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Satanic Priest

“There is no god”

Since: Jul 12

War, WV

#22 Jan 31, 2013
10) God Assists Rape and Plunder (Zechariah 14:1-2 NAB)



Lo, a day shall come for the Lord when the spoils shall be divided in your midst. And I will gather all the nations against Jerusalem for battle: the city shall be taken, houses plundered, women ravished; half of the city shall go into exile, but the rest of the people shall not be removed from the city.(Zechariah 14:1-2 NAB)
Sex Slaves (Exodus 21:7-11 NLT)



When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she will not be freed at the end of six years as the men are. If she does not please the man who bought her, he may allow her to be bought back again. But he is not allowed to sell her to foreigners, since he is the one who broke the contract with her. And if the slave girl's owner arranges for her to marry his son, he may no longer treat her as a slave girl, but he must treat her as his daughter. If he himself marries her and then takes another wife, he may not reduce her food or clothing or fail to sleep with her as his wife. If he fails in any of these three ways, she may leave as a free woman without making any payment.(Exodus 21:7-11 NLT)
Rape of Female Captives (Deuteronomy 21:10-14 NAB)



"When you go out to war against your enemies and the LORD, your God, delivers them into your hand, so that you take captives, if you see a comely woman among the captives and become so enamored of her that you wish to have her as wife, you may take her home to your house. But before she may live there, she must shave her head and pare her nails and lay aside her captive's garb. After she has mourned her father and mother for a full month, you may have relations with her, and you shall be her husband and she shall be your wife. However, if later on you lose your liking for her, you shall give her her freedom, if she wishes it; but you shall not sell her or enslave her, since she was married to you under compulsion."


Once again God approves of forcible rape.
As you approach a town to attack it, first offer its people terms for peace. If they accept your terms and open the gates to you, then all the people inside will serve you in forced labor. But if they refuse to make peace and prepare to fight, you must attack the town. When the LORD your God hands it over to you, kill every man in the town. But you may keep for yourselves all the women, children, livestock, and other plunder. You may enjoy the spoils of your enemies that the LORD your God has given you.
From there Elisha went up to Bethel. While he was on his way, some small boys came out of the city and jeered at him. "Go up baldhead," they shouted, "go up baldhead!" The prophet turned and saw them, and he cursed them in the name of the Lord. Then two shebears came out of the woods and tore forty two of the children to pieces.(2 Kings 2:23-24 NAB)

yep

United States

#25 Jan 31, 2013
Lordy wrote:
Indeed, let people live... that means, stop telling them what they need to choose! Stop telling them to 'fear' what it is 'you' do not 'know'. Better yet, do not understand. Allow people to have that 'free-will' choice. They need not your God to live freely. They need not your God to behave in a rightful manner. They need not your God for protection. And they definitely need not your God for ANY kind of knowledge. Begone now peasant, you have some serving to do on your knees.
I never told anyone they had to do anything. That's what you do, not me.
Wow

Frankfort, KY

#26 Jan 31, 2013
Did someone really just endorse Richard Dawkins? I'm agnostic. And Dawkins is a major douche. Please don't put that tool in the same sentence with great people like Einstein and Edison ever again.
KarenW

Shepherdsville, KY

#27 Feb 1, 2013
Thinker wrote:
<quoted text>Facts that have been uncovered over time by such freethinkers as: Einstein, Stephen Hawking, Sigmund Freud, Ben Franklin, Thomas Edison, Richard Dawkins and so on. And who's on your side? The Westboro Baptist Church, Kirk Cameron, Bill O'reilly, David Koresh, the KKK, Jim Jones, Robert Tilton, Benny Hinn...lol. I think I'll stick with evidence and reason.
If you ever need cold, hard evidence that you cannot trust your own judgment, just refer back to the point you failed to make here.

Note how you (a) IGNORED the worst of athiesm's historical figures (Stalin alone murdered tens of millions), and (b) CHOSE the worst of those who CALL themselves Christians.

Cold, hard evidence that your pride clouds your thinking. Which is, in the end, what keeps us humans from recognizing God. We want to be our own god.

