Will U.S. sex ruling against Jehovah'...

Will U.S. sex ruling against Jehovah's Witnesses spark Canadian cases?

There are 59 comments on the The Hamilton Spectator story from Jul 3, 2012, titled Will U.S. sex ruling against Jehovah's Witnesses spark Canadian cases?. In it, The Hamilton Spectator reports that:

Candace Conti says the abuse began when she was 9 years old, distributing Bibles door to door with a fellow churchgoer, a loud, hulking man named Jonathan Kendrick.

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Witness of Jehovah 2

UK

#21 Jul 4, 2012
dee lightful wrote:
<quoted text> You hit the nail on the head when you said if they only had more faith in the God of the bible instead of the WTGOD/GB. That is their problem, the lack of faith in the ability of the Holy Spirit to show them the truth of scriptures instead they rely on flip flopping men who obviously don't know what God says for God doesn't change yet the men JW's follow change doctrine like you change your socks. If the Holy Spirit was present they would see the lies and leave the org and replace it with the truth of scriptures alone.... That is where they should go.
The Watchtower gives people a more understanding of the bible, so people understand it better. We don't follow men or worldly governments, We follow Jesus, who was sent by Jehovah as a messenger to deliver his word and as a ranson to pay for our sin's
hMMMM

Farmington, UT

#22 Jul 4, 2012
unlisted wrote:
to makes the truth unknown... good morning. the reason why this is happening in the church- when the scandal originally broke, many Catholics went public. there were protests and many Catholics spoke out on national tv how disgusted they were. we all were. many of us spoke out to our priests in the parishes and voiced disgust. some of the things out into place are a book for all children and adults that speaks about no touching etc. e
Now this is something that is NOT happening in the jehovah's witness cult at all.
And that is the difference between a religion and a cult.
Jehovah's witnesses are NOT disgusted with the abuse of children of its members at all.
They are demanding no changes to protect children.
Catholic children are specifically told that Priests and nuns are not to touch them inappropriately.
Jehovah's witnesses cannot produce on ounce of evidence where children of JW are specifically told that a Jehovah's Witness minister or elder is not allowed to touch them inappropriately or what they should do if one does!
Hence, the over 20 million dollar judgement against the evil organization deliberately putting children in harms way "The Watchtower Bible and Tract Society"
Bravo!!
Johnny Gosch

Gwinn, MI

#23 Jul 4, 2012
hMMMMM wrote:
The public is learning the filthy underbelly of this cult.
Penn St/sex scandal The Washington Times, June 29, 1989 (Front page story ...
Jun 29, 1989 ... The June 29, 1989 issue of The Washington Times newspaper seen below was
gathered up and collected from news stands and newspaper ...

http://educate-yourself.org/tg/franklincoveru ...- 44k -

“the truth will set you free...”

Since: Nov 10

Texas City, TX

#24 Jul 4, 2012
hMMMM wrote:
<quoted text>
Oh but alice, they are and they are disgusted.
See journalists have educations, they are independent.
They don't let some "governing demons" tell them how to interpret the lawsuit.
They read it themselves and are educated on just how evil the jehovah's witness cult is.
Every child of a dimwitted jehovah's Witness sleeps a little safer because of Candace Conti's courage.
Who's read the case files and is disgusted? They couldn't possibly be disgusted with the honest testimony given by upstanding members of the congregation. A court of appeals has no legal recourse to line up with Candace Conti's perjury. A lower court's decision has little relevance in the grand scheme of things. On record, this woman had a felony rap sheet that included possession of narcotics, extortion and possession of stolen property. Now she could very well have perjury added to that list.
Witness of Jehovah 2

