School districts turn down Tea Party

School districts turn down Tea Party

There are 21 comments on the Indian Hill Journal story from Sep 14, 2010, titled School districts turn down Tea Party. In it, Indian Hill Journal reports that:

Despite local tea party officials' offer to hand over their public stage here Monday evening so area school superintendents could pitch for more school taxes, none accepted the invite.

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Jack Mehoff

New Hope, PA

#1 Sep 14, 2010
Why would intelligent educated people want to subject themselves to abuse from these treasonous vermin?
Patriot Post

Alexandria, OH

#2 Sep 16, 2010
Hey Jack, the "vermin" are the superintendents and unions that keep asking for more and more of our dollars to support their inflated salaries and benefits. If you would use your brain, you would know that they only speak at meetings where they can guarantee that the audience is stacked with teachers and other pro-levy advocates. Ever notice that the people who head up the levy campaigns end up with nice scholarships and key positions on teams for their kids, cushy jobs in the district and if a business, lots of business directed their way. Check back on past levies.
It is a fact and you know it.

It is never for the children. Vote no on all levies. Wake up people.
Peanut

United States

#3 Sep 18, 2010
My problem with the schools is multi-faceted.
1) stop giving the superintendent a bonus if you have to fire him. I don't get one for doing a good job and he/she shouldn't get one for screwing up. This goes for business men too.
2)Let's start teaching and do away with no child left behind. Because it isn't preparing kids for life. We are trying to prove our kids all learn the same and we know they don't. So kids are left behind everyday.
3)Encourage vocational schools more. Not everyone wants or needs a college degree. Especially when a fair percentage of graduates never find a job in their degree field.
4)Let's go to year round education. There's less time needed to review every year and children might as well learn that there aren't jobs that will give them 5 months a year vacation. A child has a job. It is to go to school and learn. Increase the hours in school each year as they get older so that by the time they are 16 it's 8 hours a day even if it's 2 hours a day of study hall to get their homework done.
5)Consider educational contracts that will credit students with discounts for college or vocatinal schools for C grades or better. Give then incentives for the hope of further education.

Too many of our students feel that they will never be able to afford an education after high school. And if 1 in 5 students don't graduate from high school then they can't help their children achieve success in school. Maybe it's time to tie welfare to mandatory GED education. Because there is a cycle of poverty that tends to repeat itself. What we have tried so far isn't working.
Gerald

AOL

#4 Sep 23, 2010
Peanut, you are a real thinker and have some excellent ideas. Too bad the superintendents chickened out. They could have answered some of your very relevant questions.

The superintendents are controled by the union.
They both hate the taxpayers. The main reason is that we are beginning to hold them accountable for balancing the budget (without more money) and educating our children.

I, for one, believe that a "blue ribbon" on the schools is simply another scam to make people believe that the district is doing a good job.
Hear the refrain, "for oh so little money."
I just wonder what would be enough?

Teacher and administrators freely admit that they teach to the test. In other words they know what is on the test. One really doesn't have to speculate on just what they don't haave "time" to teach.
Peanut

United States

#5 Sep 23, 2010
We have a multilevel problem.
1) We have a town that values section 8 income more than they do working people. I'm not saying no one on section 8 works. But I'm saying we have an excess of low income workers in town. They don't pay as much in taxes as they receive.
2) The city manager's in this town are more interested in buying up homes and demolishing them than they are in helping people fix up their homes and improve the city. The sec. 8 homes do not meet city code but they don't go after them they go after the homeowner who is fighting to keep his home.
3) The dropout rate in town runs about 20%. From the time they enter school until they graduate 20% or more don't make it to graduation. If you don't have an education how can you value it for your children and how can you help them achieve a good education. Children in poverty don't do as well as children of the middle class.
4) How do we find a way to help those who are struggling every day to survive to thrive? We are failing the families and the children and the people in our community when families collapse under the pressures.
5) We have to find a better way to teach. Teaching to pass the standardized tests is not producing students who will succeed.
Look at the people who never graduated from high school or college in the country and have succeeded. Pick their brains, what worked for them? Look at the Greatest Generation. They took nothing and made radios in the POW camps. Or a camera, as oven. They weren't college educated but they had common sense and a way to see what could be. We have changed the way we teach too many times to count since they were in school. Many of them only had a junior high education but look what they accomplished. They were depression babies who grew up with less then what they had during the war. How do we teach that to the children of today so they can have a vision and succeed? We are failing them. I wish I had an answer. I don't. But I see a viscious circle of poverty, lack of education and more poverty.
Middletown is not the place it was even 20 years ago. I'm afraid that if we don't find a cure for what ails us we are terminal.
The Old Cold Warrior

