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Lebanon, KY

#1 May 4, 2010
Scioto County needs a methadon/Suboxin clinic.Preferrably in Wheelersburg,so it would be between Portsmouth,and Franklin Furnace.I really don't know why they don't have a Treatment center in Scioto County.That county's crime rate is sky high,beacause the drug problem due to Oxyconton abuse.How long is it going to go on before they realize they have all the answers right in front of them.Not unless all the big wiggs down town like to make money off sending people to prison over drug related crimes.Its a medical fact that drug addiction is a disease,and sending people to prison is not the cure for it.Thats just a tamporary fix for that one individual.I just wonder how long Scioto is gonna let their Comunities get worse and worse before they do some thing about it that will help tremendously.Quit watching our youth die from overdoses and do some thing about it.
I agree

Lebanon, KY

#2 May 4, 2010
Yea I agree with you on that one.Ashland K.y has a Methadone/Suboxone clinic,and Huntington W.V. has a methadone clinic.Their crime rate has droped alot in Ashland since 2 years ago when they opened that Clinic up.Thats where I'm from Ashland.I read the news paper every day,and the deaths due to overdoses has droped tremendously since they opened that new clinic up.Yea that is a good question.When is Scioto County going to open up a clinic for those people who really need help and can't get it.
Just fortoday

Ashland, KY

#3 May 4, 2010
We do need a treatment center, putting addicts in jail doesnt do anything, you have to treat the root cause:Addiction, its not a lack of moral fiber and it crosses all racial social and economic lines, but most people in recovery see Methadon and Suboxone as trading one addiction for another, having been addicted to opiates and near death i used Suboxone,AND went to meetings. If you take away the substance replace it with another substance but dont figure out how to stay clean, then when you get off Methadone or Suboxone(which is the goal)you are at a huge risk for relapse.Just my experience, not everyones, people can and do abuse these meds, the street value is through the roof since Oxys are harder to get and even more expensive, so they need tight control and monitoring. But no matter if you go cold turkey,take Suboxone, or go to a rehab, i wish them luck.
Whats up

Lebanon, KY

#4 May 4, 2010
Just fortoday wrote:
We do need a treatment center, putting addicts in jail doesnt do anything, you have to treat the root cause:Addiction, its not a lack of moral fiber and it crosses all racial social and economic lines, but most people in recovery see Methadon and Suboxone as trading one addiction for another, having been addicted to opiates and near death i used Suboxone,AND went to meetings. If you take away the substance replace it with another substance but dont figure out how to stay clean, then when you get off Methadone or Suboxone(which is the goal)you are at a huge risk for relapse.Just my experience, not everyones, people can and do abuse these meds, the street value is through the roof since Oxys are harder to get and even more expensive, so they need tight control and monitoring. But no matter if you go cold turkey,take Suboxone, or go to a rehab, i wish them luck.
Well I do agree with you on the monitoring part.I believe they shouldn't send people home with take home medicine untill they believe they earned that.Which should be after passing a few drug test,and attending their meetings.They should call them in for a medicine count or check to make sure their not selling it or giving it away.I believe that a treatment center would help if it was run right,and alot of it depends on the person too.Some people could be cured by the hand of GOD and would shoot a pill the next day.But just to say for the ones who really want off the Opiats Suboxone is a good step down from Oxies,and it does work.Alot of that depends on the person if they want it to work for them or not.But their is alot of people out their that can't afford to pay 750.00 dollars a month to see a doctor and pay for that medicine,but I'm sure they can come up with the money each day to pay for their medicine at a clinic.With counseling and a clinic that was ran right I know that it would be a good thing for Scioto County.
Concerned in the furnace

Lebanon, KY

#5 May 4, 2010
Methadone is not a good treatment but suboxone is a LIFE SAVER!! I know. methadone can be used to get high. suboxone has a blocker and you can not get high once it is in your system. People are looking for ways to get high on it though. I don't understand if you are on it to get clean why look for ways to get high just go back to your stupid drug of choice. Suboxoone has saved countless lives. Together with counseling you can get your life back in control!! They have made it harder to get Suboxone and Subutex. Oxys are every place. A doctor will give out oxys and other pain meds, but if you ask for Suboxone or Subutex they refuse saying I don't want to draw attention to myself. WHAT????? hopefully Suboxone and Subutex become more available than Pain killers!!!!!
Just for today

