Juvenile Records
just wrong

Tucker, GA

#1 Dec 17, 2012
I say the court systems should open up the juvenile records and maybe such horrible things wouldnt happen to innocent people like what happen Friday. God bless their souls.
JC

Frankfort, KY

#2 Dec 17, 2012
just wrong wrote:
I say the court systems should open up the juvenile records and maybe such horrible things wouldnt happen to innocent people like what happen Friday. God bless their souls.
He had no record so what exactly would this accomplish? Not to mention he wasn't a juvenile.
Seriously

Frankfort, KY

#3 Dec 17, 2012
just wrong wrote:
I say the court systems should open up the juvenile records and maybe such horrible things wouldnt happen to innocent people like what happen Friday. God bless their souls.
What they should do is put corporal punishment back in schools, and in 25 more years, we will see a better class of people. Just like we saw a worse class of people now,25 years after they took OUT corporal punishment.
Fallen Angel

United States

#4 Dec 17, 2012
Seriously wrote:
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What they should do is put corporal punishment back in schools, and in 25 more years, we will see a better class of people. Just like we saw a worse class of people now,25 years after they took OUT corporal punishment.
I agree. For some reason the fear of punishment for doing something wrong was deemed damaging to children. I was spanked as a child and feel that spanking is a fine deterrent. I feel this way, not because I'm angry for being spanked, I'm thankful for it. I grew up in a time where neighbors might give you a whop for something, call your parents and then you'd get another one when you made it home. Takes a village/community to raise 1 child, folks. If we were all in this together, like it used to be, we wouldn't have near the bullsh1t we deal with now.
right

United States

#5 Dec 17, 2012
Fallen Angel wrote:
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I agree. For some reason the fear of punishment for doing something wrong was deemed damaging to children. I was spanked as a child and feel that spanking is a fine deterrent. I feel this way, not because I'm angry for being spanked, I'm thankful for it. I grew up in a time where neighbors might give you a whop for something, call your parents and then you'd get another one when you made it home. Takes a village/community to raise 1 child, folks. If we were all in this together, like it used to be, we wouldn't have near the bullsh1t we deal with now.
Yep, spare the rod, spoil the child. That's the problem. Most kids are spoiled rotten and do whatever they want to do and they rule the house instead of the other way around. Teachers have no control because parents won't allow it. It's sad the way that the world has taken away punishments for children and in return, kids are spoiled rotten and end up being a menace to society! There is a difference in spanking and abusing! But, most people don't understand that! They think they are traumatizing kids by spanking them! Wrong answer! Look around and see the problems we have now days as opposed to the ones that we had when we were children! The world is a crazy place!!
Fallen Angel

Hays, KS

#6 Dec 17, 2012
right wrote:
<quoted text> Yep, spare the rod, spoil the child. That's the problem. Most kids are spoiled rotten and do whatever they want to do and they rule the house instead of the other way around. Teachers have no control because parents won't allow it. It's sad the way that the world has taken away punishments for children and in return, kids are spoiled rotten and end up being a menace to society! There is a difference in spanking and abusing! But, most people don't understand that! They think they are traumatizing kids by spanking them! Wrong answer! Look around and see the problems we have now days as opposed to the ones that we had when we were children! The world is a crazy place!!
Exactly! As I child I knew what my limits were. Anytime I crossed the line I was put in check. And yes, SPANKING is not abuse. I was not beaten, whipped or struck with a belt. I was spanked. Every spanking was led by a short lecture on WHY I was going to be spanked. There was never any question on why I was being punished. I was allowed to question my punishment and was given an answer. As I aged I received fewer spankings because I LEARNED that THOSE BEHAVIORS WOULD NOT BE TOLERATED!
realism

Frankfort, KY

#7 Dec 17, 2012
Seriously wrote:
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What they should do is put corporal punishment back in schools, and in 25 more years, we will see a better class of people. Just like we saw a worse class of people now,25 years after they took OUT corporal punishment.
punishment should be left to the parents,it should not be a teachers place to decide when a student should be physically punished.and not ALL of today's generation are the way you speak of them i am very young myself and i have plenty of respect and other values that were taught to me by my family.I personally have enough problems in school without the factor of teachers being able to physically punish a student,from what i have seen such a law would only be taken advantage of.it's not that i do not agree children should receive punishment as a result of bad actions,i just don't believe it should be left to a school teacher to decide.
Seriously

