6 Ft. Smith properties to be sold

6 Ft. Smith properties to be sold

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Revelation

Los Angeles, CA

#1 May 4, 2013
4/16/2013 – TG: Judge: Six Alamo properties can be sold to help satisfy judgment

Texarkana Gazette
April 16, 2013
By: Lynn LaRowe – Texarkana Gazette

Judge: Six Alamo properties can be sold to help satisfy judgment

A federal judge ruled Monday six properties associated with imprisoned evangelist Tony Alamo can be sold to partially satisfy a $30 million judgment owed to two former members of Alamo’s controversial ministry.

U.S. Magistrate Judge Barry Bryant found the real estate sought has been under the complete control of Tony Alamo.

“He chose the name Tony Alamo Christian Ministries and made the decision to change the name of the church on Windsor Drive from Gloryland Christian Church to TACM.… He made decisions regarding the operations of the church without any input from other members,” Bryant’s order states.“He also made the decisions to actually purchase property.”

A jury found Alamo guilty of battery, conspiracy and outrage at the end of a jury trial in a lawsuit filed by Texarkana lawyer David Carter on behalf of Spencer Ondrisek and Seth Calagna. Alamo owes each man $15 million in compensatory and punitive damages for the abuses they suffered as children raised in Alamo Ministries.
Revelation

Los Angeles, CA

#2 May 4, 2013
Alamo is serving a 175-year federal sentence assessed him by a jury in a 2009 criminal trial for bringing women he wed as children across state lines for sex.

Carter and Irving, Texas, lawyer Neil Smith argued earlier at a hearing this month that the properties they seek to sell were held in the names of Alamo loyalists, including Steve Johnson, as part of a scheme to avoid such judgments by Alamo. Johnson is listed as an owner on all six of the properties Carter and Neil seek to liquidate as partial recompense for Alamo’s debt to Ondrisek and Calagna.

Typically, the names of one or two followers are placed on a deed. At the same time, the members listed sign blank quitclaim deeds kept in the Alamo Ministries office.

If a property-owning member falls from Alamo’s grace, the quit-claim deed is backdated and filed, transfering ownership to a member in good standing.

“The complex and fraudulent scheme designed to insulate Alamo from judgments is unraveling,” Carter said.“We know who participated in the scheme and will continue make sure it is completely exposed.”

In excerpts from depositions of Johnson discussed at a hearing April 2, Johnson claims no ownership of the properties and claims they belong either to Alamo or Alamo Ministries.

Alamo’s lawyer, John Rogers of Clayton, Mo., argued at the hearing the properties actually belong to the ministry, not Johnson or Alamo.

“Plaintiffs argue Tony Alamo Christian Ministries is merely a fiction,” Bryant’s order states.“Defendant (Tony Alamo) argues this property is being held for TACM or the individual members of TACM.”

Bryant’s order points out an unincorporated entity, such as Tony Alamo Christian Ministries, cannot own property under Arkansas law.

Bryant’s order directs Carter and Smith to coordinate with the U.S. Marshals Office and file a proposed order for the sale of the properties within 10 days.

“We will move swiftly to coordinate with the U.S. Marshals Office to have the properties sold,” Carter said.

The six Fort Smith, Ark., properties sought in the writ include the church building, a gym building, a warehouse, a restaurant parking lot, a restaurant and a residential house. Smith and Carter are only seeking to take Johnson’s interest in the properties at this point in the litigation.
Jake

United States

#3 May 4, 2013
I wish these properties could be placed in trust for the members. Having all that money go to two people is an obscenity! Like these two are the only ones who suffered terribly at Alamo's hand and abusiveness!!
Revelation

Los Angeles, CA

#4 May 6, 2013
Jake, I think this goes back to the 1991 raid. The foundation lost everything. All the properties and belongings of the followers were seized by the federal government. Why did that happen? The reason is a certain someone did not pay the taxes. Hence everything was seized to pay the taxes.

