Show it in the Bible (KJV)

Show it in the Bible (KJV)

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Yahoo Les Wood

Ormond Beach, FL

#1 Feb 3, 2012
Can anyone person show in the Bible,that the Children of Cain,
ceased to exist after the flood ?

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#2 Feb 3, 2012
I believe there are folks out there that carefully read through the genealogies and have discovered at some point (the flood?)descendants of Cain are not mentioned. Although I do have a knowledge of the KJV I haven't participated in that study. Maybe some readers can contribute to this. However I did see the movie "The Caine Mutiny". Excellent movie.
Yahoo Les Wood

Ormond Beach, FL

#3 Feb 3, 2012
I have spent time with this,one reader sends to me,
I dont know for sure but Enoch was the son of Cain so after that I find there were children born in this linage. What become of them I don’t know but there were only 8 people on Noahs Ark so did one of Cains decendants survive in Noahs family I don’t know.
1. Genesis 5:23
And all the days of Enoch were three hundred sixty and five years:
2. Genesis 5:24
And Enoch walked with God: and he was not; for God took him.
3. Genesis 4:17
And Cain knew his wife; and she conceived, and bare Enoch: and he builded a city, and called the name of the city, after the name of his son, Enoch.
4. Genesis 4:18
And unto Enoch was born Irad: and Irad begat Mehujael: and Mehujael begat Methusael: and Methusael begat Lamech.
5. Genesis 5:21
And Enoch lived sixty and five years, and begat Methuselah:
6. Genesis 5:22
And Enoch walked with God after he begat Methuselah three hundred years, and begat sons and daughters:
Luke 3:36-38
36Which was the son of Cainan, which was the son of Arphaxad, which was the son of Sem, which was the son of Noe, which was the son of Lamech,

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#4 Feb 3, 2012
It appears slightly out of context. Jumping from Genesis to Luke.
Yahoo Les Wood

Ormond Beach, FL

#5 Feb 4, 2012
I see it plainly,why dont you bring something to the table ?
DKCHI

Maywood, IL

#6 Feb 4, 2012
If you just go by what's written they have separate geneologies, Cain, Genesis chapter 4 and Seth, Genesis chapter 5, father to son, down to Noah. It doesn't leave any room for a descendant of Cain to be inserted somewhere.
Yahoo Les Wood

Ormond Beach, FL

#7 Feb 4, 2012
I read them both and I see them linked,Sorry,please show,show that cain's kids did not marry out,I seen that the kids ran together,here is another important part,Genesis 6:2
That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.
Mixed marriages,Genesis 24:3
And I will make thee swear by the LORD, the God of heaven, and the God of the earth, that thou shalt not take a wife unto my son of the daughters of the Canaanites, among whom I dwell:
I was hoping that someone can show that this are not Cain's kids,and what about the mark on Cain, Genesis 4:15
And the LORD said unto him, Therefore whosoever slayeth Cain, vengeance shall be taken on him sevenfold. And the LORD set a mark upon Cain, lest any finding him should kill him.
lest anyone find him ?
Yahoo Les Wood

Ormond Beach, FL

#8 Feb 4, 2012
God promised that He would not kill cain,cain got married had some kids,God is Holy to His word,if God wiped cain and his seed out,that could only mean that all those born under cain had no chance,that might even make God unjust,a no hope God.
God is not unjust,He will not put some one to death for the sins of their parents,

what was that that mark ?

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#9 Feb 4, 2012
I don't think anyone know what the mark was or if Cain's seed survived the flood. Some folks believe Noah's son Ham's wife was a Cain descendant. However "Citizen Kane" is an excellent classic movie.
brother d

Lilburn, GA

#10 Feb 5, 2012
Cain obviously evolved from a lower form of ape that went extinct before the flood. Noah's genome is still evolving. Although his lineage has been reproductively successful, I can't say it has resulted in a better human. But we did develop an iPhone.
Yahoo Les Wood

Ormond Beach, FL

#11 Feb 8, 2012
JackSpratt wrote:
I don't think anyone know what the mark was or if Cain's seed survived the flood. Some folks believe Noah's son Ham's wife was a Cain descendant. However "Citizen Kane" is an excellent classic movie.
Spratt are you in the back ground ?

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#12 Feb 8, 2012
Wutchutalkinabout LW?
enough

Eagle, ID

#13 Feb 8, 2012
Early and modern Christian
According to scholars, early interpretations of the Bible in Syriac Christianity combined the "curse" with the "mark", and interpreted the curse of Cain as black skin.[9] Some argue that this may have originated from rabbinic texts, which interpreted a passage in the Book of Genesis ("And Cain was very wroth, and his countenance fell") as implying that Cain underwent a permanent change in skin color.[10]
Origen, however, states that all the descendants of Cain perished in the Flood, and that all humankind therefore descends from Seth.[11]
The Church Father Ephrem the Syrian (306-378):“Abel was bright as the light,/ but the murderer (Cain) was dark as the darkness".[12]
In an Eastern Christian (Armenian) Adam-book (5th or 6th century) it is written:“And the Lord was wroth with Cain... He beat Cain’s face with hail, which blackened like coal, and thus he remained with a black face".
brother d

