Scouts may lift ban on gays

Scouts may lift ban on gays

There are 596 comments on the The Indianapolis Star story from Jan 29, 2013, titled Scouts may lift ban on gays. In it, The Indianapolis Star reports that:

The Boy Scouts of America is considering lifting its ban on gay Scouts and troop leaders, but to what extent the decision would have an impact in Indiana is unclear.

Join the discussion below, or Read more at The Indianapolis Star.

“ reality, what a concept”

Since: Nov 07

this one

#209 Feb 4, 2013
Truth-Hurts wrote:
Children who just happen to be male or males who just happen to be children/easy prey? "Roughly 2/3 of the men who sexually abuse boys identify as heterosexual and have a sexual history with other adults that backs that up." OK...Elton John was married to a woman, having a sexual history to back it up. At that point in his life he was living a hetero lifestyle until the magic moment he realized he was gay. Meredith Baxter, she was married many times with 5 kids, living the hetero lifestyle with a sexual history to back it up...she's now gay. There's many many more. I'm not saying these individuals are pedos but to say pedos who abuse children of the same sex aren't "secretly homo" is ridiculous.
Why would this concept be so difficult for you to grasp? Being sexual with someone of the same sex is no more proof of one's "homosexuality" than being sexual with someone of the opposite sex is proof of one's "heterosexuality". Like I told you before, I have thirty years of empirically proved science to back up what I have been saying, all you have offered me to disprove that is the incredibly misinformed notion that same sex sex is proof of same sex attraction. YOU and idiots like you are why so many young boys are sexually abused each year, because you are fixated on gay and not looking out for completely heterosexual monsters. You have no shame, lying to children and endangering them for no other reason than you choose to have "issues" with gay folk.
weird bob

United States

#210 Feb 4, 2013
Does anyone want to have sex with me.
Truth-Hurts

Terre Haute, IN

#211 Feb 4, 2013
Rick in Kansas wrote:
<quoted text>Why would this concept be so difficult for you to grasp? Being sexual with someone of the same sex is no more proof of one's "homosexuality" than being sexual with someone of the opposite sex is proof of one's "heterosexuality". Like I told you before, I have thirty years of empirically proved science to back up what I have been saying, all you have offered me to disprove that is the incredibly misinformed notion that same sex sex is proof of same sex attraction. YOU and idiots like you are why so many young boys are sexually abused each year, because you are fixated on gay and not looking out for completely heterosexual monsters. You have no shame, lying to children and endangering them for no other reason than you choose to have "issues" with gay folk.
Same sex sex has to involve a same sex attraction or it wouldn't happen. It's difficult for me to grasp because I'm married to a straight man, who even the thought of a penis in his mouth would be repulsive resulting in vomit and to abuse a child would end in death. I don't care how many years you've been taking it in the ass in order to come to your scientific findings (invest in depends). You can call me an idiot all you want, it's what YOU and people like YOU do when someone disagrees with you. Any "heterosexual" male monster would be going after little girls, heteros aren't into penises. Could it be gay males have a hard time grasping that notion?
Questioning

Louisville, KY

#212 Feb 4, 2013
What? I call BS. Being sexual with anyone of the same sex IS homosexuality. No one "ventures over the line" without there existing a predisposition of homosexuality. Bi sexuals are individuals simply lacking commitment or are confused, but the homosexual inclination is none the less present. I may accept that my kid may have been threatened by a hereosexual predator, but I'm inclined to believe that a homosexual threat with a kid of the same sex is more likely. Possibly not predatory, but definately influential. Interested in helping one to "explore" another way. I'm steadfast in the belief that my son was most definately more vulnerable in the men's room at the ball game than in the classroom, or in the women's restroom for that matter. No one in latter places were trying to help my son "examine other possibilities? Do I believe that if my son were to visit a gay bar that he would be preyed upon? Like a gazelle in the Serengeti. As I would discourage someone from permitting thier kid to be mentored by a drug dealer, I would also discourage that they be mentored by a same sex homosexual. That wouldn't make me an "idiot", that would make me a protector. Oh, over fifty years experience here. I know better than to drink the koolaid. Or to have allowed someone to "teach" mine as to how "great" it is. I don't know of any heterosexuals that work so hard to impress homosexuals how "great" heterosexuality is. I don't quite follow why it is so important for the gay community to do so. Other than to strengthen the ranks. I've no need for a parade or community event to proclaim my sexuality. Why? Because it is accepted, it is normal, it is as it was anatomically planned. No one can deny the structural accomodations, regardless of thier interpretations. Stairs are designed to be walked up or down. Not driven upon. Common sense.
Blair

