Is Richlle Lutz the council person Clinton County needs? See article below

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#1 Mar 26, 2014
From The Frankfort Times:
Actions taken recently by the Frankfort/Clinton County Airport Authority Board have been criticized by the candidate looking to unseat incumbent Alan Dunn from the Clinton County Council.
On top of disputing Dunn’s track record on the council, challenger Richelle Lutz questioned his leadership on the airport board, to which Dunn was appointed by the County Council.
Lutz argues that her opponent participated, with the rest of the six-member airport board, in decisions that failed to keep taxpayer interests in mind.
Furthermore, Lutz questioned whether the board followed state law in the aftermath of a burglary that caused hundreds of thousands of dollars in damage to a vacant airport-owned industrial building which sold earlier this month to Centurion Solutions.
Lutz and Dunn are competing in the Republican primary only for a seat on the County Council. Dunn’s status as council president, his appointment to the airport board and his position as that board’s president as well are all decided independently of the election.
Differing views on taxpayer interests
The airport authority board borrowed $1.6 million to buy the vacant industrial building next door. Lutz asked the board earlier this month whether the manner in which they spent that bond money was “fair to the taxpayers.”
Donald Tribbett, the board’s attorney, responded.
“To imply that somehow this board is being unfair to the taxpayers I don’t think is really a question,” he said.“I think it’s a statement, and I don’t even think it’s a fair statement because they are doing exactly what they understand the law to require.”
Tribbett said the board purchased the building and the 42 acres on which it sits for $1.2 million back in December 2012. Per the terms of a purchase deal signed with Centurion Solutions earlier this month, the airport recouped more than $1 million by selling off the building and about four acres of land.
Lutz said the money taken in from the sale should be used to lighten the tax burden by paying off the bond early.
Tribbett said, however, that the board isn’t allowed to pay off the bond early, citing legal advice from Ice Miller, the board’s bond counsel.
The law stipulates that proceeds from the sale can only be used to fund airport projects, according to Tribbett.
Lutz then argued that the board failed the public’s expectations of transparency.
“In this economy, you’re still taking taxpayers’ money and using it for what you think is better, and it was not brought up in a meeting whatsoever,” she said.“Nothing was said to the taxpayers about how you would spend their money.”
Dunn said the airport board had at least two public hearings prior to finalizing the bond. He noted that the terms of the bond haven’t changed and that the sale will enable the airport to move forward with economic development projects.
“There’s no negative to this,” he said.“There’s no negative to this at all.”
While the funds that fill the airport’s coffers were in fact collected from taxpayers, Dunn conceded, he insisted that the airport board is spending public money prudently and in a manner that will ultimately strengthen the tax roll.
“We’ll take that money to put other revenue-producing assets in place,” Dunn said.
He told Lutz that the airport’s work has not only been fair – it’s resulted in “one heck of an investment for the taxpayers.”
Burglars throw curve-ball
In addition to her concerns about the airport board’s grand plan to float a bond, purchase nearby land and parcel it out for economic development, Lutz criticized how the board handled the property being burglarized.

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#2 Mar 26, 2014
The airport only purchased basic insurance policies for the vacant building because the initial plan was to demolish the structure, so when burglars stripped copper from the building last summer, the airport found itself on the hook for the repairs.
Lutz said during the airport board meeting and in a video interview with The Times earlier this month that Dunn then went before the Clinton County Board of Commissioners to request $285,000 for the repairs.
Dunn said such a request simply didn’t happen.
“The commissioners have no oversight over this board,” he said, noting that he provided an update to the commissioners about the airport’s actions, since he serves as one of the county’s three appointees.
Dunn said the airport spent $250,000 on the damaged building “to return it to its former state,” using funds from the $1.6 million bond.
“It’s our money,” he said, distinguishing it from county funds or those held by any other public agency.
“Don’t be saying it’s ‘our money,’” Lutz responded.“It’s taxpayers’ money.”
In subsequent correspondence with The Times, Lutz questioned whether the airport board followed a section of Indiana legal code that requires “local government” entities to report loss or theft of public property.
The law states that such incidents “shall be reported immediately to the state board of accounts.”
Paul Lottes, general counsel for the SBOA, said Wednesday that he can’t provide legal advice to anyone but his clients; he noted, though, that the definition of “local government” in the section of the legal code Lutz cited doesn’t include airport authorities

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#3 Mar 26, 2014
So she doesn't just act like that on here but in public forums as well???

