Methodists Close Meeting; No Action on Transgender Issues

[Eboni T-Girl]

Harold Christ wrote:

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I take it the Eboni stands for Ebonics?

No......actualy the only thing that Eboni stands for is the LGBT community. So i quess you meant to say, "Is Eboni the prefix in Ebonics"?

Don't worry about Ebonics, looks as if you should try,"hooked on phonics".

[Eboni T-Girl]

LuLu Ford wrote:

There is a troll from Illinois
Whose posts of God are only noise
He thinks he knows the word of God
But his beliefs are all a fraud
His brain is small and filled with rot
Relentless are his words unthought
Night and day he types away
Yet secretly he’s really gay
WillyBeFeckless knows it all
Thinks he's really on the ball
Unschooled in philosophic thought
His clueless words are good for naught
He speaks for God whom he denies
Yet tells the world a bunch of lies
His computer runs around the clock
Spewing forth his endless schlock
Yet to his senses he should come
If he would quench this clueless run
Addictiveness his only fate
Help for him may come too late

I love your poem girl. I did not know you had poetic skills like that.....hahahaha

Well i hope all is well with you, and have a nice day. Oh, and your pic is awesome!

[LuLu Ford]

Kerdy 1 wrote:

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What is homosexuality? When people of the same sex have sex with one another. While the word "homosexual" didnt exist, the meaning of that word was addressed in scripture.....several times and God said it was a sin. Like stealing, coveting, etc. It really doesnt matter what people "think", what matters is what God said and He said it was a sin. So, I guess that makes God a troll.

That is your view of homosexuality based upon what you believe to be true in the Bible. Many theologians disagree about this particular point of view. Homosexuality is an attraction for the same sex, not a behavior such as coveting or stealing. Getting back to Biblical meanings. The word "Sodomy" actually has 13th century origins and refers to people who have "unnatural" sex. It can be oral, anal, and with either gender. It is very easy to shift one's point of view toward judgment of others if we let mistranslations and erroneous word definitions lead us astray.

Peace

[LuLu Ford]

Eboni T-Girl wrote:

<quoted text>I love your poem girl. I did not know you had poetic skills like that.....hahahaha
Well i hope all is well with you, and have a nice day. Oh, and your pic is awesome!

Thanks, blush ;)

[Blond Prince]

Unnatural sex means to go against ones own sexual orientation.

This means if one is heterosexual male getting sex from gay male just to satisfy momentary lust, the heterosexual male has gone against nature.

It means, if a gay male has sex with a female for whatever reason, he has gone against his own natural nature.

Unnatural sex is to go against your born sexual orientation. We are all sexual creatures, and we are either born homosexual, heterosexual, or bisexual.

Obsessive variations in sex acts are learned, and some can be very bad, but this is about natural born sexual orientation of which none are bad. Every poster here is a person, and a fundamental part of being a person is your sexual orientation. To say there is something wrong with a persons sexual orientation is to say there is something wrong with a person all the way around. This is why I have zero respect for the homophobe. I'd not pizz on one if it were on fire.

[LuLu Ford]

Blond Prince wrote:

Unnatural sex means to go against ones own sexual orientation.
This means if one is heterosexual male getting sex from gay male just to satisfy momentary lust, the heterosexual male has gone against nature.
It means, if a gay male has sex with a female for whatever reason, he has gone against his own natural nature.
Unnatural sex is to go against your born sexual orientation. We are all sexual creatures, and we are either born homosexual, heterosexual, or bisexual.
Obsessive variations in sex acts are learned, and some can be very bad, but this is about natural born sexual orientation of which none are bad. Every poster here is a person, and a fundamental part of being a person is your sexual orientation. To say there is something wrong with a persons sexual orientation is to say there is something wrong with a person all the way around. This is why I have zero respect for the homophobe. I'd not pizz on one if it were on fire.

One could have sex with another person to dominate them. This is the central thrust of Biblical passages, not committed loving relationships. A phobia is an irrational fear of something. People often fear what they do not understand.

[verad]

Kerdy 1 wrote:

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I guess God is a troll too considering He said it first.

You do realize that the Bible was written by man and has been translated repeatedly with the Latin Vulgate being the worst bastardization from the original, right?

Otherwise there would only be one translation and it would be on stone tablets in Jerusalem or somewhere in the region.