UK

#25 Jul 4, 2012
hMMMM wrote:
<quoted text>
Now this is something that is NOT happening in the jehovah's witness cult at all.
And that is the difference between a religion and a cult.
Jehovah's witnesses are NOT disgusted with the abuse of children of its members at all.
They are demanding no changes to protect children.
Catholic children are specifically told that Priests and nuns are not to touch them inappropriately.
Jehovah's witnesses cannot produce on ounce of evidence where children of JW are specifically told that a Jehovah's Witness minister or elder is not allowed to touch them inappropriately or what they should do if one does!
Hence, the over 20 million dollar judgement against the evil organization deliberately putting children in harms way "The Watchtower Bible and Tract Society"
Bravo!!
Jehovah's witnesses cannot produce on ounce of evidence where children of JW are specifically told that a Jehovah's Witness minister or elder is not allowed to touch them inappropriately or what they should do if one does!
Question..! how do you know this?
We dont have to be told because we already know are human being not to touch children. In the case of whats just happened EVERYONE is responsible for their OWN ACTION'S. Should ALL Jehovah's witnesses be targets of EVERYONE..?
hMMMM

Farmington, UT

#26 Jul 4, 2012
Witness of Jehovah 2 wrote:
<quoted text>
Jehovah's witnesses cannot produce on ounce of evidence where children of JW are specifically told that a Jehovah's Witness minister or elder is not allowed to touch them inappropriately or what they should do if one does!
Question..! how do you know this?
We dont have to be told because we already know are human being not to touch children.
Well thank you for backing up my point that the WBTS trains children of its idiotic members to be victims of Jehovah's Witness pedophiles.
There ARE jehovah's Witnesses that are pedophiles and the children of nitwit members like you and Alice NEED to be warned and protected.
Perverts.
Witness of Jehovah 2

UK

#27 Jul 4, 2012
hMMMM wrote:
<quoted text>
Well thank you for backing up my point that the WBTS trains children of its idiotic members to be victims of Jehovah's Witness pedophiles.
There ARE jehovah's Witnesses that are pedophiles and the children of nitwit members like you and Alice NEED to be warned and protected.
Perverts.
Protecting someone and not judging someone are two very different things.

I've not backed up anything you have said.....

This man HAS been JAILED and DISFELLOWSHIPED. Should all Jehovah's Witnesses be charged because one ONE man's misconduct..?
QUITTNER

Toronto, Canada

#28 Jul 4, 2012
12:19 pm, Wednesday, July 4, 2012:
RE: Will U.S. sex ruling against Jehovah's Witnesses spark Canadian cases?
Witness of Jehovah 2 wrote:
Should all Jehovah's Witnesses be charged because one ONE man's misconduct..?
..... Of course not! I have in the past posted that people should be treated as individuals, not have a label pinned on them and then getting treated per what their label says.
..... Do most of the JWs always do what they are supposed to do? And do they NOT do what they are NOT supposed to do? Are there sufficient incentives for them to be "good" persons always? Are they awake and do they watch their tower?
jace

Woodbridge, VA

#29 Jul 4, 2012
sidgi wrote:
<quoted text>
Fortunately, some countries allow civil redress, if the authorities are unable, or unwilling to prosecute. If, as is common in closed society religions, like JW's, Amish, Mennonite, etc., they try to handle things in house, those religions themselves can become liable to civil judgements, as was just proved in the recent Conti case.
sidgi
bingo!!!!!!
hMMMM

Farmington, UT

#30 Jul 4, 2012
Witness of Jehovah 2 wrote:
<quoted text>
Protecting someone and not judging someone are two very different things.
I've not backed up anything you have said.....
This man HAS been JAILED and DISFELLOWSHIPED. Should all Jehovah's Witnesses be charged because one ONE man's misconduct..?
The Jehovah's Witness minister repeatedly raped more than one child.
Jehovah's witness children were indoctrinated to always be a submissive sheep to that Jehovah's Witness minister pedophile!!

