another expansion of gambling on his watch.

Join the discussion below, or Read more at The Indianapolis Star.

Not Senator Delph

Indianapolis, IN

#23 Feb 6, 2008
Someone wrote:
If people want to gamble, let them gamble. What's the big deal? If you are going to restrict someone's freedom you better have a darn good reason.
Your right. Why do we enforce any of our laws. The rule of law means nothing.
JanetM

Union, KY

#24 Feb 6, 2008
troschne wrote:
So--just so I am clear--as the Star would have it, we would close down the casinos, eliminating hundreds, if not thousands, of jobs, not to mention the revenue these establishments generate to the localities in which they are located, and not make money from the pull-tabs, which will still exist, no matter whether they are legal or not. I am all for a cap on property tax, but the money to fund law/fire/EMT respondors (not to mention everything else that property tax funds) has to come from someplace. PLEASE--get a grip, Star Editorial Board. Come back down from your soap box and look at the REAL WORLD.
The story didn't say that! All it said was that there was hope that the Governor would oppose any additional expansion of gambling in the State. It did not say anything about putting anyone out of work and again advocated no expansion of any type of gambling.
Ray

Fairfield, OH

#25 Feb 6, 2008
Thank you Star for your stance against the expansion of gambling with pull tabs in bars and restaurants by asking Governor Daniels to veto any legislation that expands legalized gambling in Indiana. Enough is enough. How many families does the gambling industry have to ruin before legislators get the message that gambling is a menace to society and bad public policy.
Daily Reader

Indianapolis, IN

#26 Feb 6, 2008
Aren't Senator Robert Meeks, R-LaGrange and Senate President Pro Tempore David Long trying to get a casino in their region?
Who cares

Indianapolis, IN

#27 Feb 6, 2008
Let it be.... If you do not like gambling then don't. If others wish to gamble, then that is there business. People in this country need to remember it is the land of the free. The more we ask the government to restrict things, the less freedoms we will have. Worry about your own, and stop infringing on the rights of others.
Question

Indianapolis, IN

#28 Feb 6, 2008
I thought Senator David Long R- Fort Wayne was the leader in pushing for the crack down on illegal gambling last session.

What has changed?
Dude

Bloomfield Hills, MI

#29 Feb 6, 2008
Funny how the people who love to control everyone are so alarmed because one expansion leads to another which leads to another... They scream about the "slippery slope" and how this expansion must be stopped.

Yet, when a lot of the very same people support stripping property owners of their property rights (smoking bans for example) they absolutely deny the validity of the "slippery slope" theory when they are told each ban will lead to another until freedom is a distant memory (it's already happening).
Someone

Burbank, CA

#30 Feb 6, 2008
Ray wrote:
Thank you Star for your stance against the expansion of gambling with pull tabs in bars and restaurants by asking Governor Daniels to veto any legislation that expands legalized gambling in Indiana. Enough is enough. How many families does the gambling industry have to ruin before legislators get the message that gambling is a menace to society and bad public policy.
The gambling industry hasn't ruined any families. People ruin themselves by throwing their money away, if that's their choice. It is not the state's job to babysit you.
Dude

Troy, MI

#31 Feb 6, 2008
Not Senator Delph wrote:
<quoted text>
Your right. Why do we enforce any of our laws. The rule of law means nothing.
We should enforce our laws. The problem is that a law shouldn't exist unless it is protecting one of your rights as a citizen. Any laws that don't do anything more than control the behavior of a citizen who isn't violating the rights of another is an unjust law and should be repealed. If I am playing cards with a few friends, nobody's rights are being violated. It's none of your business and it's none of the government's business.
Adam

Bridgeport, WV

#32 Feb 6, 2008
An editorial is meant to provide an opinion. The Star provides opinions in their editorials about different political issues, because those are the most important and pertinent issues facing our state. Sorry, if you want them to do editorial pieces on why they like blue skies or rainbows, write one yourself and submit it.
Action wrote:
They use their editorial space to LOBBY!! They should be ashamed. I wonder if they report how much they spend in this fashion to influence public policy....
Dude

