Why Can't We Get Our Streets Plowed?

Why Can't We Get Our Streets Plowed?

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ImissPip

Frankfort, IN

#1 Feb 5, 2014
Think the mayor is doing a great job on the streets? Ask any local law enforcement official what they think.
Suggestion

Indianapolis, IN

#2 Feb 5, 2014
Yes, look at the money he is saving,by not putting down any salt or having the street department out plowing.
old man

Indianapolis, IN

#3 Feb 6, 2014
Since when do they not plow alleys that people use to get to their homes and garages? This is crazy! Plant more flowers!!!
fed up

Indianapolis, IN

#4 Feb 6, 2014
because the moron said the alleys belong to property owners and for us to take care of and not the city how stupid does he think the people of frankfort are last time i looked my property ended at the alley what a freakin idiot the mayors is
Punjab is

Michigantown, IN

#5 Feb 6, 2014
State statutes disagree with your Queen Mcbarnes.
AGREE

Frankfort, IN

#6 Feb 6, 2014
Technically as a property owner we all pay taxes to the middle of the street and middle of the alley. However, I do believe that an alley is considered a right of way in which the city has access to so to me this means they should plow it in order to access it. This is unless the alley has been vacated but if this were the case the home owners would have let it go back to grass. Who keeps gravel down for these alleys? I for one am very upset about these streets. The county roads are way better and there are more miles to cover! The street dept should've been out Saturday scooping up the slush during the rain and we wouldn't have all the ice. And then to brag about how much they have saved in overtime...really?!
Punjab is

Michigantown, IN

#7 Feb 6, 2014
From Mcbarnes facebook...

As a friendly reminder: plowing alleyways is the responsibility of homeowners. Street Department crews do not plow alleys.

From the State's book...

IC 36-9-6-2

Supervision of streets, alleys, and city property
Sec. 2. Unless otherwise provided by statute or ordinance, the works board shall supervise the streets, alleys, sewers, public grounds, and other property of the city, and shall keep them in repair and good condition. The works board shall provide for the cleaning of city streets and alleys.

As added by Acts 1981, P.L.309, SEC.79. Amended by Acts 1982, P.L.33, SEC.43.

IC 36-9-6-3
Custody, maintenance, improvement, and construction of city property
Sec. 3.(a) Unless otherwise provided by statute or ordinance, the works board has custody of and may maintain all real and personal property of the city.
(b) A city works board may design, order, contract for, and execute:
(1) all work required to improve or repair any real or personal property that belongs to or is used by the city; and
(2) the erection of all buildings and other structures needed for any public purpose.

Where is Frankfort's Ordinance saying it is not their responsibility to plow alleys?
fed up

Indianapolis, IN

#8 Feb 6, 2014
maybe you should copy this on the mayors facebook page he can read up on who is responsible or maybe he can't read
Punjab is

Michigantown, IN

#9 Feb 6, 2014
Those are the facts...
They cannot be disputed...

If you live in Frankfort, then you can post.
I live in the burbs northeast of Frankfort. My roads are well cared for. That is a result of great county employees whom are loyal to the tax paying citizens.

Your queen, if you live in Frankfort, only has to bow down to her court.
Meg

Frankfort, IN

#10 Feb 7, 2014
fed up wrote:
maybe you should copy this on the mayors facebook page he can read up on who is responsible or maybe he can't read
I did post the state code a few weeks ago. He never responded. Imagine that. The poor little boy is unable to or an original thought or opinion.

The roads are awful. I should not be stuck on ice everytime I come to a stop. I'm tired of seeing the mayor commend the street department for their work. I've yet to see any of their hard work.
L Ledbetter

Noblesville, IN

#11 Feb 9, 2014
When the property tax caps were put into place a few years back local money was cut drastically. This winter has been very expensive for the city and county budgets. I enjoy lower property taxes. This is just one thing I have to deal with for that.
Suggestion

Indianapolis, IN

#12 Feb 9, 2014
They gave a lot of tax payer money to ivy tech though.
Punjab is

Michigantown, IN

#13 Feb 9, 2014
L Ledbetter wrote:
When the property tax caps were put into place a few years back local money was cut drastically. This winter has been very expensive for the city and county budgets. I enjoy lower property taxes. This is just one thing I have to deal with for that.
Are you being serious???