Please also note that Stalin and other evil athiests were, no doubt, athiests. On the other hand, members of Westboro, the KKK, etc. CLAIM to be Christians. That claim doesn't make them so.
nope

Frankfort, KY

#28 Feb 1, 2013
KarenW wrote:
<quoted text>
If you ever need cold, hard evidence that you cannot trust your own judgment, just refer back to the point you failed to make here.
Note how you (a) IGNORED the worst of athiesm's historical figures (Stalin alone murdered tens of millions), and (b) CHOSE the worst of those who CALL themselves Christians.
Cold, hard evidence that your pride clouds your thinking. Which is, in the end, what keeps us humans from recognizing God. We want to be our own god.
Please also note that Stalin and other evil athiests were, no doubt, athiests. On the other hand, members of Westboro, the KKK, etc. CLAIM to be Christians. That claim doesn't make them so.
and your desire for the voice in your head to be "God" does not make it so. Look up the word simulicrum.
KarenW

Shepherdsville, KY

#29 Feb 1, 2013
Not really on topic, but thanks for the vocabulary addition.
nope

Frankfort, KY

#30 Feb 1, 2013
KarenW wrote:
Not really on topic, but thanks for the vocabulary addition.
If we're talking about the existence of god, then yes, it was very much ON TOPIC. What is your cold, hard evidence that god exists?
Thinker

Frankfort, KY

#31 Feb 1, 2013
I've never seen atheists setting up phony faith healing shows. I've never seen atheists beg for %10 of my paycheck. I've never seen atheists picketing at the funerals of the recently deceased. MOST IMPORTANTLY, atheists don't tell me to turn a blind eye to the OVERWHELMING evidence against creation.

Since: Jan 13

Location hidden

#32 Feb 1, 2013
Any "Christian" who argues the bible and partakes in debates, has either recently found God, has NOT read the bible or is NOT a Christian. Knowing the bible, a true Christian will not debate with people matters of the bible.

Therefore, I discredit those who do:

"Don't have anything to do with foolish and stupid arguments, because you know they produce quarrels."
- 2 Timothy 2:23 NIV84
KarenW

Shepherdsville, KY

#33 Feb 1, 2013
Thinker wrote:
I've never seen atheists setting up phony faith healing shows. I've never seen atheists beg for %10 of my paycheck. I've never seen atheists picketing at the funerals of the recently deceased. MOST IMPORTANTLY, atheists don't tell me to turn a blind eye to the OVERWHELMING evidence against creation.
Again, read my comment. Those are not things Christians do. I can go stand in a garage, and call myself a car. That doesn't make me one.

And you're going to have to be more specific about "creation." If you're talking about "young earth" creationism, I agree. If you're talking about the creation of the Universe, I disagree.

Satanic Priest

“There is no god”

Since: Jul 12

War, WV

#34 Feb 1, 2013
KarenW wrote:
<quoted text>
If you ever need cold, hard evidence that you cannot trust your own judgment, just refer back to the point you failed to make here.
Note how you (a) IGNORED the worst of athiesm's historical figures (Stalin alone murdered tens of millions), and (b) CHOSE the worst of those who CALL themselves Christians.
Cold, hard evidence that your pride clouds your thinking. Which is, in the end, what keeps us humans from recognizing God. We want to be our own god.
Please also note that Stalin and other evil athiests were, no doubt, athiests. On the other hand, members of Westboro, the KKK, etc. CLAIM to be Christians. That claim doesn't make them so.
From YOUR bible YOUR god killed 25,000,000. The "christian" crusades killed over 50,000,000.
Your god is by far the most evil of them all!
You want to disclaim the evil done by your cult by saying that "they are not really christians" Yep like terrorist are not really Muslim. The fact is your cult elevates itself by defaming others, it was OK to slaughter native Americans because they where beneath the christians.
YOUR bible says slavery is good and you should sell your daughters, it tells you to be joyful as you beat babies to death (want the bible verse?)
Your sick evil cult has murdered more people than any other group and war all in the name of jesus, because you place yourself above all others and feel that you have the right to end the life of some one else (just like the muslims do)

