T & S Alamo foundation.
brother d

Roswell, GA

#22 Mar 2, 2013
...and he had no taste. He spent our money to dress like a clown.
mac

Little Rock, AR

#23 Mar 2, 2013
Yeah, nothing about him was real. He was a complete phony all the way from his clowny looking elevators all the way up to his fake implants.
mac

Little Rock, AR

#24 Mar 2, 2013
I take that back. There is one thing about him that is definitely real though, and that is that he is evil.

Even some of the ones that are still part of the group secretly despise him. They're just too old to leave so they're stuck there. Very sad.
Modesto

South San Francisco, CA

#25 Mar 2, 2013
Mac, Have you or someone you know heard from them first hand that they feel they are too old to leave though they dislike Tony? I know of people who have offered some of them support if they do.
mac

Little Rock, AR

#26 Mar 2, 2013
J, I've heard many things over the years. Some have actually left, physiclaly but not mentally, but some are too scared to leave because some feel it is too risky to leave. Alamo has them believing they will get killed, die some horrible death from disease for turning their backs on God, or end up in prison, go to hell....nothing new...samo samo alamo brain captivity. I'm sure some of them have read this forum where many times people have offered their support, but he also has them believing that we are all a bunch of devils.
Modesto

South San Francisco, CA

#27 Mar 2, 2013
I pray for them every day. Very sad.
wormcan opener

San Antonio, TX

#28 Mar 2, 2013
I think old age probably plays a part in it, to some extent, but especially the number of years of brainwash, to the extent of totally believing tony's lies and deception, feeling positive he's both innocent, framed by the vatican and a "pedophile prophet". we have to consider the number of years there, and the effect it has made on their lives, seeing right up close, "the little girl thing" and condoning it and sticking up for it, even partaking in it.(not good) consider these statistics... still there from Crescent heights (=1970) 15 people or more. 1971 - 17 or more people still there. personally, I don't know how many were born there, I made my final exit in 1992, and MANY children were born since that era. I can only name 15 who are there at this time. what would the ones who have been there for 42 and 43 years say to a prospective employer, when asked where they have been for all this time ?????? JMHO, that's all, but I also pray...miracles do happen.
biskitshoes

Okotoks, Canada

#29 Mar 2, 2013
Curiously, there are many ex-members who stayed long term, that have nothing to say about Tony and Sue - negative or positive. Is it fear, or are they just weary of the whole fiasco?( just a question to myself) They would likely hold more influence over the old timers than anyone else. Their silence isn't helping anyone.
biskitshoes

Okotoks, Canada

#30 Mar 2, 2013
... I should qualify these ex-members as the ones I know of using internet social media. Who really knows what kind of intervention has been attempted on behalf of the old timers.
Insight

Pullman, WA

#31 Mar 2, 2013
All excellent points. Do they know what ta was up to? I would say all old timers do. Why don't they leave? Many factors have been discussed; lack of income or employment prospects, no social security or retirement, the fear of the "triple threat", and so on. However there is an emotional attachment the current members have for each other. In other words there is love between them. If they leave, they believe no one will love them. Of course as we all know (as former members) there is love after the foundation. I think deep in their heart of hearts they hate ta. Unfortunately they won't say it. They hate ta and they love each other. The other thing is ta is not on the property nor won't be ever. The current members probably breathe a sigh of relief for that but, can't say so. I am sure they are told to pray for "ta's freedom". Most likely they are all secretly thanking God ta is locked up.
wormcan opener

San Antonio, TX

#32 Mar 2, 2013
Insight wrote:
All excellent points. Do they know what ta was up to? I would say all old timers do. Why don't they leave? Many factors have been discussed; lack of income or employment prospects, no social security or retirement, the fear of the "triple threat", and so on. However there is an emotional attachment the current members have for each other. In other words there is love between them. If they leave, they believe no one will love them. Of course as we all know (as former members) there is love after the foundation. I think deep in their heart of hearts they hate ta. Unfortunately they won't say it. They hate ta and they love each other. The other thing is ta is not on the property nor won't be ever. The current members probably breathe a sigh of relief for that but, can't say so. I am sure they are told to pray for "ta's freedom". Most likely they are all secretly thanking God ta is locked up.
hah! if they are telling all of them to pray for toe-knee's release from the slammer, you can bet your boots they are either sleeping through that all-night-prayer-meeting, or are secretly praying "keep him there, Lord ! please, don't ever let him get out" he brow-beat every single one into brain death, but as far as them loving one another...?? I was there for 21 years and never saw one ounce of love between the "brethren" when the doctrine of "God is hate" is preached, there's no room for love. above all things, they need to get away and learn to love their own selves and find that the Lord loves them out side the cult walls.
wormcan opener