[Kerdy 1]

LuLu Ford wrote:

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That is your view of homosexuality based upon what you believe to be true in the Bible. Many theologians disagree about this particular point of view. Homosexuality is an attraction for the same sex, not a behavior such as coveting or stealing. Getting back to Biblical meanings. The word "Sodomy" actually has 13th century origins and refers to people who have "unnatural" sex. It can be oral, anal, and with either gender. It is very easy to shift one's point of view toward judgment of others if we let mistranslations and erroneous word definitions lead us astray.
Peace

Many theologians? LOL! Sorry, I will say maybe 3%.

What does the origins of the word sodomy have to do with anything? Stay on topic. I know its hard for you, but try.

"It is very easy to shift one's point of view toward judgment of others if we let mistranslations and erroneous word definitions lead us astray."

No kidding! Couldnt have said it better myself.

[Kerdy 1]

verad wrote:

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You do realize that the Bible was written by man and has been translated repeatedly with the Latin Vulgate being the worst bastardization from the original, right?
Otherwise there would only be one translation and it would be on stone tablets in Jerusalem or somewhere in the region.

You do realize this flimsy and weak excuse has been used many times before and never worked, right?

[Beyondhyperbole]

verad wrote:

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You do realize that the Bible was written by man and has been translated repeatedly with the Latin Vulgate being the worst bastardization from the original, right?
Otherwise there would only be one translation and it would be on stone tablets in Jerusalem or somewhere in the region.

Stone tablets? Interesting, why do you think civilization was still using stone tablets? Why do you think it would be in Jerusalem? You bring up a lot of questions

[Blond Prince]

LuLu Ford wrote:

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One could have sex with another person to dominate them. This is the central thrust of Biblical passages, not committed loving relationships. A phobia is an irrational fear of something. People often fear what they do not understand.

I know that. I'm still an Atheist regardless. I just don't believe Allah is God. LOL

[LuLu Ford]

Blond Prince wrote:

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I know that. I'm still an Atheist regardless. I just don't believe Allah is God. LOL

That's fine with me. Some of my best friends are atheists;)

Seriously, we all have our own paths.

[verad]

Beyondhyperbole wrote:

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Stone tablets? Interesting, why do you think civilization was still using stone tablets? Why do you think it would be in Jerusalem? You bring up a lot of questions

Stone tablets like the ones that the Ten Commandments were written on? Why not Jerusalem or the general area?

[Blond Prince]

Speaking of transgender topics; does anyone know if Brini Maxwell is still on the air? I wanted to get that Swedish meatball recipe.

http://youtube.com/watch...

[verad]

Blond Prince wrote:

Speaking of transgender topics; does anyone know if Brini Maxwell is still on the air? I wanted to get that Swedish meatball recipe.
http://youtube.com/watch...

I don't think so. I LOVED her!!!! I wear a tank top autographed by her all the time.

[Kerdy 1]

verad wrote:

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Stone tablets like the ones that the Ten Commandments were written on? Why not Jerusalem or the general area?

Maybe they are there. How do you think they would have faired against the weather over the centuries? Everything else fell apart. Then again, the Egyptians did start using paper back then. Isnt that where Moses was educated?

[verad]

Kerdy 1 wrote:

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Maybe they are there. How do you think they would have faired against the weather over the centuries? Everything else fell apart. Then again, the Egyptians did start using paper back then. Isnt that where Moses was educated?

Whatever.

[LuLu Ford]

Kerdy 1 wrote:

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Many theologians? LOL! Sorry, I will say maybe 3%.
What does the origins of the word sodomy have to do with anything? Stay on topic. I know its hard for you, but try.
"It is very easy to shift one's point of view toward judgment of others if we let mistranslations and erroneous word definitions lead us astray."
No kidding! Couldnt have said it better myself.

Where do you get the 3% figure. For a moment, supposing your figure is correct, just because a majority believes something does not make it right. For example, the majority of Germans had no problem with exterminating the Jews in WWII just as the majority of Americans had no problem with rounding up people with German and Japanese ancestry. The behavior of the majority is no justification for wrongfulness. As to your 3% figure, I do not know where you came up with it but I do know that the majority of reputable theologians have discarded literal views of Scripture. I bring up the word "sodomy" to point out how easy it is for one to misunderstand word meaning and arrive at an erroneous conclusion. You are quite correct that I did not preface it properly but I find your remark about staying on topic to be slightly antagonistic. Is that your intention?