Hamilton County Jail inmate dies

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Authorites have scheduled an autopsy today for a Hamilton County Jail inmate who was pronounced dead after correction officers found him lying unconscious in his cellblock.

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Did some time there

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#480
Feb 28, 2008
 
Nobletuckian wrote:
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If you've never been there, then shut up already. I'm sure I'd find it a little hard to put up with some of the shenanigans and cr*p that they (I assume you meant the guards by your "they") probably have to put up with. And I'd probably be a little rude and ill-mannered with some of those prisoners, too.
Well, I WAS there and considering I was only there for 2 weeks, it wasn't that bad. Now if I had been there for, let's say, 4-5 months like some of the guys.

The food wasn't bad, it wasn't great but I was never hungry, plus one could supplement with commisary. Ramen soups are traded as currency inside. I was able to sleep as much as I wanted whenever I wanted (if I could tolerate the noise). I read everything in sight, didn't get to listen to music other than see Ringo on Rachel Rays' show (awesome!) and didn't get to watch much TV. The biggest problem in there amongst the MANY intelligent people I met in there was boredom. But as I said, I was only there for two weeks and it flew by like a vacation........a sabbatical..........a retreat. HAHA!!!

Every inmate told me that HCJ is much better than MCJ (foodwise).........and let me tell you, the food is the most important thing when you're in jail.
Did some time there

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#481
Feb 28, 2008
 
Public Servant wrote:
<quoted text> Oh...but they will. Blame anyone but the responsible party.
I'm only on page one of this thread.......I looked for it because I was there. I hope the other twenty-some pages aren't filled with your stupidity.

I already explained what happened. I actually think that there is grounds for a major lawsuit here but stuff that happens inside of jails rarely sees the outside world, thanks partially to people like you who don't GAF.

If the guy is a crackhead, that's one issue. If he got caught and was in jail, that's another. But to have a heart attack in jail and not get any treatment for it until it was too late? Everyone deserves better than that, no matter how "low" in your imperious eyes.

What would you say if that happened to a relative of yours or someone you knew and loved?
Did some time there

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#482
Feb 28, 2008
 
just wondering wrote:
You know - jail should be rude, scary, have bad food and be uncomfortable. It is a punishment until if you are proven guilty.
You don't want to make jail "fun" and have great food and service! Otherwise you get people breaking the law just to get in to have better living conditions than they can support for themselves; then, tax payers pay for their lifestyle - which should not be better than those living on minimum wage!
Again, another stupid post. Again, your "punishment" is being deprived of your freedom, not to be subjected to humiliation or starvation. While you have LESS rights in jail, it doesn't mean that you have NO rights.

Furthermore, since guards are UNARMED, a sophisticated system of rewards and punishments are at play here. You give the prisoners enough to behave with the option of revoking privilege should they not. The guards at the HCJ allowed us to watch the entire Super Bowl, a gesture that was much appreciated by the inmates.
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#483
Feb 28, 2008
 
Lisa Marie wrote:
I find it hard to believe that this is causing so much hate among people who dont even know each other. By giving your opinion you open yourself to personal attack. I dont believe this is right. Does anyone who is speaking negatively about this man know anything of him? He is a human and no one deserves to be treated this way. He might be dead but he has family and friends. I pray for them.
Welcome to Central Indiana. Some of the most self-aggrandizing, self-righteous people in the world. These people have never heard the expression "There, but for the grace of God, go I."

These idiots think so highly of themselves, they turn every thread into a disposition about how THEY do everything correctly and by the book.

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Feb 28, 2008
 
Did some time there wrote:
I recently did two weeks in the cell block that the man died in. I found out about it while I was there.
First of all, they had no trained medical staff on hand to perform CPR (evidently this is common there). Two guards came in to try to revive him (by slapping his face) then they called 911 (there's a fire station across the street), then they cancelled the call, then they called again. When the guards tried to use a difibrulator on him, they found out that the batteries were dead. EMTs showed up a half-hour after his heart attack, he was already turnig blue.
BTW, almost everyone in there was in on probation violation or minor traffic offenses. I did 15 days for DWS. In any other county I would have never seen the inside of a jail cell. Oh, HCJ is privatized and gets $140 per inmate per day. My cell block (A for those who are curious) is built for 48 people yet there were 70 people in there the entire time I was there. That's $10,000 a day just for that cell block.
$10K per day and they can't even keep the difibrullator charged.....
Thats kind of crazy, did they build a fire station across the street since 3 o'clock today or was there a twilight zoneish one while you were being housed in HCJ?
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#485
Feb 29, 2008
 
NoseyLikeYou wrote:
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Thats kind of crazy, did they build a fire station across the street since 3 o'clock today or was there a twilight zoneish one while you were being housed in HCJ?
It's a funny thing, when you're in the jail, you can't see outside. The fire station is evidently on 191st Street, about 10 blocks away. Thanks for pointing that out to me.
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#486
Mar 1, 2008
 
