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Mrsseeking2bp31

Frankfort, KY

#1 Jan 25, 2013
Agree or not I believe a man is the leader of his House hold (Family). The question is to what degree is a wife to be submissive, without losing her independence?(Not just a random question I'm struggling with this one personally any help would be appreciated from both the men and women)
Atheist

Frankfort, KY

#2 Jan 26, 2013
That is so biblical.
The problem with that arises when the 'man' isn't up to the task.
How far are you willing to take that archaic ideal?
Do you provide 100% of the household income?
Probably not.
Like all religious folk, you probably only invoke this doctrine when it suits your desires of the moment.
Citizen

Frankfort, KY

#4 Jan 26, 2013
You should only let a man be the man of the household if he's capable. The bible says a man should love his wife as much as he loves himself and her happiness should be as important as his own. Any man incapable of that, should not be the man of a household.

Since: Apr 10

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#5 Jan 26, 2013
You shouldn't try to live your life based on the babblings of desert people from the Bronze Age.
Relationships

Frankfort, KY

#6 Jan 26, 2013
Only work when it is 50/50.. To degrate yourself to a form of submission, either comes from your up bringing or a domestic violence type relationship. If it comes from your up bringing its time to realize that mommy and daddy aren't right about everything and this is one of those things. If it is because of domestic violence then you should get away from this person ASAP
Mrsseeking2bp31

Frankfort, KY

#7 Jan 27, 2013
Citizen wrote:
You should only let a man be the man of the household if he's capable. The bible says a man should love his wife as much as he loves himself and her happiness should be as important as his own. Any man incapable of that, should not be the man of a household.
I agree with you to an extent. "Love" dose not always mean considering ones Happiness. Happiness is an emotion as we know emotions are quickly changed. As a mother I often have to make decisions or acts of love on my children's behalfs which at the time do not nesasarly bring them happiness at that moment. How ever is benifcial to their well being. Does this mean that I don't love them because for a momment I am makeing them unhappy?
Mrsseeking2bp31

Frankfort, KY

#8 Jan 27, 2013
Atheist wrote:
That is so biblical.
The problem with that arises when the 'man' isn't up to the task.
How far are you willing to take that archaic ideal?
Do you provide 100% of the household income?
Probably not.
Like all religious folk, you probably only invoke this doctrine when it suits your desires of the moment.
I'm not sure I understand what you mean by how far? I was talking about family living every day life. Marrage. As far as income goes I'm not sure how that aplies? God is our provider. God does require a a husband to provide for his family in ALL things not just finances just as all leaders do.

It is not my husband who strugles with his responabilities.

as my original post stated its me. In simple terms what do you consider a good wife?

And no I'm anything from mucky water. And we don't have set doctrines. We belive God word is alive so we try to take a regular look at the scriptures.
Mrsseeking2bp31

Frankfort, KY

#9 Jan 27, 2013
Relationships wrote:
Only work when it is 50/50.. To degrate yourself to a form of submission, either comes from your up bringing or a domestic violence type relationship. If it comes from your up bringing its time to realize that mommy and daddy aren't right about everything and this is one of those things. If it is because of domestic violence then you should get away from this person ASAP
What do you consider 50/50?

My parents beliefs and mine are slightly diferant. I think you maybe misunderstanding my term submission. IN our family it only means to respect and honor and subordant. Much the same you would do for an elder family member but on the spouse level and as my husband and because he loves me and honers me as his wife that isn't abused.

are you currently in a relationship just wondering?
Mrsseeking2bp31

Frankfort, KY

#12 Jan 27, 2013
my opinion wrote:
<quoted text> You're pathetic.
Why? Because I can't spell? Yeah I know I've had problems with it forever I'm with you on this one.

Or is it because I have religious beliefs?

Here's some big news for you we are EVERY WHERE!!!! Can't Spellers that is!

oh yeah and people with religious beliefs to.
CounselorTroi

Lawrenceburg, KY

#13 Jan 27, 2013
What part of your responsibilities are you having a hard time with? Are you wondering what your role as a wife is? Are you wondering how much he should do as opposed to how much you do? You haven't stated exactly what issues you are having. I'm willing to listen, but I have to know what the actual issues are. Then we can work on how to make you feel better.

Since: Apr 10

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#14 Jan 27, 2013
"God is our provider."

If that's true, why do you have to go out and work for your food and shelter? Why do children around the world starve?
Mrsseeking2bp31 wrote:
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I'm not sure I understand what you mean by how far? I was talking about family living every day life. Marrage. As far as income goes I'm not sure how that aplies? God is our provider. God does require a a husband to provide for his family in ALL things not just finances just as all leaders do.
It is not my husband who strugles with his responabilities.
as my original post stated its me. In simple terms what do you consider a good wife?
And no I'm anything from mucky water. And we don't have set doctrines. We belive God word is alive so we try to take a regular look at the scriptures.
American

Frankfort, KY

#15 Jan 27, 2013
Mrsseeking2bp31 wrote:
Agree or not I believe a man is the leader of his House hold (Family). The question is to what degree is a wife to be submissive, without losing her independence?(Not just a random question I'm struggling with this one personally any help would be appreciated from both the men and women)
. A lot of different churches quote that scripture,but if you read on it also tells the husband to submit unto his wife also and that he should treat her with respect and as an equal. What I believe is that in a marriage it is a 50/50 relationship and it won't work any other way.
American