San Antonio, TX

#33 Mar 2, 2013
Marshal Law II wrote:
<quoted text>
Hey buddy, why don't you stick it up your @$$? Comments like that makes people not want to post shit... go eff urself..
what a filthy mouth you have...I hope you never do come back on here. nobody on here wants to hear any of your cussing anyway. I hope someone ticks a bar of soap in your mouth.
Insight

Pullman, WA

#34 Mar 2, 2013
biskitshoes wrote:
Curiously, there are many ex-members who stayed long term, that have nothing to say about Tony and Sue - negative or positive. Is it fear, or are they just weary of the whole fiasco?( just a question to myself) They would likely hold more influence over the old timers than anyone else. Their silence isn't helping anyone.
Biskits, I believe those people knew what was really going on. Hence they would rather avoid discussions like these. They know they might be asked questions they would rather avoid.
Modesto

South San Francisco, CA

#35 Mar 2, 2013
When I first left I was reluctant to speak with anyone who wasn't also there with me about the Alamos. I know fear had a lot to do with that. Probably fear keeps lots of people silent. Many say that they are silent because they want to move on, which is probably true for some. I think silence is born of fear for most though and the "moving on" explanation is just what they tell themselves and others. It's possible to help those still victimized by activism and speaking out while also moving on.

Since: Dec 12

Location hidden

#36 Mar 2, 2013
wormcan opener wrote:
<quoted text> what a filthy mouth you have...I hope you never do come back on here. nobody on here wants to hear any of your cussing anyway. I hope someone ticks a bar of soap in your mouth.
What are you saying? I can't be part of your cult? I have to think and talk just like you Ms Tony? Sorry your Queen Virgin Mary. I know curse-words are so awful. Should be criminal even. Yes, I don't deserve to be in your presence. I will leave now.
biskitshoes

Okotoks, Canada

#37 Mar 2, 2013
wormcan opener wrote:
<quoted text> hah! if they are telling all of them to pray for toe-knee's release from the slammer, you can bet your boots they are either sleeping through that all-night-prayer-meeting, or are secretly praying "keep him there, Lord ! please, don't ever let him get out" he brow-beat every single one into brain death, but as far as them loving one another...?? I was there for 21 years and never saw one ounce of love between the "brethren" when the doctrine of "God is hate" is preached, there's no room for love. above all things, they need to get away and learn to love their own selves and find that the Lord loves them out side the cult walls.
My experience was different as I left after a short 4 years, before the foundation really went sideways. While there were a few robotic bros who made life unbearable, the hardest part in my decision to 'split' was leaving the many close friendships I had formed. I met so many kinds of people I would never have met otherwise.
wormcan opener

San Antonio, TX

#38 Mar 3, 2013
Marshal Law II wrote:
<quoted text>
What are you saying? I can't be part of your cult? I have to think and talk just like you Ms Tony? Sorry your Queen Virgin Mary. I know curse-words are so awful. Should be criminal even. Yes, I don't deserve to be in your presence. I will leave now.
BYE !!
Yahoo Les Wood

Orlando, FL

#39 Mar 5, 2013
wensday 11 to 12 noon eastern time,This week on simple word radio show,we will be talking about Nimrod,the possible next pope and obama ,going to have a guest speaker(some of you may know Him, tune in,

http://www.wapn.net/ It is also livestream
smokin

Pleasanton, CA

#40 Mar 5, 2013
Since YLW brought it up I did a bit of easy internet research on Nimrod as the name has in the last few decades more than just Old Testament meaning, i.e. definition #2:
I gleaned this from urbandictionary.com :

Nimrod: 1. A mighty hunter. Now chiefly used in this sense outside the United States.
2. A slow-witted person.

Nimrod was the Biblical founder of Babylon, also considered a mighty hunter......The Bible ONLY mentions that Nimrod was a son of Cush, the founder of Babylon, and a mighty hunter. Curiously enough, Dictionary.com attests definition 2 to have derived from a Looney Toons episode, wherein Bugs Bunny mocks his adversary, the hunter Elmer Fudd, calling him a "poor little Nimrod". Warner Brothers' Looney Toons cartoons were not written for children, but for literate adults, and often contained literary references children would not understand. Younger generations, mostly illiterate, and having little or no Bible knowledge not gleaned from their moronic parents and half-wit talk radio hosts, probably misunderstood the comment as being a general insult describing the slow-witted Fudd.
Probably from the phrase “poor little Nimrod,” used by the cartoon character Bugs Bunny to mock the hapless hunter Elmer Fudd
brother d

Roswell, GA

#42 Mar 7, 2013
Yahoo Les Wood wrote:
wensday 11 to 12 noon eastern time,This week on simple word radio show,we will be talking about Nimrod,the possible next pope and obama ,going to have a guest speaker(some of you may know Him, tune in,
http://www.wapn.net/ It is also livestream
I can't wait! Is this show only for simple people or can others listen too?

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