Troy, MI

#33 Feb 6, 2008
Burt wrote:
...and texas holdem houses at the bars and taverns.
Most of the Texas Hold 'em that takes place in bars is NOT gambling. It is just people playing cards for prize money furnished by the bar. It's free to play. Do you want to outlaw playing cards now too?
Dude

Troy, MI

#34 Feb 6, 2008
Someone wrote:
<quoted text>
The gambling industry hasn't ruined any families. People ruin themselves by throwing their money away, if that's their choice. It is not the state's job to babysit you.
It's too bad there are so few of us who realize that we are responsible for the choices we make.
Not Eric Miller

Indianapolis, IN

#35 Feb 6, 2008
Dude wrote:
<quoted text>
We should enforce our laws. The problem is that a law shouldn't exist unless it is protecting one of your rights as a citizen. Any laws that don't do anything more than control the behavior of a citizen who isn't violating the rights of another is an unjust law and should be repealed. If I am playing cards with a few friends, nobody's rights are being violated. It's none of your business and it's none of the government's business.
So of like the government getting into our bedrooms and dictating moral values on the decision to have children or how you have sex?
Not Lacy Johnson

Indianapolis, IN

#36 Feb 6, 2008
Someone wrote:
<quoted text>
The gambling industry hasn't ruined any families. People ruin themselves by throwing their money away, if that's their choice. It is not the state's job to babysit you.
Yes, and the government should do everything possible to encourage you to gamble, drink, and smoke just because they can make money off it.
Scott

Cambridge, MA

#37 Feb 6, 2008
This is no big deal, so stoping making a big deal out of it! 85% of taverns currently sell pull tabs right now, you may as well make it legal so Uncle Sam can get his 20% in taxes, just like everything else. There should be no limit on gaming in our State. I would welcome a casino in every larger City. Maybe my taxes would lower substantially. Why would you appose gaming?? If you don't like/ agree with it, then simple don't frequent these establishments.
soupcan

Florence, KY

#38 Feb 6, 2008
Patriot wrote:
Stop crying like some littel child! Gambling is not evil its just another name for revenue! If Indiana was such a bible dependent state it could have alot more business here and alot more revenue! This state is so backwards,you can't buy a car on Sunday or carryout liquor, you know why? because the Churches want you in Church giving them money! I say tax the Church system in this country and let them pay their fair share! I would be willing to bet if you would have turned Union Station into several Casinos we would have had the suprebowl bid won hands down!
RIGHT-ON!!!!
R U NUTZ

Fort Wayne, IN

#39 Feb 6, 2008
this lame editorial never even says WHY it's a bad idea...c'mon!

make the union station a high class casino

put slots everywhere people congregate
hire meter maid type to collect the funds.

IN need expansion NOT freeze
how else to make up tax rev's?

it's really no different than a users tax--those who do not want to gamble-won't and those who do, will anyway.

bring it on!
Old Dude

United States

#40 Feb 6, 2008
Voice in the wilderness wrote:
People are going to gamble in no less or greater numbers regardless of the legalities and certainly regardless of the sanctimonious opinion of the Indianapolis Star. I say expand these gambling venues so that the State of Indiana can get it's fair share of taxes from these activities. Whether the anti-gaming establishment likes it or not, gaming is a thriving industry in this country and Indiana ought to capitalize on this growing trend.
Correct! There are millions of dollars going into the surrounding states because of Indiana's back woods ideas.

Set your watches back 50 years, we are flying over Indiana now.
Local landlord

United States

#41 Feb 6, 2008
I support expansion of gambling to include Las Vegas style casino gambling in Marion County because I think we can use the revenue. Moral arguments against it are nonsensical. Indianapolis is not currently morally superior to Las Vegas. We can use the revenue.
doublehook

Fishers, IN

#42 Feb 6, 2008
Agree...NO more gambling...I don't want Indiana turned into the NY-NJ world. Being a midwesterner is good, we have pride, we have education, we have churches. We do not need gambling as a source of revenue when our taxes can't keep up. We need less government as better government. We need the return to basics of family as service to all and not 'the family' as kingpins! NO to additional gambling, Indiana has enough. YES to the government reorg via the Kiernan-Shepard report, YES to TERM LIMITS, YES to Property Tax problem resolution as none and YES to Strict Lobbyist Control and reporting. The taxation of the prime single family home should not be a burden for life.

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