Satanic Priest

“There is no god”

Since: Jul 12

War, WV

#35 Feb 1, 2013
KarenW wrote:
<quoted text>
Again, read my comment. Those are not things Christians do. I can go stand in a garage, and call myself a car. That doesn't make me one.
And you're going to have to be more specific about "creation." If you're talking about "young earth" creationism, I agree. If you're talking about the creation of the Universe, I disagree.
You can say that there is a god that does not make it true. PROVE that there is a god!
ACTIONS SPEAK THE TRUTH WHILE WORDS LIE. The ACTIONS of the christian cult, from 2 thousand years ago to today, say that your cult is evil.
timothy

Frankfort, KY

#36 Feb 1, 2013
Serious1y wrote:
Any "Christian" who argues the bible and partakes in debates, has either recently found God, has NOT read the bible or is NOT a Christian. Knowing the bible, a true Christian will not debate with people matters of the bible.
Therefore, I discredit those who do:
"Don't have anything to do with foolish and stupid arguments, because you know they produce quarrels."
- 2 Timothy 2:23 NIV84
Yes, because if you have read the bible you will know that it is BS...."learneth not the truth, for it is better to be ignorant and happy." 1 Moron 3:12
KarenW

Shepherdsville, KY

#37 Feb 1, 2013
Satanic Priest wrote:
<quoted text>You can say that there is a god that does not make it true. PROVE that there is a god!
ACTIONS SPEAK THE TRUTH WHILE WORDS LIE. The ACTIONS of the christian cult, from 2 thousand years ago to today, say that your cult is evil.
Your unwillingness to address what I said makes it obvious you are just not ready for a mature discussion. Have a great weekend.

Satanic Priest

“There is no god”

Since: Jul 12

War, WV

#38 Feb 1, 2013
KarenW wrote:
<quoted text>
Your unwillingness to address what I said makes it obvious you are just not ready for a mature discussion. Have a great weekend.
I addressed what you sid. For me to want proof of your god does not make your god real. For you to point out the horrors that a few people who did not believe in your god and ignore the vast horrors that your bible claims and that the people who follow that bible did in Jesus's name shows that you want to pick and choose, just like you read your bible.
Hitler was a christian and made it law for every one in Germany to be christian, but you want to rewrite history.
How about all of the people tortured and burned alive by your evil cult? You will find something to justify that.
As far as discuss, you mean that you will preach at me and ignore my words?
Do a google search for the words "baptist youth minister sex children" and tell me how many MILLIONS of results you get. Go to stopbaptistpreditors.com
KarenW

Shepherdsville, KY

#39 Feb 2, 2013
Satanic Priest wrote:
<quoted text>I addressed what you sid.
You didn't, and you continually fail to. My point was: anyone can call themselves a Christian. It doesn't make them one. The only response you had to that was, "Yup like terrorists aren't Muslims". As 95% of Muslims, they will tell you radical Islam is not true Islam. But for you to make that statement reveals a lot more about you than it does about Muslims.

The rest of what you said was the usual diatribe you post on here.

And you continually make the same fallacious argument. "Hitler was a Christian". No he wasn't. The life of a Christian is marked by a gradual conforming to the likeness of Christ. You love more, you care more, you serve others more. That is part of any Christian denomination's theology.

I declare myself a Buddhist.

Did that make me one? Do I really act like true Buddhists act, believe what they believe? No. But I claimed to be one. Therefore, whatever I do from now on, feel free to rage against the evil Buddhists.

Whatever has made you so bitter is going to eat you alive. If you truly aren't afraid of "truth", read some good Christian apologetics to gain a more advanced understanding of those aspects of Christianity that seem to trouble you so much. carm.org is a good place to start.

Have a great weekend.