The current situation is similar. The people at the foundation worked hard to accomplish something. The pastor engaged in illegal activity and now all the property and such are being seized. It seems to be a pattern.
Revelation

Los Angeles, CA

#5 May 6, 2013
Why would anyone support a pastor like that?
brother d

Roswell, GA

#6 May 6, 2013
Jake wrote:
I wish these properties could be placed in trust for the members. Having all that money go to two people is an obscenity! Like these two are the only ones who suffered terribly at Alamo's hand and abusiveness!!
Not just the members. There are several (hundred) ex-members who contributed a significant share of their lives to acquire those resources. They should have a stake in the deposition as well.
Tess

United States

#7 May 6, 2013
brother d wrote:
<quoted text>Not just the members. There are several (hundred) ex-members who contributed a significant share of their lives to acquire those resources. They should have a stake in the deposition as well.
I heartily agree, Brother D.
Jake

United States

#8 May 7, 2013
That shows how unfair this whole thing is,although I guess it would be worse to see it all go to Alamo's lawyers.
Current Revelations

Long Beach, CA

#9 May 7, 2013
Jake, I am sure a lion's share of money went to the lawyers. They took ta's appeal to the supreme court. I am sure that ain't cheap.
Jake

United States

#10 May 8, 2013
Real soul winning ministry that was! LOL!!
Worried

United States

#11 May 11, 2013
Has anyone heard how these matters are progressing?Have any plans been made by the current leadership how the Congregation's families needs will be met?
Revelation

Los Angeles, CA

#12 May 11, 2013
I kinda doubt anyone's needs will be met. They will be on their own after 40 years of service. 40 years of service in a government job will get you 90 - 100% of your pay upon retirement. In other words you don't have to work anymore and you still get paid 100%. 40 years of foundation service translates to zero retirement. It isn't a good deal.
Jake

South San Francisco, CA

#13 May 11, 2013
Well that's probably true barring a miracle, which I still believe in.
Revelation

Los Angeles, CA

#14 May 11, 2013
Yes, I believe in miracles. However God doesn't promise miracles. Hence get a job.
Jake

South San Francisco, CA

#15 May 11, 2013
Too late for some of the older ones for that I think.
Worried

United States

#16 May 12, 2013
Yes,I so hope that this reckless plan to sell these properties for the sake of two people is stopped before it is too late.
Jake

United States

#17 May 12, 2013
Sure do.
Hmmm

Eagle, ID

#18 May 12, 2013
Jake wrote:
I wish these properties could be placed in trust for the members. Having all that money go to two people is an obscenity! Like these two are the only ones who suffered terribly at Alamo's hand and abusiveness!!
Hmmm...So let's make sure I understand...these two brave young men escaped from Alamo's clutches, were disowned by their Alamo-loyalist parents, assisted the authorities in the prosecution of Alamo and his "enforcer", provided testimony at trials and hearings, found a lawyer who would assist them in receiving justice, endured deposition questioning by Alamo's lawyers, underwent extensive cross-examination at a public trial where the "members", including parents, accused them of being liars and malcontents, and have endured several years of wallowing in the legal system without receiving a dime.

Now that they are possibly on the verge of receiving a fraction of the damages they were awarded by the jury as recompense, there are those who have done nothing but post anonymously on the internet who feel that this is an "obscenity", and suggest that those who sat back and did nothing are now entitled to a portion of the results of these young men's efforts?

Where were these "members" for whom this trust would be established while these young men bravely gave their testimony? Were they lined up at the courthouse willing to give their own testimony in support?

This is absurd. You should be ashamed.

While there is no denying that others suffered at Alamo's hand, then those should have also strapped on their big-boy britches and come forward in the beginning instead of now claiming a share of the pot after the outcome was certain.

Jake

South San Francisco, CA

#19 May 13, 2013
I'm sure it was more than simply two young broke people taking on the Alamites. I'm sure there was backing from elsewhere and it's starting to look like it was a good investment for those nackers. In any case I am not saying these two people are not entitled to compensation, rather, not in the grossly inequitable amounts being planned, which are likely to leave little or nothing to assist the remaining members who to a large extent were too young and or lacked similar backup to what the two in position to get most of the money had.
Jake

South San Francisco, CA

#20 May 13, 2013
Typo above : Should read "backers" not "nackers".

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