OMG, Lord help us if she gets elected.

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#4 Mar 26, 2014
Please look at the paperwork filed in the Clinton County Recorders Office dated March 7, 2014
There is no Transfer of Deed recorded from
Frankfort/Clinton County Airport Authority to Centurion Solutions, LLC. There is a MEMORANDUM OF LICENSE TO USE and a
MEMORANDUM OF LAND CONTRACT.
Then go to the Clinton County Assessors office. You will find dated March 7,2014
A sales disclosure stating "SALE PRICE" $1,015,000.00. No terms, other than the LAND CONTRACT TERM which is 10 years. Where are the terms? How did the "SALE"? Of this property benifit the taxpayers? Where is the transparency to the taxpayers to the tune of a Municipal Bond they have to pay for at 2.44% interest for 8 years regardless of any sales of said property?

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#5 Mar 27, 2014
Richelle It appears that you have gathered some good information from the SALE to Centurion Solutions LLC. The problem is you are making it out to be a bad thing for YOUR political agenda. since your such a great information gatherer, Go and gather info on how many jobs Centurion Solutions LLC brings to Clinton County and if they have a tax abatement and the taxes they pay into the county. It appears to me that having a 10 year LAND CONTRACT with Centurion Solutions is a good thing because it shows they intend to stay in this GOD forsaken county for at least 10 more years and pay taxes and keep people employed. If the airport would have sold it out right that would allow for Centurion Solutions to just leave and let the building sitting with no due process like the old Brass building that the city had to find a creative way to dispose of.

Since: Sep 11

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#6 Mar 27, 2014
constituant wrote:
Richelle It appears that you have gathered some good information from the SALE to Centurion Solutions LLC. The problem is you are making it out to be a bad thing for YOUR political agenda. since your such a great information gatherer, Go and gather info on how many jobs Centurion Solutions LLC brings to Clinton County and if they have a tax abatement and the taxes they pay into the county. It appears to me that having a 10 year LAND CONTRACT with Centurion Solutions is a good thing because it shows they intend to stay in this GOD forsaken county for at least 10 more years and pay taxes and keep people employed. If the airport would have sold it out right that would allow for Centurion Solutions to just leave and let the building sitting with no due process like the old Brass building that the city had to find a creative way to dispose of.
Centurion Solutions,LLC are bringing no new jobs to Clinton County as, they are an established entity just moving into the NIDEC property for more room. They will hire no new employees. They will continue with the seven that they have. When asked what Centurian would do with the abandoned building at. 689 S Co Rd 200, I got no response. They will receive no tax abatement as, they are an established business. I would venture to say, the extra taxes? It will be a wash with them just moving thus , no extra tax base. Maybe a tad more because the space is bigger. So you are ok with the Airport Aurthoity taking what ever monies they receive from the (Land Contract) and putting them in their general fund. While allowing you taxpayers to continue paying a 1.5 million dollar bond locked for 8 years ? You are ok with the Times making an above the fold announcement that the building was SOLD while, there is a LAMD CONTRACT being held. You are ok with no terms being told to the taxpayers who truly are the investors on this entire venture, while (as was stated) all the revenue from the (Land Contract) goes into the General Fund of the Authority and, you taxpayers keep paying for the bond? Sorry as for me? NO SALE!

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#7 Mar 27, 2014
So, are you saying that a land contract does not constitute a sale? I challenge you to find an attorney or lawyer to take your side in regards to your argument.

Are you also saying that this Centurion Solutions, LLC has no possibility of growing their business and adding employees? I am sure that they would appreciate your vote of confidence in them if they knew of your attitude.

In regards to disputing what the board did, are you disputing the legal guidance of not only Donald Tribbett, Paul Lottes, but the firm of Ice Miller as well? I don't think anyone needs to be reminded of the great legal respect that Ice Miller has in the judicial community.

While some ethics of the board should be questioned, I applauded them for not allowing the building to be torn down. If you think otherwise, might I remind you of the that the new company is building on bean plant road? Also the company that ended up building in Tippecanoe County was looking at a parcel of land on the same road?