Santa Clara, CA

#213 Feb 4, 2013
Gay Sexual Practices Lead to Uptick in Disease

>
FECAL SEX About 80% of gays admit to licking and/or inserting their tongues into the anus of partners and thus ingesting medically significant amounts of feces. Those who eat or wallow in it are probably at even greater risk. In the diary study,5 70% of the gays had engaged in this activity--half regularly over 6 months. Result?--the "annual incidence of hepatitis A in...homosexual men was 22 percent, whereas no heterosexual men acquired hepatitis A." In 1992,26 it was noted that the proportion of gays engaging in oral/anal sex had not declined.

>

Gay Men and Shigellosis
What is Shigellosis?
Shigellosis is a disease that causes stomach cramps, fever, diarrhea and sometimes bloody diarrhea.
What causes Shigellosis?
Shigellosis is caused by the Shigella bacterium. Shigella is found in feces (shit).
Who gets it?
Anyone can get Shigellosis. Gay men get Shigellosis at higher rates than others. People with a weakened immune
system get more sick than others.
How do you get it?
You can get Shigellosis when feces comes in contact with your mouth. This can happen with oral/anal sex play. This
can happen when you use your fingers or hand for anal sex play and then touch your mouth. Even microscopic
amounts of feces that get into your mouth can cause Shigellosis.
How can I avoid Shigella?
Play safely. In addition to safe sex guidelines to prevent HIV, maintain good hygiene. Wash every
part of your body that is sexual with soap and water before, after and between sex play. Use condoms
or other kinds of barriers like dental dams, latex gloves or plastic wrap and be aware of
what body parts may have come into contact with feces during sex play. Wash them with soap
and water. Use condoms with sex toys, and discard the condoms after use.
What do I do if I think I have Shigellosis?
• If you think you have Shigellosis, see your doctor.
• Inform your partners.
• Wash your hands a lot.
• Don’t have sex until 7 days after symptoms end.
• Talk with a medical provider about what you can do to reduce your risk.
publichealth.lacounty.gov/acd/docs/Shigellosi...

“Alley Cat Blues”

Since: Sep 08

Location hidden

#214 Feb 4, 2013
Truth-Hurts wrote:
<quoted text>Same sex sex has to involve a same sex attraction or it wouldn't happen. It's difficult for me to grasp because I'm married to a straight man, who even the thought of a penis in his mouth would be repulsive resulting in vomit and to abuse a child would end in death. I don't care how many years you've been taking it in the ass in order to come to your scientific findings (invest in depends). You can call me an idiot all you want, it's what YOU and people like YOU do when someone disagrees with you. Any "heterosexual" male monster would be going after little girls, heteros aren't into penises. Could it be gay males have a hard time grasping that notion?
You don't understand the nature of pedophilia; it's not an attraction to the opposite or same sex; it's a sexual attraction to children in general.
Truth-Hurts

