Man Slips off Cliff and Dies

Man Slips off Cliff and Dies

There are 98 comments on the CW11 St. Louis KPLR-TV story from Sep 3, 2007, titled Man Slips off Cliff and Dies. In it, CW11 St. Louis KPLR-TV reports that:

A 20-year-old is dead after hanging out with friends over the weekend at the Offsets or Mine LaMotte near Fredericktown. via CW11 St. Louis KPLR-TV

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Mikes Mom Number 2

United States

#81 Dec 19, 2008
Please DO think of me when The Offsets are closed down - I'll be the one doing the Happy Dance on the courthouse steps.

If as you say, "Take Responsibility for your Actions" is truly accurate in their situation, then you can blame me if you like. But we're not talking about the same thing here, now are we?

Merry Christmas Mike!
We'll love you forever,
We'll miss you for always!!

“ZOE LOVES YOU”

Since: Aug 08

Cape Girardeau, MO

#82 Dec 19, 2008
I hope you think back to that "happy dance" every time you hear of someone on the river drowning in a log jam or dying from jumping, since there will be a extra 300+ people on the rivers every weekend because of YOU and the FACT is that a trip to the offsets is SAFER than any float trip.
Mikes Mom Number 2

United States

#83 Dec 26, 2008
Let them go to the rivers....because there, they are supervised with at least some Conservationists and Law Enforcement. They will ticket/arrest them for unlawful drinking and any other STUPID things they will do. However your buddy at The Offsets does NOTHING and welcomes them with open arms and the all alcohol/drugs you want to bring in - regardless of your age - just make sure you have NO BOTTLES! BUT WAIT, sign here you 15yr old so your family can't hold me accountable when you hurt or kill yourself!
WHATEVER!

So I will do my happy dance and you keep lying to yourself and re-hashing the same dumb SH*T we have already covered here before that is not relevent to the senseless acts that happen at The Offsets!

“ZOE LOVES YOU”

Since: Aug 08

Cape Girardeau, MO

#84 Dec 26, 2008
Great! Like law enforcement and conservation agents don't have anything better to do! They aren't busy enough with these types of people on the weekends already?? They will also be plenty busy pulling all the extra drowning victims out of log jams...people who could have been at the offsets where there are no dangerous currents!

My BUDDY at the offsets? I've never met the guy and I have mentioned in my posts before that I think the guy is an irresponsible asshole and that he shouldn't allow alcohol but you like to IGNORE that when you RE-HASH the same dumb shit over and over!
As for the fifteen year olds signing the waiver...I have ALSO SAID BEFORE that they should be checking and copying ID's. But beyond that, when an underage, delinquent, punk-ass, lying kid SNEAKS ALCOHOL into the offsets, WHY DO YOU CONTINUE TO ONLY ONLY BLAME THE OWNERS? It's never the parents fault??? Or the adults who provide the alcohol??? Even if he did card eveyone going in AND ban alcohol, people would still use fake ID's and sneak in alcohol in soda bottles or whatever....So yes he has to use the waiver to protect himself from criminal behavior and people like you who have to blame someone else and(here is the same old shit) DON'T TAKE RESPOSIBILITY FOR THEIR OWN ACTIONS!!!!
Mikies Big Sis

United States

#85 Dec 27, 2008
My brother was not with us this Christmas it made for a sad day. Have you lost anyone at the off-set that you hold close to your heart? We are not blind people would sneak in; that is not what my brother did. The owner needs to be held accountable. The owner would have no problem letting your underage son or daughter in without you being with them. I'm not saying you would allow that. The owner could care less who child dies or gets hurt on his property. I understand you have a wonderful time their, but why would you want other families lose there son, daughter sister or brother? The owner should be responsible, why do you think he should not be held accountable?

“ZOE LOVES YOU”

Since: Aug 08

Cape Girardeau, MO

#86 Dec 27, 2008
Your brother did not sneak in and was not intoxicated, he had an ACCIDENT that could have been prevented if he had turned around and left. The fact is, he was probably having fun, he decided to go in and swim and walk around and for him to be up on the edge of a very large cliff he could have at least been thinking about jumping...either way he took the risk to be there for FUN and what happened to him could have happened to me A THOUSAND TIMES but as an adult I PUT MYSELF IN THAT SITUATION BY CHOICE!!! When you enter the offsets, not only do you sign a waiver, but you also must pass a HUGE sign that states the rules and the DANGERS of the offsets. I don't ever want to hear of anyone dying a tragic death-I work in a hospital and have direct contact with trauma victims. I see people die all the time from everything imaginable.
Its like when someone falls off their neighbors roof while helping them put up their christmas lights, and then they SUE THE NEIGHBOR FOR INJURIES when they MADE THE CHOICE TO GO UP THERE???? Do you think that's right???
No one forces ANYONE to go into the offsets.
Mikies Big Sis

Nashville, TN

#87 Jan 6, 2009
When they made the choice to help put up christmas lights and fell off, did they pay the home owner to get up their? Did he let them up their after paying underage? I think not! My brothers friends had to fish my brothers body out of the water. The owner staff would not help nor would they even turn the music off. They would have left my brothers body down their the hole day and not cared on bit.