Upon reading your many many responses on here I feel confident in saying that you will dispute most if not all of what I have written (that seems to be your SOP) and, that Madame, is your right. But might I suggest you curb your 'holier than thou' attitude that you exemplify only too well.

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#8 Mar 27, 2014
Who has had enough wrote:
So, are you saying that a land contract does not constitute a sale? I challenge you to find an attorney or lawyer to take your side in regards to your argument.
Are you also saying that this Centurion Solutions, LLC has no possibility of growing their business and adding employees? I am sure that they would appreciate your vote of confidence in them if they knew of your attitude.
In regards to disputing what the board did, are you disputing the legal guidance of not only Donald Tribbett, Paul Lottes, but the firm of Ice Miller as well? I don't think anyone needs to be reminded of the great legal respect that Ice Miller has in the judicial community.
While some ethics of the board should be questioned, I applauded them for not allowing the building to be torn down. If you think otherwise, might I remind you of the that the new company is building on bean plant road? Also the company that ended up building in Tippecanoe County was looking at a parcel of land on the same road?
Upon reading your many many responses on here I feel confident in saying that you will dispute most if not all of what I have written (that seems to be your SOP) and, that Madame, is your right. But might I suggest you curb your 'holier than thou' attitude that you exemplify only too well.
. If there is no transfer of deed is there a sale? No holier than thou attitude here. Just looking into what the County "good ol boys" are doing under the guise of " This is good for the taxpayers". While they continue to use taxpayers monies? Why would you bring up a company that ended up building in Tippecanoe County? Like that's my fault? I'm just tired of the "purse holders" of this County spending YOUR money on the guise, it's all better for YOU. While, their answer to transparency is, they posted it in a Newspaper that now, probably circulates to maybe 2,800 subscribers! Is that " Holier than thou " or is it "Wholly wanting the taxpayers to know what is happening with their money"?

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#9 Mar 27, 2014
If you have a loan on a car, or a mortgage on your house, do you get the title or deed? Not until you have met whatever terms that are presented on the documents that you sign. So no, there will be no transfer of deed until the 10 year contract has been completed.

I brought up the Nashan Co to illustrate a point that I obviously missed typing so here it is. Those two companies were looking at parcels on Bean Plant Road and not St Rd 28. Having information about those two companies building sizes showed that currently, no property's in the St Rd 28 industrial park are would fulfill their requirements. So no it's not your fault nor did I insinuate that it was.

The Airport board has held meetings that the public was welcome to attend. You should know that since you attend them. So they are exhibiting some form of transparency and I give them credit for that.

The 'holier than thou' comment is directed towards you. It would be nice if the negative attitude that you exhibit could be toned down a bit and having some positive things to say would go far towards increasing your fan and voter base.

Feel free to put more peanuts and what have you on my posts. I'm perfectly fine with it since so far it has only come from one person multiple times.

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#10 Mar 27, 2014
There is no transfer of deed in a land contract until the contract is fulfilled. In this case it looks like 10 years. Yes it is a legal and binding SALE. Depending on the terms Centurion Solutions will need approval for any alterations and can not sale or default on property without severe financial penalty. Its a SALE with the bank. ie Airport/tax payer having more control than they usually have because they hold significant interest ie DEED.

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#11 Mar 27, 2014
Richelle M Lutz wrote:
<quoted text>. If there is no transfer of deed is there a sale? No holier than thou attitude here. Just looking into what the County "good ol boys" are doing under the guise of " This is good for the taxpayers". While they continue to use taxpayers monies? Why would you bring up a company that ended up building in Tippecanoe County? Like that's my fault? I'm just tired of the "purse holders" of this County spending YOUR money on the guise, it's all better for YOU. While, their answer to transparency is, they posted it in a Newspaper that now, probably circulates to maybe 2,800 subscribers! Is that " Holier than thou " or is it "Wholly wanting the taxpayers to know what is happening with their money"?
Wow... simply wow.