Lilburn, GA

#14 Feb 9, 2012
enough wrote:
Early and modern Christian
According to scholars, early interpretations of the Bible in Syriac Christianity combined the "curse" with the "mark", and interpreted the curse of Cain as black skin.[9] Some argue that this may have originated from rabbinic texts, which interpreted a passage in the Book of Genesis ("And Cain was very wroth, and his countenance fell") as implying that Cain underwent a permanent change in skin color.[10]
Origen, however, states that all the descendants of Cain perished in the Flood, and that all humankind therefore descends from Seth.[11]
The Church Father Ephrem the Syrian (306-378):“Abel was bright as the light,/ but the murderer (Cain) was dark as the darkness".[12]
In an Eastern Christian (Armenian) Adam-book (5th or 6th century) it is written:“And the Lord was wroth with Cain... He beat Cain’s face with hail, which blackened like coal, and thus he remained with a black face".
Shich just goes to show that this entire argument is based on conjecture, myth, and fables. With no solution, why not focus on more important issues. Surely the New Testatment commandment of Jesus to love your neighbor as yourself is more important than the color of a dead man's skin.
Yahoo Les Wood

Ormond Beach, FL

#15 Feb 9, 2012
enough wrote:
Early and modern Christian
According to scholars, early interpretations of the Bible in Syriac Christianity combined the "curse" with the "mark", and interpreted the curse of Cain as black skin.[9] Some argue that this may have originated from rabbinic texts, which interpreted a passage in the Book of Genesis ("And Cain was very wroth, and his countenance fell") as implying that Cain underwent a permanent change in skin color.[10]
Origen, however, states that all the descendants of Cain perished in the Flood, and that all humankind therefore descends from Seth.[11]
The Church Father Ephrem the Syrian (306-378):“Abel was bright as the light,/ but the murderer (Cain) was dark as the darkness".[12]
In an Eastern Christian (Armenian) Adam-book (5th or 6th century) it is written:“And the Lord was wroth with Cain... He beat Cain’s face with hail, which blackened like coal, and thus he remained with a black face".
,

Very well written,and I can see plainly that your are not trying to state a argument about,picking and choosing who Jesus loves,I appreciate your findings that you have posted,and I have never read those words.
We do know that Noah had 3 sons and they had wives,we also know that the sons of God married the daughters of man.
Now if it were true that Black folks are the children of Cain,we can also see that God's wonderful mercies are extend to them and the world,for them,that they are a walking living testimony directly marked by God Himself,(God Is Real),and to every human that may see them,(God Is Real).
Yahoo Les Wood

Ormond Beach, FL

#16 Feb 9, 2012
Enough,you also stated of someone else's writings,and you never said that you agreed with it,(Origen, however, states that all the descendants of Cain perished in the Flood, and that all humankind therefore descends from Seth.[11])

This is found no where in the bible yet,Spratt
has also brought up the point of what some others believe and have written,(Some folks believe Noah's son Ham's wife was a Cain descendant.),Spratt did not say that he agreed,
Genesis 9:22
And Ham, the father of Canaan, saw the nakedness of his father, and told his two brethren without.
was his wife a daughter of man ?
enough

Eagle, ID

#17 Feb 9, 2012
I simply quoted what early church writers wrote and I assume they believed it. Much in the way of fables have been past down from generation to generation and have been proven to be based on truth . I think it is of a benefit to look and see what they believed back in the early days .
brother d

Lilburn, GA

#18 Feb 9, 2012
Yahoo Les Wood wrote:
Enough,you also stated of someone else's writings,and you never said that you agreed with it,(Origen, however, states that all the descendants of Cain perished in the Flood, and that all humankind therefore descends from Seth.[11])
This is found no where in the bible yet,Spratt
has also brought up the point of what some others believe and have written,(Some folks believe Noah's son Ham's wife was a Cain descendant.),Spratt did not say that he agreed,
Genesis 9:22
And Ham, the father of Canaan, saw the nakedness of his father, and told his two brethren without.
was his wife a daughter of man ?
more important, was she fat?
Yahoo Les Wood

Ormond Beach, FL

#19 Feb 9, 2012
enough wrote:
I simply quoted what early church writers wrote and I assume they believed it. Much in the way of fables have been past down from generation to generation and have been proven to be based on truth . I think it is of a benefit to look and see what they believed back in the early days .
True Enough,we certainly can examine all things to see whether they be of God or not
brother d

Lilburn, GA

#20 Feb 11, 2012
enough wrote:
I simply quoted what early church writers wrote and I assume they believed it. Much in the way of fables have been past down from generation to generation and have been proven to be based on truth . I think it is of a benefit to look and see what they believed back in the early days .
Prove all things, hold fast to that which is good. If you do that, you have to be brave enough to toss the junk. Most are not.

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