Did some time there wrote:
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It's a funny thing, when you're in the jail, you can't see outside. The fire station is evidently on 191st Street, about 10 blocks away. Thanks for pointing that out to me.
Hey KJ!
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Mar 1, 2008
 
My condolences to his friends and family.
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#488
Mar 6, 2008
 
HEY!! I work in the EMS feild and i am sorry to say the way people judge others is so wrong. VERY WRONG. I have been in some MAX facilties hard core guys are locked in there But I have never once walked in to a call that I judged one of my Patients. YES they are someones son brother husband or father yeah they did make some wrong choices. But there families did not Make those chioces and they feel the loose so to say good someone has died is SOO WRONG I would like to see these kind of rude comments fade away in this world just maybe we could solve some of our issues. AND YEAH I work with the POLICE others YES THEY DO JUDGE YEAH SOME DO GO OUT OF THERE WAY TO Just cause extra pain hardship to others and its wrong. I went to Jail once for an unpaid seat belt ticket forgot all about it six months after i got it i was stopped for a traffic voliation taken to JAIL it was dirty nasty smelly roten place to be all together i was there about 4 half hours paid my fines and was released but I wouldnt allow my pretty little dog to spend the night there. YEah some do real crimes they need to be taken out of the real world for but humans should be treated with respect at all times the old saying goes you get along ways with a little surgar if the one is jail cant behave who is he or she hurting NO ONE BUT THEMSELFS but Police officers should take there PRIDE in there Uniform and offer respect back even if they dont get it he or she gets to go home at the end of there shift and just maybe be kind and respectful to those locked up might just reach someone.. JUST HOW MUCH does the system work with those that has done major wrongs to be able to live outside with us NOT MUCH its said WE spend more money training our dogs then we do to retrain those that cant live out in the real world SO PLEASE befor posting negitve comments think of the families that feel the pain ... if that was your child youd still love him or her no matter what. MY THOSE WITH NEGTIVE THOUGTHS SEE HOW NEGTIVE THERE LIFE IS. Take care
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#489
Sep 7, 2008
 
As a person who was in jail at the same time of this inmates death, I can personally say that there was gross mistreatment of the situation when this prisoner died. Not only was he not found unconscience in his cell, he fell and smacked his head on the concrete so hard that it made a resounding thud throughout the cell block. I stoof approximately 5 ft. away from this gentlemen while jail workers "did there best" to try and help him. This is a drastic misuse of words. It took me telling the correctional officers how to correctly administer c.p.r. for them to do it. Also, all of the c.o.'s walked around throughout the course of the situation with not a single sense of urgency. I was later explained by the jail commander himself that this is protocol. Upon being called on one of the cell block communication boxes, the c.o.'s are to walk into the block and "asses" the situation, then react. This is in clear disaggreance with what all of the prisoners were told about the victim. We were briefed approx. 4 days later that Steven Christ was dead when he hit the floor due to a massive heart attack. If this is true, and it wasnt in fact due to the poorly trained jail staff, then why would you not come into the cell block, asses that situation, and get a sense of urgency in your gate. Every single inmate was pulled out of the block the evening this happened and we were all individually questioned by investigators. Nothing ever came of any of it. The entire time we were being interviewed, two at a time mind you, the investigators were very quick to push there opinion on the inmates versus listening to what we had to say. Myself, being a faily intelligent human being, refused to have my story corrupted by someone who was simply there to try and save the jail's ass from a very big legal situation. In closing, I would like to let everyone know that this gentleman did NOT have to die, he did not have to spend his last day in jail, yes he was a drug addict but that is not why he died. Just because you are a prisoner, while yes that does entitle you to have some of your rights stripped from you, it should never take away the opportunity to be enveloped in a system that will AT LEAST provide you with proper medical attention.
John

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#490
Jan 6, 2009
 
Having frequented many of our State's county jails (Hamilton county included) and several IDOC facilities, I can say that Hamilton county is one of the nicer facilities you can stay in. That said, I also have numerous health problems that are in need of constant medical care. Upon arriving at the Hamilton county jail for a more than 4 month stay, with all my medications in hand (including medication for seizures), I was stripped of every medication prescribed to me by a legitimate Dr. on the outside. Hamilton County jail then forced me to wait without medication for more than 5 days before I was able to see their "nurse practicioner" who proudly determined that I was no longer in need of any of my medications!(How convenient for the medical staff and the Hamilton county taxpayers.

Needless to say my Doctor on the outside was furious when informed. He claims he attempted to call to the jails "Doctor" on several occasions but they either refused to take his call or would not return the call.

Hamilton County is a decent facility and the majority of the CO's and brass there will treat you with respect and dignity. But, if you have a medical problem or a need to take medication while in this jail you may very well be out of luck.

PS - My legitimately prescribed medications were confiscated as contraband and never returned to me upon completion of my sentence.