Ashland, KY

#6 May 4, 2010
Concerned in the furnace wrote:
Methadone is not a good treatment but suboxone is a LIFE SAVER!! I know. methadone can be used to get high. suboxone has a blocker and you can not get high once it is in your system. People are looking for ways to get high on it though. I don't understand if you are on it to get clean why look for ways to get high just go back to your stupid drug of choice. Suboxoone has saved countless lives. Together with counseling you can get your life back in control!! They have made it harder to get Suboxone and Subutex. Oxys are every place. A doctor will give out oxys and other pain meds, but if you ask for Suboxone or Subutex they refuse saying I don't want to draw attention to myself. WHAT????? hopefully Suboxone and Subutex become more available than Pain killers!!!!!
You can get high on Suboxone, ive seen people do it, the reason people go on Suboxone then try to get high and realpse you ask? Theyre addicts, who most likely dont know how to stay clean, hence meetings should be part of recovery. Doctors have to hold a special license to dispense Suboxone so not all docs CAN prescribe it, i worked with a doc that will prescribe it for no longer than 10 days, it shouldnt be a long term crutch, but when i took it he prescribed it for about 5 months(different doc), it is difficult to detox, it was more difficult to continue surviving the way i was. Im thankful for Suboxone it probably saved my life, but it can and is abused. Its unfortunate because sooo many people need help, but it isnt real easy to get except on the street.
I agree

Lebanon, KY

#7 May 4, 2010
Just for today wrote:
<quoted text>You can get high on Suboxone, ive seen people do it, the reason people go on Suboxone then try to get high and realpse you ask? Theyre addicts, who most likely dont know how to stay clean, hence meetings should be part of recovery. Doctors have to hold a special license to dispense Suboxone so not all docs CAN prescribe it, i worked with a doc that will prescribe it for no longer than 10 days, it shouldnt be a long term crutch, but when i took it he prescribed it for about 5 months(different doc), it is difficult to detox, it was more difficult to continue surviving the way i was. Im thankful for Suboxone it probably saved my life, but it can and is abused. Its unfortunate because sooo many people need help, but it isnt real easy to get except on the street.
I agree about Suboxone being a life saver.I know beacause I have been taking it for 2 years.It saved my life,and alot of other peoples lifes.Methadone has the same blocker in it as Suboxin.I know alot of people doesn't agree with Methadone treatment,but I have seen it save lifes too.I just wonder how long Scioto County is gonna suffer before they do some thing positive for their comunity.They can let numerous Pain Clinics open up and flood the city with Hill Billy Herion,but I think they wouldn't want a Treatment Center,beacause they make to much money off the Govt sending people to prison.And its true 90% of the people in jail is in their beacause a drug related crime.So like I say Scioto Couty needs a CLinic
Just for today

Ashland, KY

#8 May 4, 2010
Its unfortunate that Scioto County only has the Counseling Center, some really good dedicated people work there and some real pieces of crap,we need a place that does 30-60-90 day treatments, inpatient detox,as well as outpatient detox, a place that accepts people with or without insurance, but it probably aint gonna happen. If you go online to Suboxone then click find a doctor, you will get a pretty good idea of where you need to go for Suboxone treatment. Some take insurance, medical cards, and cash, but believe me its cheaper than an Oxy habit, or Lorcet, Percocet, whatever your drug of choice is.But please try meetings, it takes some time and a clear head to absorb what they are offering which is experience strength, hope and a new way of life free from mood and mind altering substances.If we could do this on our own, most of us would have, sometimes we need someone who has done all of the same bad things we have, and made it to the other side to coach us along, there is alot of shame and guilt associated with this disease, if we are just abstinate of the drugs nothing changes, we are who we were when we became addicted, the meetings help us recover and succeed. Good Luck to all!!
here in FF

United States

#9 May 4, 2010
i believe in rehab, once your that bad off that you need these medications you need to just put yourself in somewhere, its all drugs, its all a pain in the ass. People with cancer need pain medication, People who have pain, not ppl who fake it, I think that we should let the druggies who use go through the withdrawls, Its horrilble that people think "other drugs" help. Maybe for a brief moment, but really nothing works! Why help them, and i have experience in this area, family members and good friends are druggies, I just dont care anymore...done with helping.
Just for today

