serenity

Frankfort, KY

#1 Oct 30, 2012
I've heard they started lowering everyone subs they prescribe for a day. It use to be four a day, then they started 3 a day. Now I heard its 2 1/2 for new patients. Because the DEA has stepped in and making the rules. Why can't the doctors determine the amount for each individual? Everytime there is something to help the addict they have to try and take it away.
Does anyone agree or disagree?
shame

United States

#2 Oct 30, 2012
What I don't understand is that they are giving out subs like candy but wont give you a pain pill if you had your leg cut off wtf kinda sense does that make. Suboxene is just as bad or not worse that pain pills. Its all about what the government wants you to take not what your doctor thinks you need. Way to go governor....going after people that have been to school for 24 years. Yeah doctors are really criminals aren't they.
huh

Frankfort, KY

#3 Oct 31, 2012
This is the most misinformed drug out there. They will still prescribe 4 a day. They do have to start the tapering after stabelization. Different for different folks. Suboxone isn't JUST AS BAD OR WORSE than pain pills. Suboxone is PART OF A REHAB UTILIZATION to get addicts off drugs. They will not let a person stay on it for life. As for the four a day part, most of those are going to the streets & tighter controls are needed to prevent diversion. Suboxone works for people but it also works for dealers & people wanting to trade it for other drugs. Tighter controls are needed.
serenity

United States

#4 Oct 31, 2012
huh wrote:
This is the most misinformed drug out there. They will still prescribe 4 a day. They do have to start the tapering after stabelization. Different for different folks. Suboxone isn't JUST AS BAD OR WORSE than pain pills. Suboxone is PART OF A REHAB UTILIZATION to get addicts off drugs. They will not let a person stay on it for life. As for the four a day part, most of those are going to the streets & tighter controls are needed to prevent diversion. Suboxone works for people but it also works for dealers & people wanting to trade it for other drugs. Tighter controls are needed.
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12 steps

Pleasureville, KY

#5 Oct 31, 2012
as an ex perc 30/opana addict who put 300 plus mg's up my nose on a daily basis for many years i must say two subs are sufficient to beat the withdrawals. if your still chasing a buzz you aint gonna get better. subs arent really a good endgame anyway because you are just trading one drug for another. the detox off a sub habit ranks right up there with oxy, and once that detox starts you will be begging for the first fix you can find. subs are just another way for government to keep the suffering addict down and under the the thumb
serenity

United States

#6 Nov 1, 2012
12 steps wrote:
as an ex perc 30/opana addict who put 300 plus mg's up my nose on a daily basis for many years i must say two subs are sufficient to beat the withdrawals. if your still chasing a buzz you aint gonna get better. subs arent really a good endgame anyway because you are just trading one drug for another. the detox off a sub habit ranks right up there with oxy, and once that detox starts you will be begging for the first fix you can find. subs are just another way for government to keep the suffering addict down and under the the thumb
Lets hope there is no withdrawal from subs. I am following the guidelines from my Dr. He said they will slowly taper me off. I don't want to use drugs anymore but I feel normal while taking my subs as prescribed except I take one less a day than I'm suppose to. My insurance covers the meds but not the Dr visit. It's $400 mnth. That's less than I spent on street though
There

Frankfort, KY

#7 Nov 1, 2012
Maybe the W/D are different for me...its takes me 3-4 days to start feeling bad and usually the only symptoms I get are chronic insomnia, mild chills, and sneezing fits. Sometimes loose BM, but I wouldn't call it diarrhea.
I could probably go ahead and stop if I wanted to, but I know the insomnia lasts for over a week so I am waiting for a time when I have a week or more off work so the ordeal isn't as troublesome. I am shooting for X-mas.

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