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#12 Mar 27, 2014
Who has had enough wrote:
If you have a loan on a car, or a mortgage on your house, do you get the title or deed? Not until you have met whatever terms that are presented on the documents that you sign. So no, there will be no transfer of deed until the 10 year contract has been completed.
I brought up the Nashan Co to illustrate a point that I obviously missed typing so here it is. Those two companies were looking at parcels on Bean Plant Road and not St Rd 28. Having information about those two companies building sizes showed that currently, no property's in the St Rd 28 industrial park are would fulfill their requirements. So no it's not your fault nor did I insinuate that it was.
The Airport board has held meetings that the public was welcome to attend. You should know that since you attend them. So they are exhibiting some form of transparency and I give them credit for that.
The 'holier than thou' comment is directed towards you. It would be nice if the negative attitude that you exhibit could be toned down a bit and having some positive things to say would go far towards increasing your fan and voter base.
Feel free to put more peanuts and what have you on my posts. I'm perfectly fine with it since so far it has only come from one person multiple times.
Then you do not file a "Sales Disclosure" with the County Assessor stating "SALE AMOUNT $1,015,000.00 and, file no other terms of finance. Unless you are not really caring about your constituents or the taxpayers that have financed this whole deal to begin with. As will continue to finance it for another 6 years at 2.44% Interest. Everyone keeps stating that I am "mean" and "unkind"? Because I care about what the status quo is doing with your and OUR tax monies and stand up and say something about it? An interesting point : When I bring up the thousands that the County Council has been "milked" for by IVY Tech. No one says a word about those statements. However, I read over and over how many of you are in total detest about how much money was given? I think we ALL have said "We are for secondary education in Frankfort, But at What Cost". Many posters will skim right by those remarks that I post just, to tell me how dumb and mean I am?? The info is out there. YOUR tax monies are being used as "OUR MONEY" as Mr Dunn so easily presented it. Do with it what you wish.

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#13 Mar 27, 2014
You might want to take a quick look at this document:

www.forms.in.gov/Download.aspx...

Paying specific attention to page 4 of the pdf. Soecifically, the "Conveyance Document".

What they did is legal, maybe not ethical in the eyes of some, but under Indiana Govt statutes, legal.

This contractual sale is a done deal. Time to move on.

In regards to Ivy Tech, you're kicking a dead dog.

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#14 Mar 27, 2014
The Inquirer wrote:
You might want to take a quick look at this document:
www.forms.in.gov/Download.aspx...
Paying specific attention to page 4 of the pdf. Soecifically, the "Conveyance Document".
What they did is legal, maybe not ethical in the eyes of some, but under Indiana Govt statutes, legal.
This contractual sale is a done deal. Time to move on.
In regards to Ivy Tech, you're kicking a dead dog.
. Lol you send me to a document I hold in my hand. I have never stated they did anything illegal. I have never stated that I could do anything about the hundreds of thousands they gave to IVY Tech. What I have stated is: Mr Dunn called YOUR hard earned and payed tax monies "OUR MONEY" and as a part of the Council did the same with IVY Tech. I continue to bring these things up for 2 reasons. 1. To show just how unethical and non-transparent these officials are.
2. To hopefully work to STOP the bleeding.

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#15 Mar 27, 2014
Richelle M Lutz wrote:
<quoted text> Then you do not file a "Sales Disclosure" with the County Assessor stating "SALE AMOUNT $1,015,000.00 and, file no other terms of finance. Unless you are not really caring about your constituents or the taxpayers that have financed this whole deal to begin with. As will continue to finance it for another 6 years at 2.44% Interest. Everyone keeps stating that I am "mean" and "unkind"? Because I care about what the status quo is doing with your and OUR tax monies and stand up and say something about it? An interesting point : When I bring up the thousands that the County Council has been "milked" for by IVY Tech. No one says a word about those statements. However, I read over and over how many of you are in total detest about how much money was given? I think we ALL have said "We are for secondary education in Frankfort, But at What Cost". Many posters will skim right by those remarks that I post just, to tell me how dumb and mean I am?? The info is out there. YOUR tax monies are being used as "OUR MONEY" as Mr Dunn so easily presented it. Do with it what you wish.
When you quit calling people names and being totally disrespectful to the people who are also "passinate" about this county and trying to do what they see as best, we might give you the same! You offer NOTHING but criticism! When you start telling the "whole" truths on everything you think you know, people might start listening to you. You report all these facts all the time but half of them are incorrect! In your little interview with the Times you say new commissioners went in 2012. wrong! 500,000 plus 285,000 does not equal 725,000. It is always how you report things partially correct and partially incorrect! But you throw it all out like everything out of your mouth is honest and correct! Could NOT be farther from the truth on BOTH! Or maybe its just your attitude! It really stinks. You have to be one of the most unhappy people I have EVER encountered. You have my sympathy but sure not my vote.