Terre Haute, IN

#215 Feb 4, 2013
Blair wrote:
Gay Sexual Practices Lead to Uptick in Disease
>
FECAL SEX About 80% of gays admit to licking and/or inserting their tongues into the anus of partners and thus ingesting medically significant amounts of feces. Those who eat or wallow in it are probably at even greater risk. In the diary study,5 70% of the gays had engaged in this activity--half regularly over 6 months. Result?--the "annual incidence of hepatitis A in...homosexual men was 22 percent, whereas no heterosexual men acquired hepatitis A." In 1992,26 it was noted that the proportion of gays engaging in oral/anal sex had not declined.
>
Gay Men and Shigellosis
What is Shigellosis?
Shigellosis is a disease that causes stomach cramps, fever, diarrhea and sometimes bloody diarrhea.
What causes Shigellosis?
Shigellosis is caused by the Shigella bacterium. Shigella is found in feces (shit).
Who gets it?
Anyone can get Shigellosis. Gay men get Shigellosis at higher rates than others. People with a weakened immune
system get more sick than others.
How do you get it?
You can get Shigellosis when feces comes in contact with your mouth. This can happen with oral/anal sex play. This
can happen when you use your fingers or hand for anal sex play and then touch your mouth. Even microscopic
amounts of feces that get into your mouth can cause Shigellosis.
How can I avoid Shigella?
Play safely. In addition to safe sex guidelines to prevent HIV, maintain good hygiene. Wash every
part of your body that is sexual with soap and water before, after and between sex play. Use condoms
or other kinds of barriers like dental dams, latex gloves or plastic wrap and be aware of
what body parts may have come into contact with feces during sex play. Wash them with soap
and water. Use condoms with sex toys, and discard the condoms after use.
What do I do if I think I have Shigellosis?
• If you think you have Shigellosis, see your doctor.
• Inform your partners.
• Wash your hands a lot.
• Don’t have sex until 7 days after symptoms end.
• Talk with a medical provider about what you can do to reduce your risk.
publichealth.lacounty.gov/acd/docs/Shigellosi...
Looks like they need to add a new chapter to the boy scout handbook.
Truth-Hurts

Terre Haute, IN

#216 Feb 4, 2013
Jupiter wrote:
<quoted text>
You don't understand the nature of pedophilia; it's not an attraction to the opposite or same sex; it's a sexual attraction to children in general.
I understand completely, the gay community would rather try to make the argument that pedos see children as objects instead of people with gender. That way it excuses the high ratio of "male-male molestation" as just a part of generalized pedophilia. I get it.

“Alley Cat Blues”

Since: Sep 08

Location hidden

#217 Feb 4, 2013
Truth-Hurts wrote:
<quoted text>I understand completely, the gay community would rather try to make the argument that pedos see children as objects instead of people with gender. That way it excuses the high ratio of "male-male molestation" as just a part of generalized pedophilia. I get it.
You're delusional. Homosexuals are not necessarily pedophiles, any more than heterosexuals are. Both groups have pedophiles, but that doesn't mean eveyone in the group is a pedophile. You just want to hate gay people and don't want to listen to a reasonable argument. I feel sorry for you.
Momma

Crawfordsville, IN

#219 Feb 4, 2013
Rick in Kansas wrote:
<quoted text>Why would this concept be so difficult for you to grasp? Being sexual with someone of the same sex is no more proof of one's "homosexuality" than being sexual with someone of the opposite sex is proof of one's "heterosexuality". Like I told you before, I have thirty years of empirically proved science to back up what I have been saying, all you have offered me to disprove that is the incredibly misinformed notion that same sex sex is proof of same sex attraction. YOU and idiots like you are why so many young boys are sexually abused each year, because you are fixated on gay and not looking out for completely heterosexual monsters. You have no shame, lying to children and endangering them for no other reason than you choose to have "issues" with gay folk.
We all know that some researchers, therapists and psychoanalysts have manipulated patients into fitting the desired data. We all know that some have even used patients sexually and emotionally to suit their perverted tendencies. We know this "empirically" because its been reported for years. The data that they are presenting as truth is tainted at best.
Sex between Man-Man, Woman-Woman is HOMO as in same sex. That's what the prefix homo means *SAME*. Sex between Man-Child, Woman-Child is pure perversion and if a man likes a little boys equipment he's a homosexual. Women who target girls are also homo predators.. Just because an adult marries and attempts to carry on a 'normal' life doesn't make him/her heterosexual, it only makes him/her an imposter.
Vito

Phoenix, AZ

#220 Feb 4, 2013
Brenda Lee Johnson wrote:

No the numbers of Gays are not increasing among our youth but an attitude of indifference toward morality. Thus one of the reasons for Gay attacks on Christianity.
There are people who claim to have had sex with Gays for money but are not interested otherwise.
That is a break down in morality.That same break down pushes the acceptance of homosexuality. The worst enemy Gays have is mother nature and the science that points out that homosexuality is perversion, but as you can see science can be silenced by Christianity can not.
I doubt the number of Gays within any particular group of people has ever exceeded much more than 2-3% of the population, they are more visible because the population is growing