Ashland, KY

#10 May 4, 2010
here in FF wrote:
i believe in rehab, once your that bad off that you need these medications you need to just put yourself in somewhere, its all drugs, its all a pain in the ass. People with cancer need pain medication, People who have pain, not ppl who fake it, I think that we should let the druggies who use go through the withdrawls, Its horrilble that people think "other drugs" help. Maybe for a brief moment, but really nothing works! Why help them, and i have experience in this area, family members and good friends are druggies, I just dont care anymore...done with helping.
How would you have experience? Because youre pissed at someone in your family for being an addict?NICE!!! Let me tell you this, i had cancer took my medicine as prescribed, guess what, when my treatments were over, my body as addicted, i didnt snort, shoot up, sell or buy street drugs and in a matter of 8 weeks on a doctors prescription, i was hooked and had no idea how to get out of the hell i was in. So tell me, how did you help them? Or should we say enable? If you go through what i went through, then tell me how i SHOULD have gotten clean!!! If youre tired of people dying, stealing, ignoring their kids because of te drug problems what is your solution since you have so much experience?? Thats right youre like the other 90% that think jail fixes things, ya think jail is where i belong? Buildin jails for addicts is like building cemetaries for people with AIDS, doesnt help a thing!!
I agree

Lebanon, KY

#11 May 4, 2010
here in FF wrote:
i believe in rehab, once your that bad off that you need these medications you need to just put yourself in somewhere, its all drugs, its all a pain in the ass. People with cancer need pain medication, People who have pain, not ppl who fake it, I think that we should let the druggies who use go through the withdrawls, Its horrilble that people think "other drugs" help. Maybe for a brief moment, but really nothing works! Why help them, and i have experience in this area, family members and good friends are druggies, I just dont care anymore...done with helping.
I'm sure your probably fed up with helping.You say you have family members that are on druggs.How long was they on Suboxone or Methadone.After they got off the other druggs they should have been able to pay for it their selfs after they got a job.You know some normal people start over after they get off the juice called Oxies,and they get jobs to pay for their Medicine to stay sobor.Sounds to me like you have been taken avantage of by Family members and friends,and you were not exsperienced enough at the time to know they were just using you to get high.SOunds to me the kinda of people your dealing with is the type that the govt could take all the pills off the market and they would be down in the base ment with Pinto beans and a syring exsperiencing on ways to get high off it.Its really all up to the user if they want to get clean or not and have a life for once.Myself I just got sick and tired of being sick and tired through the shit down.I couldn't handle it no more.Yea I laid sick for a few days,but thats just what you have to do.As far as being used I have been used too.That got old quick.FOund me some new friends to hang out with.What gets me is they have drug and dare assemblies at school and they bring in some Black guy out of columbus and all he talks about is how he smoked Mary Jane and then done crack and lost every thing and lost his new Cadialac that he bought with crack money.They need to talk about Opiat Addiction and Oxycontin Addiction,And show films on how easy it is to become addicted to that substance.I believe if the Devel wanted to buy some souls all he would need is a brief case full of Oxies and went to Scioto County he would fill that case with Contracts.Its sad too.How bad this drug is and how easy it is to get addicted to.They really need to take it off the market,but the govt is making to much money of it.
I agree

Lebanon, KY

#12 May 4, 2010
Just for today wrote:
<quoted text>How would you have experience? Because youre pissed at someone in your family for being an addict?NICE!!! Let me tell you this, i had cancer took my medicine as prescribed, guess what, when my treatments were over, my body as addicted, i didnt snort, shoot up, sell or buy street drugs and in a matter of 8 weeks on a doctors prescription, i was hooked and had no idea how to get out of the hell i was in. So tell me, how did you help them? Or should we say enable? If you go through what i went through, then tell me how i SHOULD have gotten clean!!! If youre tired of people dying, stealing, ignoring their kids because of te drug problems what is your solution since you have so much experience?? Thats right youre like the other 90% that think jail fixes things, ya think jail is where i belong? Buildin jails for addicts is like building cemetaries for people with AIDS, doesnt help a thing!!
I didn't mean to agree with that other guys comment.He or she is stupid.Your right Jail is not the cure for drug addiction.Suboxone is a good Crutch that allows people to get better before they go comepletly clean.Being addicted for the last ten years I needed some thing like Suboxone to help me get sobor.After taking it for two years I did so,and I'm still doing good.FOr those who need help.I pray for you too.I hope one day you guys get the opportunity that I had to get Sobor and see how much better and easier life had become.That person who made that comment sounds like a parant who is stuck up and just was a denial infested person.Who enabled their family to use them.
I have to say

Lebanon, KY

#13 May 4, 2010
Suboxone is a miracle drug.Iv'e seen alot of people get off drugs in Ironton,and Ashland.It has saved restored and saved the lifes of alot of people.Any one who says Suboxone isn't a good thing is in Denial,and is probably a dope dealer.Methadone is used for the kinda of people who are really bad off on the needle and or on Herion.I'm sure the county needs that too.
justfor toay