Frankfort, KY

#8 Dec 18, 2012
realism wrote:
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punishment should be left to the parents,it should not be a teachers place to decide when a student should be physically punished.and not ALL of today's generation are the way you speak of them i am very young myself and i have plenty of respect and other values that were taught to me by my family.I personally have enough problems in school without the factor of teachers being able to physically punish a student,from what i have seen such a law would only be taken advantage of.it's not that i do not agree children should receive punishment as a result of bad actions,i just don't believe it should be left to a school teacher to decide.
If you commit a crime, should the courts send you to your mommy and daddy for punishment?

If you are very young,(less than 35) You have never seen paddling in schools. So you really cannot speak intelligently about the effects of paddling in schools. It was blown WAY out of proportion by the left winger feel good people. They painted a picture of children lined up in the hall ways being spanked for no reason. Hardly the case.

Paddling WORKS on several levels.

1) If you get in trouble and get spanked, you likely won't want to repeat that because,(from personal experience) it is not pleasant.
2) When you hear another child get spanked, you will be "inspired" to avoid it yourself.
3) The rumors about the horrors of being paddled sure are effective.(only adults who were in school when paddling was acceptable will understand this)

It's like public execution, if you watch someone hang for murder, you will be less likely to murder yourself. Because there are REAL consequences for your actions.

The issue with letting parents correct, is they DON'T. Parents depend on the government to raise and instill values in their children, yet not to punish wrong actions.

It's a simple concept. If you are well disciplined at home, likely you would never get the paddle at school. If your parents do THEIR jobs and raise respectful kids, then it's a non-issue. However, when parents fail, and many do, the school needs an effective method. Parents are too hands off or would rather medicate to get desired behavior.

Children seem to think that spanking is against the law and abuse, it absolutely is NOT and is allowed and supported by law in Kentucky. Spanking mind you, not beating. There is a difference.

Look around at people your age that you know. Are/Were they afraid to get in trouble at school? Are/were they respectful to teachers and have respect for school authorities?

If there is no fear of consequences, there many times is not respect for authority. We teach kids at a young age they are not responsible for their actions.(due to no consequences) Hence, they grow up always blaming someone or something else for their reasons of failure.

"Im fat because of this..." No, you are fat because you are lazy and eat too much junk food.

"I don't do well in school because..." No, you don't do well in school because you don't try or are too busy doing something else.

"I am not popular because of..." No, you are not popular because maybe you are an a$$hole.

If you fail at something, look in the mirror. More often than not you find the reason there. Be responsible for yourself.

Ask my kids if I spank. My son has been spanked twice. He is 15. The last time I spanked him he was 5. One for throwing a temper tantrum and blowing snot when his mother was trying to get him to go in and change. He wanted to stay out and play. The first was for hitting his sister with a golf club. He tells his sisters (younger) to this day, don't push dad, you DON'T want to be spanked. I use hand to bare butt. Very effective. Making an example out of my son (oldest) kept the younger ones in line. The FEAR of consequences did the rest of the work for me.

They are not afraid of me, but certain are afraid of consequences. The way it SHOULD be.
Seriously

Frankfort, KY

#9 Dec 18, 2012
realism wrote:
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punishment should be left to the parents,it should not be a teachers place to decide when a student should be physically punished.and not ALL of today's generation are the way you speak of them i am very young myself and i have plenty of respect and other values that were taught to me by my family.I personally have enough problems in school without the factor of teachers being able to physically punish a student,from what i have seen such a law would only be taken advantage of.it's not that i do not agree children should receive punishment as a result of bad actions,i just don't believe it should be left to a school teacher to decide.
Of course, because that is so effective isn't it? As crime increases and respect for fellow people and authority decreases.

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