There is not one piece of Watchtower propaganda teaching children that a JEHOVAH'S WITNESS ELDER OR MINISTER MAY RAPE THEM!! That they should never be 'SUBMISSIVE SHEEP" when a JEHOVAH'S WITNESS touches them or talks to them in an inappropriate manner.
There is not one piece of Watchtower propaganda, telling children that if a JEHOVAH'S WITNESS ELDER OR MINISTER touches them inappropriately that they will be treated with respect and kindness by the kingdumb hall congregation, and that they will be believed!
NOT ONE!!
That is one reason that the hero Candace Conti was awarded millions!
The court wanted to send a message to the WBTS to start protecting children of dimwitted Jehovah's witnesses who are too sucky of parents to protect their own children!!!
Candace Conti's parents were "good" jehovah's witnesses and horrible parents, period!

Yes the court and jury found the WBTS partially responsible for the rape of a child BECAUSE of their policies which ENDANGER children

You just posted that jehovah's Witnesses do not rape children, and YES some do!!

You proved my point by posting your own idiotic, false comment!
Thanks!
dee lightful

Pelzer, SC

#31 Jul 4, 2012
Witness of Jehovah 2 wrote:
<quoted text>
The Watchtower gives people a more understanding of the bible, so people understand it better. We don't follow men or worldly governments, We follow Jesus, who was sent by Jehovah as a messenger to deliver his word and as a ranson to pay for our sin's
If you follow Jesus then why don't you listen to Him instead of the WT? How can the WT give understanding when that understanding is changed every couple of years to something else?and sometimes changed back to previous teachings ?
The WT is the opinion of fallible men who are wrong time after time with erroneous false teachings.
What does that say about JW's? It shows JW's follow men as they nod their heads with each flip flop of doctrine. It shows JW have no real beliefs of their own but the beliefs of others.
Johnny Gosch

Gwinn, MI

#32 Jul 4, 2012
Witness of Jehovah 2 wrote:
<quoted text>
Jehovah's witnesses cannot produce on ounce of evidence where children of JW are specifically told that a Jehovah's Witness minister or elder is not allowed to touch them inappropriately or what they should do if one does!
Question..! how do you know this?
We dont have to be told because we already know are human being not to touch children. In the case of whats just happened EVERYONE is responsible for their OWN ACTION'S. Should ALL Jehovah's witnesses be targets of EVERYONE..?
The Story of the CIA's "Finders" Abduction Operation
July 2005. One by one, the dots get connected. The same names keep popping
up and they are linked with the same activities over and over and over again ...

http://educate-yourself.org/cn/ciadrugsabusem... - 68k -
hMMMM

Farmington, UT

#33 Jul 4, 2012
dee lightful wrote:
<quoted text> If you follow Jesus then why don't you listen to Him instead of the WT? How can the WT give understanding when that understanding is changed every couple of years to something else?and sometimes changed back to previous teachings ?
The WT is the opinion of fallible men who are wrong time after time with erroneous false teachings.
What does that say about JW's? It shows JW's follow men as they nod their heads with each flip flop of doctrine. It shows JW have no real beliefs of their own but the beliefs of others.
They listen to their "charismatic leaders" who convince jehovah's witnesses that only THEY (the GB) have a direct link to "God"
Just like Charles Manson did, or David Koresh or Jim Jones.
NO different.
It is always the children of cult members who suffer the most.

Sad but true.
Johnny Gosch

Gwinn, MI

#34 Jul 4, 2012
The term “Christian Mafia” is what several Washington politicians have termed the major conspirators and it is not intended to debase Christians or infer that they are criminals . I will also use the term Nazi – not for shock value – but to properly tag the political affiliations of the early founders of the so-called “Christian” power cult called the Fellowship. The United States has experienced religious and cult hucksters throughout its history, from Cotton Mather and his Salem witch burners to Billy Sunday, Father Charles Coughlin, Charles Manson, Jim Jones, David Koresh, Marshall Applewhite, and others. But none have ever achieved the kind of power now possessed by a powerful and secretive group of conservative politicians and wealthy businessmen in the United States and abroad who are known among their adherents and friends as The Fellowship or The Family. The Fellowship and its predecessor organizations have used Jesus in the same way that McDonald’s uses golden arches and Coca Cola uses its stylized script lettering. Jesus is a logo and a slogan for the Fellowship. Jesus is used to justify the Fellowship’s access to the highest levels of government and business in the same way Santa Claus entices children into department stores and malls during the Christmas shopping season.