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Jan 6, 2009
 
John wrote:
Having frequented many of our State's county jails (Hamilton county included) and several IDOC facilities, I can say that Hamilton county is one of the nicer facilities you can stay in. That said, I also have numerous health problems that are in need of constant medical care. Upon arriving at the Hamilton county jail for a more than 4 month stay, with all my medications in hand (including medication for seizures), I was stripped of every medication prescribed to me by a legitimate Dr. on the outside. Hamilton County jail then forced me to wait without medication for more than 5 days before I was able to see their "nurse practicioner" who proudly determined that I was no longer in need of any of my medications!(How convenient for the medical staff and the Hamilton county taxpayers.
Needless to say my Doctor on the outside was furious when informed. He claims he attempted to call to the jails "Doctor" on several occasions but they either refused to take his call or would not return the call.
Hamilton County is a decent facility and the majority of the CO's and brass there will treat you with respect and dignity. But, if you have a medical problem or a need to take medication while in this jail you may very well be out of luck.
PS - My legitimately prescribed medications were confiscated as contraband and never returned to me upon completion of my sentence.
Curious as to what you are hoping to accomplish here?
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Jan 6, 2009
 
John wrote:
Having frequented many of our State's county jails (Hamilton county included) and several IDOC facilities, I can say that Hamilton county is one of the nicer facilities you can stay in. That said, I also have numerous health problems that are in need of constant medical care. Upon arriving at the Hamilton county jail for a more than 4 month stay, with all my medications in hand (including medication for seizures), I was stripped of every medication prescribed to me by a legitimate Dr. on the outside. Hamilton County jail then forced me to wait without medication for more than 5 days before I was able to see their "nurse practicioner" who proudly determined that I was no longer in need of any of my medications!(How convenient for the medical staff and the Hamilton county taxpayers.
Needless to say my Doctor on the outside was furious when informed. He claims he attempted to call to the jails "Doctor" on several occasions but they either refused to take his call or would not return the call.
Hamilton County is a decent facility and the majority of the CO's and brass there will treat you with respect and dignity. But, if you have a medical problem or a need to take medication while in this jail you may very well be out of luck.
PS - My legitimately prescribed medications were confiscated as contraband and never returned to me upon completion of my sentence.
My child did a stay there per my begging the courts to do something with him. He was injured there, I was called to meet them at the hospital in which I did immediately only to wait 2 hours for them to find someone to transport him, once there I was not allowed to see him but asked to sign all the forms (so I could be held responsible for his care although he was injured under their watch) he was injured badly enough 3 different prescriptions were written. 2 for pain and one for inflamation. I purchased all 3 at a cost of 216.00. When I spoke with my son the next day he was told he had to choose one of the 3 to take and that was all he would be allowed to take. Unknowing to him he picked the hydrocodone and suffered greatly until I petitioned the court with a statement from the ER Dr and the conversation he had with the part time physician for Hamilton Co. My son was released immediately and had surgery within days for the water that had built up on his knee due to negelct of the inflamation meds not being taken. It was a catch 22 for me I felt I was playing tough love with my son had no clue it would cost me 33,000 in medical bills to try and get him on the right track.
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Feb 2, 2009
 
Mary K wrote:
Hamilton co. is worst run jail in the state.I have never been in there but have known friends and family who have been.They are rude and very ill-manner in their treatment of citizens.
they are not only rude to the prisoners but to the families that come to visit, compassion shouldn't come at a price...they have forgotten that we are ALL humans..and only walking in GRACE
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Feb 2, 2009
 
they are not only rude to the prisoners but to the famileis that come to visit. Compassion shouldn't come at a price..they have forgotten that we are ALL humans...and only walking in GRACE
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#495
Feb 9, 2009
 
GOOD GRIEF wrote:
Yipeeee! ONE LESS I HAVE TO PAY FOR,(SORRY)MAY GOD REST HIS SOUL!
Just the kind of attitude I would expect from an individual who is so narrow minded that he or she would never imagine an innocent could go to jail, and then die for it. Right on, dickhead.
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My fiance is serving 1 yr due 6mths in hamilton. Why? On a PI charge he got while at a concert. I'v sat in the judges court room several times and have watched him give slaps on the wrists to residents of hamilton county who are there for 3rd time DUI offenses. The county gets more $$$$ for a non-resident to sit than it does for a resident. Justice. BULL
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Feb 21, 2009
 
JoJo18 wrote:
Can't we ... all ... j-j-just get ... along ??
ss JoJo the world has gone to H--- anymore its a dog eat dog world. Nice people are few and far between and thats really a shame!
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You've got to be kidding. Have you ever been at the Marion County jail? Hamilton County is a state of the art facility. They may have been rude to you, but prisioners get excellent care.
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Excellent care? O MY! Have you ever had anyone in that jail? Obviously not, They for the most part are the rudest bunch of officers I have ever met. They think they own you and your family once they have your loved one. They dont know how to even answer questions civilized. What gets me is they and their siblings are just as guilty of some of the things they put you in there for and they think they are above the law. They could care less. They are there to do a job and they do a less than tasteful hob of it.
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"Don't do the CRIME if YOU don't want to do the TIME" Quit WHINING!

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