Ashland, KY

#14 May 4, 2010
I agree wrote:
<quoted text>I'm sure your probably fed up with helping.You say you have family members that are on druggs.How long was they on Suboxone or Methadone.After they got off the other druggs they should have been able to pay for it their selfs after they got a job.You know some normal people start over after they get off the juice called Oxies,and they get jobs to pay for their Medicine to stay sobor.Sounds to me like you have been taken avantage of by Family members and friends,and you were not exsperienced enough at the time to know they were just using you to get high.SOunds to me the kinda of people your dealing with is the type that the govt could take all the pills off the market and they would be down in the base ment with Pinto beans and a syring exsperiencing on ways to get high off it.Its really all up to the user if they want to get clean or not and have a life for once.Myself I just got sick and tired of being sick and tired through the shit down.I couldn't handle it no more.Yea I laid sick for a few days,but thats just what you have to do.As far as being used I have been used too.That got old quick.FOund me some new friends to hang out with.What gets me is they have drug and dare assemblies at school and they bring in some Black guy out of columbus and all he talks about is how he smoked Mary Jane and then done crack and lost every thing and lost his new Cadialac that he bought with crack money.They need to talk about Opiat Addiction and Oxycontin Addiction,And show films on how easy it is to become addicted to that substance.I believe if the Devel wanted to buy some souls all he would need is a brief case full of Oxies and went to Scioto County he would fill that case with Contracts.Its sad too.How bad this drug is and how easy it is to get addicted to.They really need to take it off the market,but the govt is making to much money of it.
ALL opiates can be highly addictive, and so is cocaine crack, meth, we cant seperate which is the worst, opiates have way more physical withdrawl, but if youre clean long enough you realize it aint about the drug of choice, or any drug, its about addiction.Its about what is different in our brain tht makes us feel like one is good so lets take 10, its about why our brain acts like its oxygen deprived when we cant get our drug, its about what in our brain will make us rob,steal,lie,cheat or kill to keep from being dope sick. Like i said its not about morals or love of family, its abot us being chemically different and how we need to LEARN to live clean, just taking the drugs away isnt gonna do it, hope and prayers for those still SUFFERING!
here in FF

United States

#15 May 4, 2010
im saying in my situation where i am today,(obviously im not you to whomever reads this) that i am fed up with it all, Im just done, and no for the record i am not a stuck up parent...im a sister, a daughter and a niece, a friend, who is just soooo sick of all the talk of drugs and in MY life i have never seen any of it help....so sorry if i offended anyone but this is just my opinion for the ppl in my life and my story! And just for the record i do believe in the re-hab thing, its the money that the people want to help someone that is a crime!
here in FF

United States

#16 May 4, 2010
oh yeah, and JUST FOR TODAY: i did say there was the exceptions, the people who need drugs for pain such as cancer, i just lost my dad to it and he needed the medicine, I just see so many others who supposedly have serious things wrong with them get the medicine then sell it to our loved ones, its a horrible cycle, I do believe in symapthy for some but not for all......
Just for today

Ashland, KY

#17 May 4, 2010
here in FF wrote:
oh yeah, and JUST FOR TODAY: i did say there was the exceptions, the people who need drugs for pain such as cancer, i just lost my dad to it and he needed the medicine, I just see so many others who supposedly have serious things wrong with them get the medicine then sell it to our loved ones, its a horrible cycle, I do believe in symapthy for some but not for all......
My Mom took pain meds for Cancer too, sorry about your Dad, im glad you do believe in rehab and sympathize for some, not all want help, and not all get better, im very pasionate about recovery so i didnt mean to sound so crude, never thought you were stuck up, just dont like all the comments about throwing addicts in jail,under the jail, or let them die, which wasnt in your comment but we hear it alot.No hard felings
here in FF

West Union, OH

#18 May 4, 2010
in my experiences they try to get help' say their getting help, then go right back, or never stop using, its hard to watch. and here in franklin furnace its a nightmare!
just for today

Ashland, KY

#19 May 4, 2010
A lot of people relapse, not everyone, but they need to keep coming back to meetings or treatment, eventually the consquences will get them, and they either go on to jails, institutions or death,or.....recover. I hope they find the latter.
here in FF

United States

#20 May 4, 2010
thanks, me too, but im such a skeptic at the moment, ughh its so difficult, but the hope that things actually helps, helps!

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