Castleton Mall is turned into a police state!

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“Liberal”

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#1 Mar 17, 2013
http://www.indystar.com/article/20130317/NEWS...

From the Star

Castleton Square Mall was teeming with more than shoppers on Saturday night, as a new mall policy to break up large groups of teens went into effect this weekend.

It was hard to walk more than a few minutes without seeing a city police officer or mall security guard. They were posted at mall entrances, outside of the larger stores and roaming all over and outside the Northeastside mall. The Indianapolis Metropolitan Police Department’s North District had its 7 p.m. roll call there.

The heightened presence of police and security followed an evening outburst of violence at Castleton on March 9. Police officials reported no violence by the time the mall closed Saturday night.

Mall owner Simon Property Group adopted a policy that doesn’t allow groups of more than four teenagers not accompanied by adults to be together at Castleton.

IMPD Chief Rick Hite, who was at the mall Saturday evening, and Castleton Square General Manager Robert Gorman reported that youth in larger groups were asked to break up into groups of four or fewer when they entered the mall.

Hite said the added visibility of officers usually is enough to keep any potential situations under control without having to remove youths from the mall.

Mall shopper Danielle Scott, Indianapolis, agrees with the need for more police presence.“It makes us feel more secure.”

Marcus Shobe, 23, Indianapolis, with whom she was shopping, echoed her feelings. But both were concerned about the potential for racial profiling.
Contradictions

Muncie, IN

#3 Mar 17, 2013
I bet shopping places behind the iron curtain looked just the same back in the day;guards everywhere.

When totalitarianism arrives in America,it won't be developed by the likes of Democrats or black presidents. It will come to fruition at the behest of those using safety and patriotism as an excuse.

As I've said before,It's funny and the following seemingly dichotomies and contradictions from those responding to fear are true:

T Bagger: "I want more freedoms,less taxes,more military spending for our government and I want my guns to keep the government in check because ya can't trust the government."

T Bagger: "We must cut Social Security to spend billions on defense. We need multimillion dollar military aircraft with all of the bells and whistles for our military."

T Bagger: "My 22cal. is gonna keep the government in check."

T Bagger: "I love America."

T Bagger: "You can't trust the US government."

T Bagger: "USA is number one!"

T Bagger: "I don't wanna pay a bunch of taxes."

T Bagger: I hate Communism and N Korea."

T Bagger: "I want armed guards everywhere in our malls,schools,shopping centers,arenas,etc."
Contradictions

Muncie, IN

#4 Mar 17, 2013
One thing is for certain,as much as the T Baggers claim to distrust the government.....They always look to the government to protect them from "them thar those black people"

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#5 Mar 17, 2013
its crazy
i grew up there
its just an example of the decline of morality in our society.
everything that we've known and loved have become corupted.

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#6 Mar 18, 2013
Contradictions wrote:
One thing is for certain,as much as the T Baggers claim to distrust the government.....They always look to the government to protect them from "them thar those black people"
Perhaps if some black teenagers didn't act like idiots everyplace they went, things would look a lot different at the mall.I am not saying that white teenagers don't do stupid stuff, but it rarely warrants security changes at more than one shopping center, and millions of dollars in overtime pay for the police. Those are facts that you can't argue with. If you do argue it, you are part of the problem.
Alonzo X

Indianapolis, IN

#7 Mar 18, 2013
AllAmerican1 wrote:
<quoted text>Perhaps if some black teenagers didn't act like idiots everyplace they went, things would look a lot different at the mall.I am not saying that white teenagers don't do stupid stuff, but it rarely warrants security changes at more than one shopping center, and millions of dollars in overtime pay for the police. Those are facts that you can't argue with. If you do argue it, you are part of the problem.
You are a racist dude

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#8 Mar 18, 2013
Alonzo X wrote:
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You are a racist dude
And you are Moe. But that's beside the point. If you think what I wrote is racist, you are proving my point. This is the classic example of, "If the shoe fits, wear it". There is nobody to blame for gangs of black teenagers causing trouble at the mall, except for the black teenagers that were causing trouble at the mall. If they were Chinese, the police would be watching Chinese kids, but they weren't. It is not profiling when the you focus your attention on who is most likely to cause a problem.
pissed shopper

Rushville, IN

#9 Mar 18, 2013
It is bad when you work hard everyday and finally get the chance to go to the mall to spend some of the money you worked for and you have to worry about getting harrassed, maybe shot during a bad drug deal or possibly get your car stolen by those young black ppl shown on the news that have nothing better to do than go to a mall and act like gangsters! I remember when Washington Square was a very nice mall until thugs ruined it.