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#16 Mar 27, 2014
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<quoted text>When you quit calling people names and being totally disrespectful to the people who are also "passinate" about this county and trying to do what they see as best, we might give you the same! You offer NOTHING but criticism! When you start telling the "whole" truths on everything you think you know, people might start listening to you. You report all these facts all the time but half of them are incorrect! In your little interview with the Times you say new commissioners went in 2012. wrong! 500,000 plus 285,000 does not equal 725,000. It is always how you report things partially correct and partially incorrect! But you throw it all out like everything out of your mouth is honest and correct! Could NOT be farther from the truth on BOTH! Or maybe its just your attitude! It really stinks. You have to be one of the most unhappy people I have EVER encountered. You have my sympathy but sure not my vote.
. You see, this is exactly why the officials are doing what they're doing and taking your money. Rather than consider what's going on in this county, you decide to come in here, with three or four different monikers unregistered and call me out. The new commissioners were elected in November 2012. Everything started from that date to now. Are you trying to tell me you know me personally by saying that I am one of the most unhappy people you have ever encountered? I doubt that as, my true peers do not see that way and/or would have the fortitude to tell me if I were. Why not stop picking apart everything I post and, think about every tax dollar you're paying that is being spent uncontrollably by a panel of seven men who are showing you know transparency or accountability. I know I put my name on for this election and I expected criticism. However, you skip over the info(or pick it apart) and go for the throat with every post. Do you enjoy paying taxes and then having them used as (OUR MONEY)?

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#17 Mar 27, 2014
Can anyone decipher this statement?
“To imply that somehow this board is being unfair to the taxpayers I don’t think is really a question,” he said.“I think it’s a statement, and I don’t even think it’s a fair statement because they are doing exactly what they understand the law to require.” Donald Tribbett, the Boards Attorney. Now we all know they won't lead you astray !(Just make a statement like the best politician you could find)!
"Dunn said the airport board had at least two public hearings prior to finalizing the bond. He noted that the terms of the bond haven’t changed and that the sale will enable the airport to move forward with economic development projects". Since the bond , A fireworks distribution building that is open two weeks a year and employs 6 partime employees for cash. LAND CONTRACT on NIDEC property to CENTURION who in fact is already an existing business with 7 employees. They can't count ConAgra , that was totally a City deal. So in 2 years and a few million dollars, your County Council has gotten you two existing buildings and 13 employees of which 6 only work 1 week a year. Why wait till May 6? Let's vote today! Economic development is booming!

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#18 Mar 28, 2014
Richelle M Lutz wrote:
What I have stated is: Mr Dunn called YOUR hard earned and payed tax monies "OUR MONEY" and as a part of the Council did the same with IVY Tech.
Why are you continuing to harp on the "our money" line? Is Mr. Dunn also a county taxpayer like yourself? If so then his statement is correct.

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#20 Mar 28, 2014
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Why are you continuing to harp on the "our money" line? Is Mr. Dunn also a county taxpayer like yourself? If so then his statement is correct.
I would not "harp" as you say if, Mr Dunn stated in that context. The "OUR" however, was in context to the Airport Authority. The board of 7 using "our" tax monies while continuing to allow us to pay their loans

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#21 Mar 28, 2014
The peoples tax money will never be lowered, you act as if you get elected that I will all of a sudden be given monies. You only become the one now spending our tax dollars. You said giving tax dollars to IVY was foolish, rather you would support special olymics. GOD forbid you get the chance. You said you could work with the mayor in a prior comment, then a few days later in a post on here you make a much different comment. You show me how much my tax responsibility will decrease because you will be elected in dollars. Tell me!!!!!!! You need to be a private investigator not a public official. Good at seeing what happened not good at leadership.

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