Ashburn, VA

#6 Sep 24, 2010
Indeed, the English elite called our original tea party people treasonous. Do our Dimuhcrat Educrat PAC rats still teach pro-American history and pre-sixty-five civics?
democrat i am

Edinboro, PA

#7 Sep 24, 2010
Jack Mehoff wrote:
Why would intelligent educated people want to subject themselves to abuse from these treasonous vermin?
another fine example

jack is either a young person who owns no property so he doesn't property taxes...

i would love to see a head tax on everyone.. everyone pays the same tax.. this way if you want to have many kids you pay a head tax on each child..

this way they pay for their own children eduction..
Peanut

United States

#8 Sep 24, 2010
I'll bite. How do you collect a tax on a child that is born into poverty when the mother has nothing? On the one hand you have those who want every child conceived to be born. Then you have those who want to eliminate all social services like food stamps, government grants and section 8 housing etc. If a woman is pregnant and single who pays the tax? The mother who is raising the child or the father who doesn't pay support? Or vice versa? How do you tell someone you have to give up your child because you can't afford one? Or do you force her to have an abortion? And back on track with property tax- it's in the rent. Because everytime a tax goes up it's passed on. Doesn't matter whether it's a propety tax, improvement tax or whatever.
democrat i am

Edinboro, PA

#9 Sep 25, 2010
Peanut wrote:
I'll bite. How do you collect a tax on a child that is born into poverty when the mother has nothing? On the one hand you have those who want every child conceived to be born. Then you have those who want to eliminate all social services like food stamps, government grants and section 8 housing etc. If a woman is pregnant and single who pays the tax? The mother who is raising the child or the father who doesn't pay support? Or vice versa? How do you tell someone you have to give up your child because you can't afford one? Or do you force her to have an abortion? And back on track with property tax- it's in the rent. Because everytime a tax goes up it's passed on. Doesn't matter whether it's a propety tax, improvement tax or whatever.
first be responible for their action.. you should not bring children in this world if you can not afford tem..

why should property owner that has no kids pay for education.. because it the right thing to do..

i don't care if the head tax is a 100 dollars per child..

so a family that has a husband and wife and two kids that 400 dollars per family plus property tax...

this way a family will not have more than 2 kids.. some people have many kids because we give them a helping hand..

i know a family that has 10 kids and they get welfare and help from us tax payer.. they are expecting # 11 in 6 months... this is so wrong...

bad subject for my opionion
The Cold Warrior

United States

#10 Sep 26, 2010
The worst government/public-servant nightmare: Tea Party people in charge and the end of government large, wih budget cuts, regardless of whining media sluts.
Peanut

Wimberley, TX

#11 Sep 26, 2010
Sorry but that won't make them responsible. It still comes down to education. If you don't start teaching people to be responsible for what they do, and that birth control works, it won't make a difference. Instead of ignoring the issue of sex and teaching abstinence we need to teach students who to protect themselves. Protect themselves from poverty by having children they can't afford, from paying for children they aren't ready for. It's not just teenagers who are having children they can't afford. I'm all for responsible parenting and supporting your children. But we need to start educating them about the costs in their own lives and society before conception ever happens. The majority of people don't have more children than they can afford. But in this economy, many people now have children they can't afford but you can't send them back so they are trying to do the best they can. Then you have those who don't care if they can afford them or not because there is all the assistance available. I wish there was a cut dried answer to the problems of society.
The Cold Warrior