Fellowship archives maintained at the Billy Graham Center at Wheaton College in Illinois, Vereide, who immigrated from Norway in 1905, began an outreach ministry in Seattle in April 1935. But his religious outreach involved nothing more than pushing for an anti-Communist, anti-union, anti-Socialist, and pro-Nazi German political agenda. A loose organization and secrecy were paramount for Vereide. Fellowship archives state that Vereide wanted his movement to “carry out its objective through personal, trusting, informal, unpublicized contact between people.” Vereide’s establishment of his Prayer Breakfast Movement for anti-Socialist and anti-International Workers of the World (IWW or “Wobblies”) Seattle businessmen in 1935 coincided with the establishment of another pro-Nazi German organization in the United States, the German-American Bund. Vereide saw his prayer movement replacing labor unions. EXPOSÉ: THE “CHRISTIAN” MAFIA
The term “Christian Mafia” is what several Washington politicians have ......
Another troubled young man who was exposed to Christian evangelism but who ...

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Mart

Miami, FL

#36 Jul 5, 2012
Like the Jehovah's Witnesses DEMONS believe there is ONE God (Jehovah), but THEY ARE NOT saved (James 2:19).

Why? Because DEMONS have NEVER been born again (John 3:3-5).

Demons believe WITH THEIR MNDS in ONE God (are MONOTHEISTS) BUT THEIR HEARTS remain UNREGENERATE.

The same can be said about Jehovah's Witnesses.

All they have is RELIGION.

They LACK A PERSONAL, INTIMATE RELATIONSHIP WITH Jesus Christ the ONLY SAVIOR.

http://www.christconnection.net/id1.html

Since: Aug 09

Location hidden

#37 Jul 5, 2012
Mart wrote:
Like the Jehovah's Witnesses DEMONS believe there is ONE God (Jehovah), but THEY ARE NOT saved (James 2:19).
Why? Because DEMONS have NEVER been born again (John 3:3-5).
Demons believe WITH THEIR MNDS in ONE God (are MONOTHEISTS) BUT THEIR HEARTS remain UNREGENERATE.
The same can be said about Jehovah's Witnesses.
All they have is RELIGION.
They LACK A PERSONAL, INTIMATE RELATIONSHIP WITH Jesus Christ the ONLY SAVIOR.
http://www.christconnection.net/id1.html
False. This is the relationship Jehovah's Witnesses strive to have with the only-begotten Son of God - Jesus Christ!

(John 15:14). . .YOU are my friends if YOU do what I am commanding YOU. . .

“your life is great”

Since: Aug 09

you poop in clean water

#39 Jul 5, 2012
all religions are cults.
and every cult has "leaders" that hide the disgusting things their followers do.
dee lightful

Pelzer, SC

#41 Jul 5, 2012
Duh-boy wrote:
<quoted text>
False. This is the relationship Jehovah's Witnesses strive to have with the only-begotten Son of God - Jesus Christ!
(John 15:14). . .YOU are my friends if YOU do what I am commanding YOU. . .
The WT says Jesus Christ is not the mediator of the great crowd. If Jesus is not your mediator you have no relationship with Him. Your only relationship is with a group of men.You do what men tell you to do even when it contradicts Jesus.
mmm

Feilding, New Zealand

#42 Dec 23, 2012
all abuse is vile. but whats even more vile is people who spread slander when they dont know all the facts.
true facts...not made up ones in your head
think before you open your mouth!
kendoctor

Jiangshu, China

#43 Dec 24, 2012
That is where they should go. http://www.hqew.net

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