Doylestown Investment Group closes office

Aug 6, 2008 Full story: Intelligencer News 20

A Doylestown developer who spent millions of dollars of other people's money buying, rehabilitating, building and selling borough properties has closed up shop.

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don

Doylestown, PA

#1 Aug 17, 2008
what up with the rare steakhouse now
Wow

United States

#2 Nov 5, 2008
Roman and Pat are crooks, I know them well enough and had business dealings with them myself for quite sometime. The amount of money I lost is insignificant in comparison to what these other people were robbed of.
secret

Doylestown, PA

#3 May 14, 2009
listen people should find out facts before they judge being someone who knows both rowman and pat pat did nothing wrong. rowman kept things from pat. now they both have to move out of their houses and im not just saying its rowman and pats fault it is also the businesses that decided to get involved with them. they should have put into factor that something could have gone wrong. and its not like pat put the money for personal things he didnt. i really dont know what rowman did because he just is not a nice person to begin with
secret

Doylestown, PA

#4 May 14, 2009
Wow wrote:
Roman and Pat are crooks, I know them well enough and had business dealings with them myself for quite sometime. The amount of money I lost is insignificant in comparison to what these other people were robbed of.
listenn you really dont know them that well unless you tell me that you are a family member of one of them
Wow

United States

#5 Mar 14, 2010
Secret, I really really really DO know them. Anyone that believes that Pat didn't have full and express knowledge of the situation is an IDIOT. Do you really think that Pat didn't know that 6 East Court Street sold and they did not pay the investors? Pat is just as guilty as Roman, not an ounce less.
secret

Levittown, PA

#6 Aug 6, 2010
Wow wrote:
Secret, I really really really DO know them. Anyone that believes that Pat didn't have full and express knowledge of the situation is an IDIOT. Do you really think that Pat didn't know that 6 East Court Street sold and they did not pay the investors? Pat is just as guilty as Roman, not an ounce less.
ok i am not saying that pat didnt know any of the things that happened and unfortunatly you dont know them as much as i do i have known both of them for over ten to fifteen years.. roman did hide things from pat. you can believe it or not. i really dont care what you believe ther is evidence that will show proff of what happend. roman was and still is a scum bag and not worth talking about. now if you want to say something nice i will hear it but you are not a judge and you are not involved in the hearing and roman didnt get what he desearved and just think of how roman and especially pats family feels. roman was pats boss and hid almost everything from pat. the things that he showed pat were all lies and were not the truth.. stop being a jerk dont judge people when you really dont know them and dont think that your opion matters to anyone when all you doing is being a jerk about it. i am sorry if you are hurt and i know pat didnt mean to hurt you so get the fuck over it
Scammedbydig

Doylestown, PA

#7 Aug 14, 2010
Pat is as much to blame as Roman. While Pat isn't smart enough to have come up with this on his own, he was the "face " of the group and went into his friend's home and outright lied to their faces while taking their money. If he was "so innocent" why did he come to a group of us and ask for short term loans, promising quick returns to get through the next deal, knowing full well the ship was sinking. Enough bad things can't happen to either of them. At one point, I did have some sympathy for their families, but not now. They never gave a second thought to ours! The worse part is once they get out of jail, they will grab all the money they stole that they have hidden in Dubai.
secret wrote:
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ok i am not saying that pat didnt know any of the things that happened and unfortunatly you dont know them as much as i do i have known both of them for over ten to fifteen years.. roman did hide things from pat. you can believe it or not. i really dont care what you believe ther is evidence that will show proff of what happend. roman was and still is a scum bag and not worth talking about. now if you want to say something nice i will hear it but you are not a judge and you are not involved in the hearing and roman didnt get what he desearved and just think of how roman and especially pats family feels. roman was pats boss and hid almost everything from pat. the things that he showed pat were all lies and were not the truth.. stop being a jerk dont judge people when you really dont know them and dont think that your opion matters to anyone when all you doing is being a jerk about it. i am sorry if you are hurt and i know pat didnt mean to hurt you so get the fuck over it
secret

Levittown, PA

#8 Nov 1, 2010
and if this is horbus go to hell
Secret

Philadelphia, PA

#9 Mar 15, 2011
Ok so for those of u who dont know in court they said pat had limited role in all deals even the 6 east court street project... Fitzmartain used kelly... Pat had to inveat own money to keep his job... And went bankrupped.. He doesnt blame rowman he took his fault and is moving on... And horbus if thi is you go to hell. U were obviously not a true friemd fiends for give eachother and actually care abot what happens to your friends. Believe it or not I know you have.meet you you danced with me at pat and lizs wedding I used to like you but go to hell... Your a dick put your self in pat and his family shoes
Scammedbydig

Doylestown, PA

#10 Apr 29, 2011
I am guessing "secret" is a family member of Pat's and is holding his money for him until he gets out of jail. As I said, Pat was never smart enough to come up with this on his own. He was the one who did come to his friends and lie straight to their faces as he was stealing their money. If he was such a good friend, why did he steal money from 2 foundations he was on the board, including one for his "friend" whose parents had died? As for his family, "f" them. He didn't care enough about them or ours as he was committing this fraud.
Secret

