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Wife who cried rape when caught with lover is convicted

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#33
May 9, 2008
 
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That is probably the BEST idea I have read on Topix EVER!!! I wonder what it would take to get something like that set up??
Creating a petition, getting signatures, making copies of it and sending it to your state representatives and your congressman by registered mail.
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May 9, 2008
 
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See, here's the problem. There have been a lot of men exonerated. However, most of the people who have been exonerated were in cases where the women were raped, it just ended up not being the man convicted. In almost all of those cases, the men were exonerated because they were innocent of the rape, not because the rape didn't occur. It's only because of DNA testing that this is being discovered.
It's a ludicrous statement to make because the wrong person was convicted (exonerated) that the crime didn't occur. Last I checked, people were exonerated from death row crimes but that doesn't make the victim of the original murder any less dead from being murdered.
At this point, I'm wondering if you meant to use the wording of men being falsely accused and instead misused the word exonerated in your second sentence. Back to the original topic though, anyone who falsely reports a crime should be punished.
Both words could have been used. Those who have been exonerated have been found to have been falsely accused. True, it does not make the raped less raped or the murdered less murdered or, the victim of any crime less a victim. What it has done is create another victim,or victims. Instead of one injustice,you have at least two.
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#35
May 9, 2008
 
There are real rape victims but, there are also false rape victims. This is the real problem. A woman can scream rape and have the man or men jailed or imprisoned based on her word alone. Who is going to question a woman's word or her honor?
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May 9, 2008
 
"There are rape shield laws and victim’s anonymity laws to protect victims, while the accuser’s name and face are splashed all over the media. Things like this only showcase the flaws in our justice system. A more acceptable punishment for many of these women would be for them to serve the amount of time the accused would have been sent to, but in many cases, they barely get any jail time at all. Meanwhile, the accused has to bear the stigma of being a rapist, financial problems from attorney’s fees and court costs, and the time they lost. This is another example of how certain types of women claim to want to be equal to men, but still want special treatment for being women". http://jacknifedakilla.wordpress.com/2008/04/...
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#37
May 9, 2008
 
If it were not for DNA, those who have been exonerated would still be wrongfully imprisoned, some for the rest of their lives.
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#39
May 10, 2008
 
No one is commenting on the fact that he saw his wife with another man, she cried rape, and he fired four shots and killed the bastard. That is fantastic Western Texas justice if you ask me.
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#40
May 10, 2008
 
Woh, now that I've read what's on here. I think there are way too many under-educated redneck men on here too. Holy sh+t. A society that values men more than women? Are you serious? I would LOVE to hear how that's historically true. Wow.
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May 10, 2008
 
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Woh, now that I've read what's on here. I think there are way too many under-educated redneck men on here too. Holy sh+t. A society that values men more than women? Are you serious? I would LOVE to hear how that's historically true. Wow.
This sociey does not value men over women,IMHO they value women over men.
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#42
May 10, 2008
 
Look at domestic violence laws. Regardless of who is hurt/injured, the man is the most likely to be put in jail.

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May 10, 2008
 
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Just a reminder: In our legal system, the person being accused is innocent until proven guilty. Many of these "real victims" you speak of have been proven to be slutty liars, but not until they've ruined some guys life.
I have to agree with you there. It is very sick for someone to accuse another of this kind of attack.

But a real victim often don't say a word because they never want to be victimized again in the court system. I feel bad for those women that can't open their mouths. Because if I had the guts to do it right after my attack I would have saved a couple of more women from that kind crime... I kept my mouth shut for over a decade. Boo! I decided I was tired of being a victim at that point.

And Yes!!! I do feel bad for the poor guys that get FALSELY accused of such a horrific attack..

In this case, I hope the woman fries. Her poor husband had to deal with an unfaithful wife, that could have divorced him. Instead now he has to live with the fact that he killed another human being because of this evil act of his wife. He was scared for her and was believing that he was protecting her. Just sad.

I'm also heart broken for her dead boyfriend and his surviving. No one expects their lover to also be their killer (by proxy). This is very tragic and I hope she is never let out around men again.
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May 10, 2008
 

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It is already nearly impossible to prove rape. Rape kits have to show "evidence," like semen and signs of force.

When there's a positive rape kit, then one of two things happened. Either there was a rape, or someone was having very wild, unprotected sex.

There is a way for men, in this day and age, to protect themselves from rape charges.

Don't have sex with someone you shouldn't be having sex with.

Had the man who was killed NOT been having sex with someone who was married, he couldn't have been accused.

He did not deserve to die, and I hope the person that killed him and that horrible woman are both locked up for a long, long time.

But, had he kept his male member where it belonged, he would be alive today.

Men who have sex with women they don't know, such as one night stands, you're leaving yourself open to rape charges.

We've spent sooo long telling our daughters to not dress like a slut and telling poorly dressed rape victims with a sexual history that they deserved it.

Maybe it's time for men to realize that if they act like a slut, they could end up being accused of rape.

Best solution all around: save sex for committed relationships with people you've known a long time and trust, preferably your spouses.