Satanic Priest

“There is no god”

Since: Jul 12

War, WV

#40 Feb 2, 2013
KarenW wrote:
<quoted text>
You didn't, and you continually fail to. My point was: anyone can call themselves a Christian. It doesn't make them one. The only response you had to that was, "Yup like terrorists aren't Muslims". As 95% of Muslims, they will tell you radical Islam is not true Islam. But for you to make that statement reveals a lot more about you than it does about Muslims.
The rest of what you said was the usual diatribe you post on here.
And you continually make the same fallacious argument. "Hitler was a Christian". No he wasn't. The life of a Christian is marked by a gradual conforming to the likeness of Christ. You love more, you care more, you serve others more. That is part of any Christian denomination's theology.
I declare myself a Buddhist.
Did that make me one? Do I really act like true Buddhists act, believe what they believe? No. But I claimed to be one. Therefore, whatever I do from now on, feel free to rage against the evil Buddhists.
Whatever has made you so bitter is going to eat you alive. If you truly aren't afraid of "truth", read some good Christian apologetics to gain a more advanced understanding of those aspects of Christianity that seem to trouble you so much. carm.org is a good place to start.
Have a great weekend.
OK, I misunderstood your argument. You are correct, there are "real christians" and there are church people. I agree.
If some one TRIES to live by what was written in Matthew 25:32-46 They are better people than I am, however the vast majority of people who call themselves christians go to church to elevate themselves above others, patting themselves on the back while looking down on every one. Social status and wealth are their god.(And i is these people who defame others to make themselves look good are who I am talking about when I make statements about christians, got a better name for them?)
welp

United States

#41 Feb 2, 2013
Satanic Priest wrote:
<quoted text>OK, I misunderstood your argument. You are correct, there are "real christians" and there are church people. I agree.
If some one TRIES to live by what was written in Matthew 25:32-46 They are better people than I am, however the vast majority of people who call themselves christians go to church to elevate themselves above others, patting themselves on the back while looking down on every one. Social status and wealth are their god.(And i is these people who defame others to make themselves look good are who I am talking about when I make statements about christians, got a better name for them?)
"Vast majority"? That is an opinion and I have to disagree. I would assume that you probably don't associate with too many church folk, based on your adamant despise for them, so your opinion is likely based solely on assumptions. I'm so sorry that you have such a low opinion of the majority of Christians. I challenge you to open your mind and become friends with a few. I think you might be surprised how their belief in God in no way forces them to judge others or feel superior. Yes, there are those who aren't genuine, but I feel that's the exception an not the rule. Of course, as always, you are entitled to your beliefs but it is hard to hear all the anger and hatred and I hope that civil discussion helps ease your emotions on the topic.
KarenW

Shepherdsville, KY

#42 Feb 2, 2013
Satanic Priest wrote:
<quoted text>OK, I misunderstood your argument. You are correct, there are "real christians" and there are church people. I agree.
If some one TRIES to live by what was written in Matthew 25:32-46 They are better people than I am, however the vast majority of people who call themselves christians go to church to elevate themselves above others, patting themselves on the back while looking down on every one. Social status and wealth are their god.(And i is these people who defame others to make themselves look good are who I am talking about when I make statements about christians, got a better name for them?)
You're not accurate about "vast majority", but we agree on this in concept.

I'm fine with calling them false Christians. Jesus was pretty clear that he was to separate the wheat from the chaff. They've been around since the first century and they always will be around. However, I will say this, I won't look down on a hypocrite going to church because that's the best place they could possibly be.

Off to play in the snow with my kiddos, have a great weekend.

Satanic Priest

“There is no god”

Since: Jul 12

War, WV

#43 Feb 2, 2013
welp wrote:
<quoted text>
"Vast majority"? That is an opinion and I have to disagree. I would assume that you probably don't associate with too many church folk, based on your adamant despise for them, so your opinion is likely based solely on assumptions. I'm so sorry that you have such a low opinion of the majority of Christians. I challenge you to open your mind and become friends with a few. I think you might be surprised how their belief in God in no way forces them to judge others or feel superior. Yes, there are those who aren't genuine, but I feel that's the exception an not the rule. Of course, as always, you are entitled to your beliefs but it is hard to hear all the anger and hatred and I hope that civil discussion helps ease your emotions on the topic.
Come to SW FL and speak to the vast majority of church goers

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