Southampton, PA

#11 Oct 28, 2011
Listen u say u know roman an spat and obviously don't.. As for being a family member I am not.. I do know that him and his family have no money. And if you know pat well enough you would know that it is unlike him to have ever done that. If you did it to him he would have forgiven you for it already. Also if he was home and working he would be paying you back. Another thing is that he was put in a postion of either doing what he did not knowing how bad the money situation was or losing his job. How could he lose his job while having a family. Just grow up don't hole grudges forgive and forget.. Money can't buy you life, family true friends which pat is, and money sure can't buy you true happiness. I will say pat made a mistake in judgement but no one is perfect people make mistakes that what life is about. I feel bad for you all who are holding judgement and a grudge instead of forgiving honestly it wi help yoube less stressed and angry. There are poeple worse off then I am sure you are. Also as for the friend with the parents who died I'm sure pat was at the funeral/ memorial and I'm sure he was there for you in that hard time. So if you were ever a true friend to him you should be there for pat.. Also I'm sure if u were in pats shoes you would mostlikely have done the same thing. As for not feeling sorry for his family. He had three young children what would u think if your children were in that situation so think before speaking. I'm sure pat has helped you through out your friendship and been there for you.. Well obviously pay is more real and true person you will ever be.. Go to hell get a life worry about your family stop waisting time talking bad about someone when u point a finger look at what direction your other fingers are pointing. You have no right to judge anyone but yourself. if you dont forgive you will regret it later grow up check your self before looking and judging others. Thanks. Also don't start with me about oats family it will not end very well for you.. By the way if you were apoarently a friend to pay before ad you think I'm a family member why not tell me who you are. That's right cause you can't handle what someone friend family stranger of pat would say.
Scammedbydig wrote:
I am guessing "secret" is a family member of Pat's and is holding his money for him until he gets out of jail. As I said, Pat was never smart enough to come up with this on his own. He was the one who did come to his friends and lie straight to their faces as he was stealing their money. If he was such a good friend, why did he steal money from 2 foundations he was on the board, including one for his "friend" whose parents had died? As for his family, "f" them. He didn't care enough about them or ours as he was committing this fraud.
Secret

Southampton, PA

#12 Oct 28, 2011
They hid no money they have no money it all went back to state. also incase you don't know how it works you guys will mostlikely be te last people to get your money back sorry to say.. If moneys what your worried about go play lottery you would probably win that sooner
yeah ok

Jamison, PA

#13 Sep 6, 2012
whatever
Reason

New Hope, PA

#14 Jan 31, 2013
Does anyone know where these two criminals are today? I just watched an episode of American Greed Scams and thoughts of these guys ripping off 40K from my family rose to the surface. Just curious as to there whereabouts, II did a google search and up came this. I hope that Secrete has taken a few basic grammar courses since these posts...
scammedbydig

Doylestown, PA

#15 Apr 17, 2013
These pieces of $#!+ are both out of jail. I see Roman all the time in the YMCA in Doylestown. Not sure where Pat is, heard he is living with his inlaws. Guess they are just biding their time until the can safely get their money they stole from everyone.
Sheik Yerbouti

New Hope, PA

#16 Apr 18, 2013
Sounds like they should serve LONG prison sentences along with forfeiture of all their assets.
reality sux

Hazleton, PA

#17 Jun 8, 2013
Sheik Yerbouti wrote:
Sounds like they should serve LONG prison sentences along with forfeiture of all their assets.
They only have to worry about US assets and nobody really invests in US anything anymore. Expect never to see that money only the bare minimum in restitution.
reality sux

Hazleton, PA

#18 Jun 8, 2013
secret wrote:
listen people should find out facts before they judge being someone who knows both rowman and pat pat did nothing wrong. rowman kept things from pat. now they both have to move out of their houses and im not just saying its rowman and pats fault it is also the businesses that decided to get involved with them. they should have put into factor that something could have gone wrong. and its not like pat put the money for personal things he didnt. i really dont know what rowman did because he just is not a nice person to begin with
LOL you look like a gaping a-hole now don't you.
reality sux

Hazleton, PA

#19 Jun 8, 2013
secret wrote:
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listenn you really dont know them that well unless you tell me that you are a family member of one of them
You sure were trying to find out who was leaking info.
reality sux

Hazleton, PA

#20 Jun 8, 2013
scammedbydig wrote:
These pieces of $#!+ are both out of jail. I see Roman all the time in the YMCA in Doylestown. Not sure where Pat is, heard he is living with his inlaws. Guess they are just biding their time until the can safely get their money they stole from everyone.
They have it hidden offshore, but most offshore countries comply in asset freezing by the US for terrorism, drug dealing and thefts. So these two are probably looking for a third party to move their assets for them. Somebody that won't steal their heist from them.

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