Since: Nov 12

Location hidden

#221 Feb 4, 2013
....ahhh,The Forbidden Fruit ....
Truth-Hurts

Terre Haute, IN

#222 Feb 4, 2013
Momma wrote:
<quoted text>
We all know that some researchers, therapists and psychoanalysts have manipulated patients into fitting the desired data. We all know that some have even used patients sexually and emotionally to suit their perverted tendencies. We know this "empirically" because its been reported for years. The data that they are presenting as truth is tainted at best.
Sex between Man-Man, Woman-Woman is HOMO as in same sex. That's what the prefix homo means *SAME*. Sex between Man-Child, Woman-Child is pure perversion and if a man likes a little boys equipment he's a homosexual. Women who target girls are also homo predators.. Just because an adult marries and attempts to carry on a 'normal' life doesn't make him/her heterosexual, it only makes him/her an imposter.
Don't bother trying to explain the definition of HOMO it just falls on deaf ears. I'm beyond tired of trying to explain the manipulation of researchers and terminology. I'd stop posting if it wasn't for the fact I was turned into the moderators when the most profane or offensive word I used was "a$$". LMAO So just because someone tried to shut me up...I'll keep going.:)
Granny

United States

#223 Feb 4, 2013
Why is sexuality even an issue with the scouts? Color isn't, religion isn't, why is sex?
Truth-Hurts

Terre Haute, IN

#224 Feb 4, 2013
Jupiter wrote:
<quoted text>
You're delusional. You just want to hate gay people and don't want to listen to a reasonable argument. I feel sorry for you.
There are many lifestyles I disagree with, it doesn't mean I HATE them. "HATE" is a pretty strong word. Why go to such an extreme when someone disagrees with you? That doesn't seem "reasonable" to me. As for my openness to a reasonable argument, I've yet to hear one. Why would I listen to someone tell me the definition of "homo" doesn't mean "same". Or how it's definition somehow changes just because a child is involved. It's not a sensible argument.
Truth Hurts Original

Terre Haute, IN

#225 Feb 4, 2013
Must be an awful lot of us "Truth Hurts" types in Terrible Haute. Not many stand up for truth and integrity here. Morals or decency either. Whatever is sick, demented, perverted or corrupt is allowed and supported here.
Truth-Hurts

Terre Haute, IN

#226 Feb 4, 2013
Granny wrote:
Why is sexuality even an issue with the scouts? Color isn't, religion isn't, why is sex?
Color isn't an issue because it's about character and character building. As for religion, like it or not, it was founded on Christianity. They even have a scouts prayer book.

Their oath states...

On my honor I will do my best
To do my duty to God and my country
and to obey the Scout Law;
To help other people at all times;
To keep myself physically strong,
mentally awake, and morally straight.

The Boy Scouts of America (BSA), one of the largest private youth organizations in the United States, has policies which prohibit atheists, agnostics and "open or avowed" homosexual people from membership in its Scouting program as directly violating its fundamental principles and tenets. BSA has denied or revoked membership status or leadership positions for violation of these foundational principles.
The BSA contends that these policies are essential in its mission to instill in young people the values of the Scout Oath and Law.

It is what it is...

Papaw

Clinton, IN

#227 Feb 4, 2013
Just for the sake of clarification:
Per Dictionary.com
homo-
a combining form appearing in loanwords from Greek, where it meant “same”( homology ); on this model, used in the formation of compound words ( homomorphic ).

Also, especially before a vowel, hom-.

Origin:
< Greek, combining form of homós one and the same; akin to Sanskrit sama-; see same
Questioning

Louisville, KY

#228 Feb 4, 2013
I am in agreement. Homosexuality does not predispose one to pedophilia. With that said, many gay males, not unlike many hetero males, do target "the young ones". My son was threatened in the "men's room" by hetero males. He didn't go into the "women's rooms". So, where is the biggest threat to kids? Where same sex older persons are present. Now, let's send them to camp. I call BS.
Questioning

Louisville, KY

#229 Feb 4, 2013
It's like this, if a male, regardless of proclamation, is "turned on" by a sexually equivalent person, then that is homosexuality. Regardless of age, race, origion or otherwise. No one needs to have thier eleven year old looked upon as a "score". Despite the "buddy up" rule. That protects no one, but the predator, if both are predators. Gay men and male children do not belong isolated together. Period.

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