“ZOE LOVES YOU”

Since: Aug 08

Cape Girardeau, MO

#88 Jan 8, 2009
Who cares if they paid or not? That's not the point! Sounds to me like you are saying that if the offsets was on public land and no admission was charged then YOU WOULDN'T HAVE ANYONE TO BLAME!!!???
And no, the asshole hicks working at the offsets ARE NOT TRAINED RESCUE PERSONEL and I can't imagine they would risk their own lives to help. Even trained rescue professionals could not go after your brother until the scene was "secured" and appropriate equipment was on the scene. Just ask any emt/paramedic/firefighter!
Jay

Nashville, TN

#89 Jan 11, 2009
The spring is right around the corner an the Off-sets will be opening again. Please partents keep your children away it is a very dangerous place.
With know one to assist in case of emergency, they do not care what happens on their property. All the owner is worried about is the almight $$.

Please keep your kids and love ones safe; STAY AWAY
Mikes Mom Number 2

United States

#90 Jan 30, 2009
GO CARDINALS!!

Wishing you were here to watch it.

We'll love you forever,
We'll miss you for always.
guest

Saint Louis, MO

#91 Feb 15, 2009
I'm sorry for eveyones loss. I live in fredericktown where the offsets are located and the only people who really go there are people from st.louis or different towns. Everyone who lives here knows how dangerous it is. City people need to quit coming down to the offsets thinking that it will be awesome and then its someone elses fault when they get hurt. Stop people from going to the off-sets will never happen, its a choice but better educating people can happen.
Jay

United States

#92 Aug 6, 2009
Has the Offset been busy this year? Does anyone know?
Reader x19

Fenton, MO

#93 Aug 6, 2009
guest wrote:
I'm sorry for eveyones loss. I live in fredericktown where the offsets are located and the only people who really go there are people from st.louis or different towns. Everyone who lives here knows how dangerous it is. City people need to quit coming down to the offsets thinking that it will be awesome and then its someone elses fault when they get hurt. Stop people from going to the off-sets will never happen, its a choice but better educating people can happen.
i been there a cuple times, im from st louis. i had a bunch of fun went i went. i sprained my ankle when a drunk lady jumped on my back wanting a pigy back ride. i didnt get mad, or blame it on anyone else.
Jay

Nashville, TN

#94 Aug 6, 2009
Should the drunk lady been around 65 ft cliffs, with no railing or properly trainded staff on hand?
turtlemason

Addison, IL

#95 Aug 6, 2009
bottom line the place is just an accident waiting to happen...again. Should it be closed, who am i to say. I do think that more precautions should be taken though. My heart goes out to all who have suffered or lost because of this place. The only light is maybe by talking about it here, you have saved someone else some pain.
Mikies Mom

Saint Louis, MO

#97 Aug 14, 2009
To Nick's sister reach me @ jek1021@gmail.com.

We will love you forever!
We will miss you for always!
Mikies mom

United States

#98 Aug 24, 2009
Lets Here are a FEW of the statistics Madison County has on file, of course this hasn't touched all them: We already know the DEATH count is incorrect.

Statistic from Incidents/Traffic Stops at Off-Sets
1997 - 2007 (May - September)

Speed Summons 13
Misdemeanor Possession of Controlled Sub 43
Minor in Possession of Alcohol 72
Supplying Alcohol to Minor 5
DWI 64
Possession of Drug Paraphernalia 50
No Valid Plates/Registration 9
Fail to Drive Right Half Roadway 62
Driving While Suspended/Revoked 49
Careless & Imprudent Driving 34
Fail To Yield to Emergency Vehicle 3
Warrant Arrests 11
Safekeeping/Peace Disturbance 3
Assault 13
Felony Assault 2
Property Damage 5
Tampering with Motor Vehicle 3
Leave the Scene of MVA 1
Motor Vehicle Accidents 2
Assault on Law Enforcement Officer 4
Resisting Arrest 2
Thefts 3
Armed Criminal Action 1
Littering 5
No Insurance 3
Missing Person 1
Deaths 6 review the stats from the Off-sets
Mikies mom

United States

#99 Aug 24, 2009
That does not include 2008 or 2009.

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