Otherwise, you could find yourself on a witness stand being accused of rape, or, in a woman's case, accused of being a false crier or rape.
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May 10, 2008
 
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While I agree that if it is PROVEN that a woman cried wolf she should be charged with a comparable crime, this has the potential of becoming a bad proposal. When we take away the shield from women that protects them from raping men, it opens a lot of doors for men and their high-dollar lawyers to make legitimate rape cases go away. Just a thought....
And what would you say to all those men who have spent YEARS of their lives hell there who lives in some if not most cases have spent1/4 if not more in prison. What would you tell them once they got exonerated after all these years and the bitch lived a happy normal life. Whayt words would you tell the poor bastard that would make it all right for these women and your so called SHIELD.
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#49
May 10, 2008
 
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...There is a way for men, in this day and age, to protect themselves from rape charges.
Don't have sex with someone you shouldn't be having sex with....
Yet the Duke case shows that you don't even have to have sex in order to be accused (and convicted in the media) of the crime.
Those who falsely accuse do serious damage to those who have been attacked. Period.

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May 10, 2008
 
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It is already nearly impossible to prove rape. Rape kits have to show "evidence," like semen and signs of force.
When there's a positive rape kit, then one of two things happened. Either there was a rape, or someone was having very wild, unprotected sex.
There is a way for men, in this day and age, to protect themselves from rape charges.
Don't have sex with someone you shouldn't be having sex with.
Had the man who was killed NOT been having sex with someone who was married, he couldn't have been accused.
He did not deserve to die, and I hope the person that killed him and that horrible woman are both locked up for a long, long time.
But, had he kept his male member where it belonged, he would be alive today.
Men who have sex with women they don't know, such as one night stands, you're leaving yourself open to rape charges.
We've spent sooo long telling our daughters to not dress like a slut and telling poorly dressed rape victims with a sexual history that they deserved it.
Maybe it's time for men to realize that if they act like a slut, they could end up being accused of rape.
Best solution all around: save sex for committed relationships with people you've known a long time and trust, preferably your spouses.
Otherwise, you could find yourself on a witness stand being accused of rape, or, in a woman's case, accused of being a false crier or rape.
Perfect! Well said!

The only point I do disagree is the part of the husband being locked up, too. IMHO if the circumstances were that this particular woman put on an ACT of being terrified in front of her husband, he was probably trying to save her life (as far as he knew). I think he was terrified into doing the killing. He needs counseling more than incarceration after this incident. I wasn't there. Maybe there's a possibility it was cold blooded on the other hand, then imprison him.
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#51
May 10, 2008
 
elchuco64 wrote:
<quoted text>And what would you say to all those men who have spent YEARS of their lives hell there who lives in some if not most cases have spent1/4 if not more in prison. What would you tell them once they got exonerated after all these years and the bitch lived a happy normal life. Whayt words would you tell the poor bastard that would make it all right for these women and your so called SHIELD.
Let's not forget that while an innocent man who was convicted of a false rape charge spends his time in prison, he will certainly be raped on several occasions. Does one brutal rape take priority over another based on gender? In the case of the innocent man being raped in prison, it is without question the fault of the phony accuser who put him there. What should happen then?
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May 11, 2008
 
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Let's not forget that while an innocent man who was convicted of a false rape charge spends his time in prison, he will certainly be raped on several occasions. Does one brutal rape take priority over another based on gender? In the case of the innocent man being raped in prison, it is without question the fault of the phony accuser who put him there. What should happen then?
You are correct. Men, and not just men who are incarcerated, can become victims of rape. Some men have. Not all men who were/are raped are gay or effimate. It all depends on who the rapist wants to violate. One reason why many male rape victims do not come forward are similar to those female victims in the past gave for not reporting what they went through. http://www.ncvc.org/ncvc/main.aspx...
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May 11, 2008
 
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Let's not forget that while an innocent man who was convicted of a false rape charge spends his time in prison, he will certainly be raped on several occasions. Does one brutal rape take priority over another based on gender? In the case of the innocent man being raped in prison, it is without question the fault of the phony accuser who put him there. What should happen then?
Most people seem to be preoccupied with the notion that only females can be victims of this crime,as well as other crimes. I beilieve most people, I feel, would believe the man asked for it, just as people thought all women did before this crime was researched. Feminists have long ignored male victims. Many of them still subscribe to what Marilyn French said; "All men are rapists and that's all they are".
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May 11, 2008
 
The problem is the police do not believe men can be victims and lesbians can become same sex victims.
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#61
May 11, 2008
 
What do any prosecutors or jury members who convcited the innocent man have to say after discovering the man they prosecuted and convicted was/is innocent all along? Probably nothing or the old excuse, "we acted on what evidence was available to us". Not meaning to be off topic but, just as false accusations of rape are made, so to are false accusations of assault. There is no excuse for lack of dilligence in seeking and collecting ALL evidence,or noting the lack thereof,when it comes to accusations of serious crime(s). Wile investigators are looking for evidence that may prove the accused is guilty, they should also seek and collect ALL evidence that proves the innocence of the accused.
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#62
May 11, 2008
 
Sorry for so many post but, I wanted to emphasize some of my points
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