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#10 Mar 18, 2013
pissed shopper wrote:
It is bad when you work hard everyday and finally get the chance to go to the mall to spend some of the money you worked for and you have to worry about getting harrassed, maybe shot during a bad drug deal or possibly get your car stolen by those young black ppl shown on the news that have nothing better to do than go to a mall and act like gangsters! I remember when Washington Square was a very nice mall until thugs ruined it.
The thugs are destroying the malls one by one. They roam in herds, moving from mall to mall. Leaving a path of destruction. Is limiting the groups to no more than four really going to help? It doesn't matter how you split the herd, they still will destroy everything in their path.
Ralph

Bloomingdale, IN

#11 Mar 18, 2013
ALL AM 1 wrote:
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And you are Moe. But that's beside the point. If you think what I wrote is racist, you are proving my point. This is the classic example of, "If the shoe fits, wear it". There is nobody to blame for gangs of black teenagers causing trouble at the mall, except for the black teenagers that were causing trouble at the mall. If they were Chinese, the police would be watching Chinese kids, but they weren't. It is not profiling when the you focus your attention on who is most likely to cause a problem.
My son, and his son were downtown this weekend for the motocross, and stated that there was a police presence, and just people having fun. Groups, individual's causing trouble, or attempting to intimidate should be profiled as troublemakers, and dealt with accordingly.
Ralph

Bloomingdale, IN

#12 Mar 18, 2013
Alonzo X wrote:
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You are a racist dude
Whatever floats your boat.

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#13 Mar 18, 2013
Ralph wrote:
<quoted text>Whatever floats your boat.
That "you're a racist" boat has too many holes to float.
Ralph

Bloomingdale, IN

#14 Mar 18, 2013
Duchess 29631 wrote:
<quoted text>The thugs are destroying the malls one by one. They roam in herds, moving from mall to mall. Leaving a path of destruction. Is limiting the groups to no more than four really going to help? It doesn't matter how you split the herd, they still will destroy everything in their path.
Dear Duchess, Everything I write gets a spam anyway, so this is spam. The Al Greens that was in Greenwood back in the day, was it owed by Al Green the singer? We did not spend much time on the south side, but if memory serves me it was on the west side of 31 south. Never went into it, wish now I had. Thanks
Ralph

Bloomingdale, IN

#15 Mar 18, 2013
ALL AM 1 wrote:
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That "you're a racist" boat has too many holes to float.
Well, the flightless bird that refers to others as racist all of the time overuses the word racist to a point that it becomes meaningless, at least to me. Apparently they are too dense to understand that disagreement doe's not equal racism. If they do believe that disagreement is racism, screw them, what ever they want to believe. It means nothing to me.(repeated so it might sink in)

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#16 Mar 18, 2013
Ralph wrote:
<quoted text>Dear Duchess, Everything I write gets a spam anyway, so this is spam. The Al Greens that was in Greenwood back in the day, was it owed by Al Green the singer? We did not spend much time on the south side, but if memory serves me it was on the west side of 31 south. Never went into it, wish now I had. Thanks
Was there an Al Green's in Greenwood?

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#17 Mar 18, 2013
Ralph wrote:
<quoted text> Well, the flightless bird that refers to others as racist all of the time overuses the word racist to a point that it becomes meaningless, at least to me. Apparently they are too dense to understand that disagreement doe's not equal racism. If they do believe that disagreement is racism, screw them, what ever they want to believe. It means nothing to me.(repeated so it might sink in)
When there is no argument, you are a racist. It is not only prevalent on here, but it is society's norm.

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#18 Mar 18, 2013
ALL AM 1 wrote:
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Was there an Al Green's in Greenwood?
I only recall the Al Green's on Washington Street, going there as a child with my parents. I am sorry I can't be much help as to one in Greenwood. You might be thinking of Mugs, which is near Madison and Main in Greenwood. It is still in operation and a gathering place for vintage car buffs!
Moe

Indianapolis, IN

#19 Mar 18, 2013
There was no Al Greens in Greenwood. I have hanged there for about 60 years.

You right wing nuts are showing your lack of intelligence.

Excess fat can cause brain damage. Stay on the treadmill you fat right wing fascists!

Since: Feb 10

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#20 Mar 18, 2013
online shopping will skyrocket in the next few months since this news story broke
no bookstores,
no borders
now no malls
its becoming a socialist,totalitarian socity
brave new world, animal farm,1984,etc
RainForest

Indianapolis, IN

#21 Mar 18, 2013

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