United States

#12 Sep 26, 2010
Like ya know, we've had about seven-trillion dollars "invested" in education and poverty and social-engineering programs, during the past 45 years; with thousands of TV and video shows, for those who can't or don't or won't look inside newspapers, magazines and books. Yet, they still make mistakes with babies and have regrets, even after the informative Internet.
Peanut

United States

#13 Sep 27, 2010
I think part of it is there is still incentive to have children on welfare and no disincentive. I think maybe it's time to look alternatives to the way the program is set up. Maybe if you have one child on welfare then have another one the benefits shouldn't go up. I don't know what the answer is. But at the very least there needs to be a contract with the recipient that makes them more responsible.
yes voter

Englewood, OH

#14 Sep 27, 2010
democrat i am wrote:
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another fine example
jack is either a young person who owns no property so he doesn't property taxes...
i would love to see a head tax on everyone.. everyone pays the same tax.. this way if you want to have many kids you pay a head tax on each child..
this way they pay for their own children eduction..
Ha ha ha..since you can't spell education, it just goes to show how much you lovely tea party folks don't know anything about it--no wonder you vote down levies. What a bunch of renegade yodels the tea parties attract...
The Duke of Hazard

United States

#15 Sep 28, 2010
Note that the only noble employment, with enjoyment, seems to be public service, unlike most folks who have to or want to make the disposable income/taxes that the public servants take...for the sake of the village chhhhiiiiillllldddrrrrennnn.
Peanut

United States

#16 Sep 28, 2010
Maybe one of the next solutions will be to grade parents as we do children and teachers. Then weight the results in regard to how our schools are actually doing. Let's face it, a school in the nicer parts of a community do better because in part the parents are better educated and more involved. If a school is judged on how many parents attend parent teacher meetings and are involved in their childs education then that should also reflect on how well the students do in the classroom. If teachers are graded on their effectiveness then perhaps it's time to do the same with parents.

“Voters elect Big Bird”

Since: Jan 07

Dump American Eagle

#17 Sep 28, 2010
The election of interested/concerned Tea Party members to your local school Boards will go a long way to insuring Superintendants do a better job of listening to what the public has top say as opposed to some union. While individual teachers may care about educating children,collectively,as a union they are concerned about pay/benefits. While there is certainly nothing wrong with ones own welfare at what point do taxpayers say that unions are busting the bank? It seems that teachers are saying their pay isn't reflective of society as a whole And while this may be true in some areas it isn't the rule. However,if you look at the BLOATED system packed with administrative positions that have nothing to do with educating kids you will see where the money goes. THAT is where you cut costs in education. Why,in this digital age are there SOOOO many secretaries,admin assts,ect....? Are Principles,Superintendants ect so inept they need that much assistance?
democrat i am

Edinboro, PA

#18 Sep 28, 2010
yes voter wrote:
<quoted text>
Ha ha ha..since you can't spell education, it just goes to show how much you lovely tea party folks don't know anything about it--no wonder you vote down levies. What a bunch of renegade yodels the tea parties attract...
when you work 12 to 16 hrs a day.. i wonder if you can spell butt wipe as you are..

that right you are a liberal who like to pick fun on other people..
The Duke of Hazard

United States

#19 Oct 1, 2010
What really makes public servants and PAC-rat Pentagon and Poverty Pimps frown, is finally realizing that the Tea Party people are serious about cutting their budgets or shutting them down.
Patriot Post

AOL

#20 Oct 3, 2010
We will shut then down and get back to reason people left every other country in the world to settle here. If we don't save the United States of America from the radical left there will be no place left to "go." Our freedom is being eaten away on a daily basis by the "progressives" that have taken over our government. We must not sit by and let them brainwash our children to the "one world" agenda. The only way they will accomplish is by putting a guilt trip on our children. Read their history books. They are teaching our children that we are a rotten country and must be changed. Most of us had enough of the "change." Just remember that the teacher's union is one of the biggest cogs in the communist agenda. Remember that they told us they would take us from within.

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