Frankfort, KY

#16 Jan 27, 2013
Anti-theist wrote:
"God is our provider."
If that's true, why do you have to go out and work for your food and shelter? Why do children around the world starve?
<quoted text>
. We have to work because of mans sin in the beginning as women are to have pains of childbirths. Children are starving around the world because of the greedy man sins of courseyou are atheist so you wouldn't know all that the Word of spoke of over 2000 years ago are coming to pass in these latter days.
Hmm

Frankfort, KY

#17 Jan 27, 2013
American wrote:
<quoted text>. We have to work because of mans sin in the beginning as women are to have pains of childbirths. Children are starving around the world because of the greedy man sins of courseyou are atheist so you wouldn't know all that the Word of spoke of over 2000 years ago are coming to pass in these latter days.
Male animals do what men do, we just have to "work" because homo sapiens learned it was easier to farm than it was to hunt everyday.
Female animals experience pain during childbirth, yet they didn't "sin" and don't have "souls".
Why is that?!?

Since: Apr 10

Location hidden

#18 Jan 27, 2013
"We have to work because of mans sin in the beginning as women are to have pains of childbirths." Well, Eve's body must have looked completely alien before the "fall." God must have rearranged the female anatomy to make childbirth hurt, because shooting an 8-pound baby out of your vagina has to hurt, no matter who you are. Do you ever stop and listen to your babble and consider how ridiculous it is?

"Children are starving around the world because of the greedy man sins" It doesn't make much sense to punish all of humanity for the mistakes of a few. But what else would you expect from a sadistic sky tyrant?

"the Word of spoke of over 2000 years ago are coming to pass in these latter days." Gibberish nonsense. Jesus has been "coming" for 2000 years, sucker.
American wrote:
<quoted text>. We have to work because of mans sin in the beginning as women are to have pains of childbirths. Children are starving around the world because of the greedy man sins of courseyou are atheist so you wouldn't know all that the Word of spoke of over 2000 years ago are coming to pass in these latter days.
Mrsseeking2bp31

Frankfort, KY

#19 Jan 27, 2013
Anti-theist wrote:
"God is our provider."
If that's true, why do you have to go out and work for your food and shelter? Why do children around the world starve?
<quoted text>
Just because God IS my provider dose not mean that I get to be lazy this is taught in the scriptures.

Children around the world starve for the same reason all evil, pain and suffering still take place because God has Yet to return thats just my beliefs.
hey there

Lawrenceburg, KY

#20 Jan 27, 2013
Relationships wrote:
Only work when it is 50/50.. To degrate yourself to a form of submission, either comes from your up bringing or a domestic violence type relationship. If it comes from your up bringing its time to realize that mommy and daddy aren't right about everything and this is one of those things. If it is because of domestic violence then you should get away from this person ASAP
my opinion 50/50 isnt good enough!!! It SHOULD be 100/100. Fair enough ;)

Since: Apr 10

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#21 Jan 27, 2013
"Just because God IS my provider dose not mean that I get to be lazy this is taught in the scriptures." Does your god provide for you or not? Make up your mind.

"Children around the world starve for the same reason all evil, pain and suffering still take place because God has Yet to return thats just my beliefs." You didn't answer the question. Why would your god provide for you and not innocent children around the world? Do you think you're special?
Mrsseeking2bp31 wrote:
<quoted text>
Just because God IS my provider dose not mean that I get to be lazy this is taught in the scriptures.
Children around the world starve for the same reason all evil, pain and suffering still take place because God has Yet to return thats just my beliefs.
Mrsseeking2bp31

Frankfort, KY

#22 Jan 27, 2013
American wrote:
<quoted text>. A lot of different churches quote that scripture,but if you read on it also tells the husband to submit unto his wife also and that he should treat her with respect and as an equal. What I believe is that in a marriage it is a 50/50 relationship and it won't work any other way.
I have to say your wrong on this one. Sorry
It is Wives submit to your own husbands as to the Lord
And for Husbands to love your wives as the Christ loves the church

So what do you do on issues that cant be compermised if it's 50/50 your in a stale mate right just wondering?
Mrsseeking2bp31

Frankfort, KY

#23 Jan 27, 2013
Anti-theist wrote:
"Just because God IS my provider dose not mean that I get to be lazy this is taught in the scriptures." Does your god provide for you or not? Make up your mind.
"Children around the world starve for the same reason all evil, pain and suffering still take place because God has Yet to return thats just my beliefs." You didn't answer the question. Why would your god provide for you and not innocent children around the world? Do you think you're special?
<quoted text>
Here I brake it down for you

# 1
Once more GOD IS MY PROVIDER!

Now #2
part 1
God provides for me because I beleve he's my provider.(simply put)

Part 2
Because evil,pain, suffering hunger, strife still exsist in our world and will until the return of Christ.

FYI: Many starving children who have come to know my God are currntly now being provided for and no longer Starving more then I say for your "non beliefs"

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