If so, you are so in the minority. There a better places to cut budgets than road care.
Public relations personnel, money to a state funded school facility, and courthouse speaker systems immediately come to mind. Yes I know that not all of the speaker stuff was city driven, but no one told you people about the licensing fees charged yearly for that 17.5 thousand dollar system.
fed up

Indianapolis, IN

#14 Feb 9, 2014
i am glad somebody is keeping imformed about the antics of this mayor of all the stupid stuff that he has done the system on the courthouse is one of the stupidis that has been done and upkeeping the roads is the lowest of lows

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#15 Feb 10, 2014
If the street dept. doesn't plow alleys how is the trash and recyclables getting picked up?
L Ledbetter

Noblesville, IN

#16 Feb 10, 2014
Punjab is wrote:
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Are you being serious???
If so, you are so in the minority. There a better places to cut budgets than road care.
Public relations personnel, money to a state funded school facility, and courthouse speaker systems immediately come to mind. Yes I know that not all of the speaker stuff was city driven, but no one told you people about the licensing fees charged yearly for that 17.5 thousand dollar system.
Punjab,
I have no idea or interest to debate how public money should be allocated but at some point cuts do effect services. Cutting business personal property, right or wrong, will drain local budget even more. At some point you get what you pay for. At some point you can't have it both ways. Funny how everyone wants budget or tax cuts until it effects them. I drive a 4x4 vehicle and didn't have any problems with the plowing of streets. Perhaps you too could make a different choice in vehicle purchase and not rely on the government so much. I love talking like a Republican.
Punjab is

Michigantown, IN

#17 Feb 10, 2014
L Ledbetter wrote:
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Punjab,
I have no idea or interest to debate how public money should be allocated but at some point cuts do effect services. Cutting business personal property, right or wrong, will drain local budget even more. At some point you get what you pay for. At some point you can't have it both ways. Funny how everyone wants budget or tax cuts until it effects them. I drive a 4x4 vehicle and didn't have any problems with the plowing of streets. Perhaps you too could make a different choice in vehicle purchase and not rely on the government so much. I love talking like a Republican.
Then Mr. Ledbetter Republican, perhaps a change in local regulations in regards to plowing the alleys. The state says it's the board of works problem, at least according to other posts I have seen on here quoting the mandates or whatever you choose to call them.

This has nothing to do with cutting taxes right now,sir. This budget was designed and voted on last year, so that's a moot point. We have already paid for this year's services.

What it does have to do with is following the rules, and your republican mayor isn't doing that.

Since: Jul 10

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#18 Feb 11, 2014
Punjab is wrote:
We have already paid for this year's services.
You don't live in the city of Frankfort. You haven't paid for anything.
Punjab is

Michigantown, IN

#19 Feb 11, 2014
punjab wrote:
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You don't live in the city of Frankfort. You haven't paid for anything.
Wrongo Franky...

So sorry you can't recall the conversation we had about his very issue.

Since: Jul 10

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#20 Feb 11, 2014
Punjab is wrote:
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Wrongo Franky...
So sorry you can't recall the conversation we had about his very issue.
Yeah, I've slept since then.

Forgot you were a Frankfort slum lord.

So what do you think about the article in today's Frankfort Times about the FPD ticketing and possibly towing cars parked on city streets for violating an obscure, unadvertised, and up until now mostly unenforced city ordnance limiting street parking on ALL city streets to 2 hours?

Doesn't that harm your tenants since your hovels don't have off-street parking?

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